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by **dabattousai** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:42 pm

I was wondering, in order of the Surpreme TransFormers, where does Beast Machine's Surpreme Cheetor stand with the following TransFormers?

G1 Fortress Maximus
G1 Skorponok
Armada Unicron
Cybertron Primus
Surpreme Starscream

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:00 pm

He is bigger than any of those.
Just not as impressive.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:15 pm

mmmm, not quite, judging by this picture, he is taller than G1 Skorponok, but shorter than Fortress Maximus.

He is slightly taller than Unicron.

here have a look:

Thank you Seibs for a magnificent comparison pic.

News Credits: 20 · by **Chosen** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:18 pm

DISCHARGE wrote:He is bigger than any of those.
Just not as impressive.

You're a lunatic! Cheetor's not larger than Fort Max, no TF figure is. Maybe if you give Brave Max a pair of lifts.

Cheetor's only about seventeen inches tall in robot mode. And of course, as Hasbro used to harp about so much, he's "the size of a housecat" in beast mode.

And yeah, pics speak a thousand words and all that...

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:26 pm

Chosen wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:He is bigger than any of those.
Just not as impressive.

You're a lunatic! Cheetor's not larger than Fort Max, no TF figure is. Maybe if you give Brave Max a pair of lifts.

Cheetor's only about seventeen inches tall in robot mode. And of course, as Hasbro used to harp about so much, he's "the size of a housecat" in beast mode.

And yeah, pics speak a thousand words and all that...

Dude chill, sorry. I don't have a fort max, I do have the cheetor though and know it's pretty big. I don't appreciate being called a lunatic, crackhead.

by **dabattousai** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:32 pm

Didn't know Seibertron had a picture, thank you for sharing. So I guess there is never gonna be a TransFormer to match the size of Fort Max.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:34 pm

DISCHARGE wrote:
Chosen wrote:
DISCHARGE wrote:He is bigger than any of those.
Just not as impressive.

You're a lunatic! Cheetor's not larger than Fort Max, no TF figure is. Maybe if you give Brave Max a pair of lifts.

Cheetor's only about seventeen inches tall in robot mode. And of course, as Hasbro used to harp about so much, he's "the size of a housecat" in beast mode.

And yeah, pics speak a thousand words and all that...

Dude chill, sorry. I don't have a fort max, I do have the cheetor though and know it's pretty big. I don't appreciate being called a lunatic, crackhead.

from the context, he didnt mean it derogatorily, and theres no need for name calling on either end.

cheetor is huge all right, beast mode is decent, but as a bt, and generaly speaking as a toy, hes lame.

youd think with the size and detail they were going for, they could have at least sculpted is heads right

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:39 pm

dabattousai wrote:Didn't know Seibertron had a picture, thank you for sharing. So I guess there is never gonna be a TransFormer to match the size of Fort Max.

Highly unlikely. The shear size of Fortress Maximus, would put a toy that size in the $69.99 price range. It would be a very expensive piece of plastic.

Hasbro is unlikely to produce a toy in that size.

But it would be so awesome.

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:00 am

maybe one day, hasbro will rise to occaison and produce a fort max beating figure

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:12 am

How tall are the MP's compared to Fort Max? I don't own a Fort Max, probably never will, so cannot compare. The only figure there I own is Unicron.

News Credits: 12 · by **Crumplezone** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:58 am

Leonardo wrote:How tall are the MP's compared to Fort Max? I don't own a Fort Max, probably never will, so cannot compare. The only figure there I own is Unicron.

Star convoy is as tall as MP Prime so the above picture should be all you need.

PS. Star Convoy (in case you've never seen one) is the front figure.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:28 am

Crumplezone wrote:
Leonardo wrote:How tall are the MP's compared to Fort Max? I don't own a Fort Max, probably never will, so cannot compare. The only figure there I own is Unicron.

Star convoy is as tall as MP Prime so the above picture should be all you need.

PS. Star Convoy (in case you've never seen one) is the front figure.

Ah, yes, I see. Thank you!

by **nolga supreme** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:38 am

What was the point of such of huge Cheetor? I thing it would be hard to play with him and say rattrap at the same time.

News Credits: 5 · by **physucks** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:55 am

Would anyone be willing to part with their Supreme Cheetor? I'm looking to get all the big guys. I need the G1's and the Beast Wars. PM if you have one.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:29 am

Overcracker wrote:
dabattousai wrote:Didn't know Seibertron had a picture, thank you for sharing. So I guess there is never gonna be a TransFormer to match the size of Fort Max.

Highly unlikely. The shear size of Fortress Maximus, would put a toy that size in the $69.99 price range. It would be a very expensive piece of plastic.

Hasbro is unlikely to produce a toy in that size.

But it would be so awesome.

What about Ultimate Movie Bumble Bee? I don't remember off of the top of my head how big he's going to be, but I thought it was close to Fort Max...

News Credits: 12 · by **Crumplezone** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:33 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
dabattousai wrote:Didn't know Seibertron had a picture, thank you for sharing. So I guess there is never gonna be a TransFormer to match the size of Fort Max.

Highly unlikely. The shear size of Fortress Maximus, would put a toy that size in the $69.99 price range. It would be a very expensive piece of plastic.

Hasbro is unlikely to produce a toy in that size.

But it would be so awesome.

What about Ultimate Movie Bumble Bee? I don't remember off of the top of my head how big he's going to be, but I thought it was close to Fort Max...

I thought Ultimate Movie Bumblebee was reported to be about 14-16 inches tall this would put him about Unicron to Supreme Cheetor size.

I don't think there will ever be a Transformer the size of Fort-Max as the US toy laws have drop tests that figures Fort-Maxs size 22" tall would never (or have great difficulty to) pass.

News Credits: 20 · by **Chosen** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:21 pm

Immortal Starscream wrote:from the context, he didnt mean it derogatorily

No, he certainly did not. I'll cut him some slack this time, because I haven't posted enough these days for newer members like him to take the hint, and because... damn it, I don't know where I put my dime bag.

I don't see the drop test being the factor to keep a Fort Max toy away, because Hasbro could likely design a mold that size that would pass. I think the more important factors are the expense of designing such a mold, the cost for the amount of plastic to manufacture such a toy, and hell, the inevitable failure of such atoy. Hasbro has had plenty of experience in seeing Supreme toys fail, though I think they got the formula down with Primus, and an even larger toy would crash and burn even worse than that.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:03 am

Apologies for my ignorance but what's a drop test?

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:21 am

it seems they drop it from various heights to see how safe it is...if it say falls from a height onto a child's head

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:28 am

What do you suppose they drop it on to? A child? A crash dummy? A crash mat?

Wouldn't that break the toy?

Like Exulted Unicron on Facebook · by **Exulted Unicron** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:45 am

they use weighted models and simply molded toys and test them on dummies.

Its to prove how safe it is when it hits the floor and if it falls, will it pepper the child in deadly shards of plastic or just crack?

they aslo test what happens if it cracks a child in the skull...

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:00 am

Exulted Unicron wrote:they use weighted models and simply molded toys and test them on dummies.

Its to prove how safe it is when it hits the floor and if it falls, will it pepper the child in deadly shards of plastic or just crack?

they aslo test what happens if it cracks a child in the skull...

In that case. I vote that Hasbro try out their new cement filled Fort Max version.