The Energon Pub

[Danish-Liokaiser]

Lets take a flashback on The Headmasters and then The Brainmasters.

What did they have for there Nebulons and Brainmasters?

Seats! Driver seats! You could put the figures inside the transtectors in alt mode! More realistic!

Why didnt they think about that when they made the Powermasters?

[megatroptimus]

Same problem with Targetmasters. Except that Powermasters being ENGINES, they have to be in engine mode when the main body is in alternate mode. You wouldn't want your engine sitting around doing nothing.

[Danish-Liokaiser]

But then explain why these engines transform into nebulons? =P ... or wait ... you are right ahm ... ^^

[Tammuz]

Ginrai, Mega, & Giga all had seats when thier respective partners are transformed to battle stations.

[Danish-Liokaiser]

Ginrai, Mega, & Giga all had seats when thier respective partners are transformed to battle stations.

In a way yes, but now i mean for the alt mode. I know that Giga and Mega has alt seats.

[Emperor Primacron the 1st]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

[Zombie Starscream]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

[--B--]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

Because the fuel was tainted and they needed the Nebulons to eat a lot of food and give the TF's energy, silly!

Oh, and because it is much more fuel effient for a giant robot to leech energy from a small human sized alien then from, you know, that planets sun, or from wind power, or from any such thing.

[superwilson]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

Powermasters are meant to power up the robot not being the engine. All the powermasters have auto-heal abilities in Masterforce series. It took all the Autobot pretenders and headmasters jr to be on par with Darkwing and Dreadwind only. The only non-powermaster that is strong is Fort Max, Black Zarak and Six Shot.

My Masterforce collection uptodate.

[Leonardo]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

As a child I thought it was weird, also.

[Bonger]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

As a child I thought it was weird, also.

I always assumed it was just a better, smarter engine.

[YouFearGalvatron]

Lets take a flashback on The Headmasters and then The Brainmasters.

What did they have for there Nebulons and Brainmasters?

Seats! Driver seats! You could put the figures inside the transtectors in alt mode! More realistic!

Why didnt they think about that when they made the Powermasters?

"God on!"

[Danish-Liokaiser]

Lets take a flashback on The Headmasters and then The Brainmasters.

What did they have for there Nebulons and Brainmasters?

Seats! Driver seats! You could put the figures inside the transtectors in alt mode! More realistic!

Why didnt they think about that when they made the Powermasters?

"God on!"

I know that But you saw Ginrai drive inside The cab allot of times didnt you?

[Zeedust]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

As a child I thought it was weird, also.

The Targetmasters I can excuse... Presumably, Hot Rod still has his old gun somewhere, but Firebolt is more useful, plus your sidearm is also your sidekick.

The Headmasters, on the other hand, are the worst offenders. "You know how you said I'd lose my head if it wasn't attached? Well..."

[Nemesis Cyberplex]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

I believe the idea behind all of the "master" TFs, in the western world anyway, was to have an additional partner that would provide support from the inside...kinda similar to how in Star Wars all the starfighters have their own on-board mechanic droid, such as R2-D2. I believe they were technically meant to be sitting inside the robot somewhere tweaking his mechanical systems on the fly for maximum output....and to give a toy an added bonus mini robot to make kids think they were getting 2 transformers for the price of 1.

In Japan, though, I'm sure they were just using it to try to make Transformers fall in line with all of the other giant robot mecha trends where they focused more on non-sentient robots with overly-emotional pilots, such as Gundam or Go Lion(or whatever the hell Voltron is called over there).

[YouFearGalvatron]

I found it ironic that the powermasters needed the engines to becomes ROBOTS.

I find it ironic that the Nebulons replaced parts that the Transformers already HAD. Why do you need to replace your engine when you got a good working one already?

I believe the idea behind all of the "master" TFs, in the western world anyway, was to have an additional partner that would provide support from the inside...kinda similar to how in Star Wars all the starfighters have their own on-board mechanic droid, such as R2-D2. I believe they were technically meant to be sitting inside the robot somewhere tweaking his mechanical systems on the fly for maximum output....and to give a toy an added bonus mini robot to make kids think they were getting 2 transformers for the price of 1.

In Japan, though, I'm sure they were just using it to try to make Transformers fall in line with all of the other giant robot mecha trends where they focused more on non-sentient robots with overly-emotional pilots, such as Gundam or Go Lion(or whatever the hell Voltron is called over there).

Exactly.

I personally always have had a fondness for Headmasters. Godmasters are very cool as well. But when comparing TF to Gundam, Macross, etc., the thing I love the most is the concept of LIVING machines. Not lame-@ss androids that are human-sized, but giant mecha that think for themselves, and act accordingly.

Even as a child in the early 80s, this concept was not lost on me. It was partly why I prefered TFs to Voltron, Robotech, etc.

Not to say those did not have their cool moments...they did. But the TFs were LIVING F***ING MACHINES! Such a cool concept.

[Tigertrack]

I always assumed it was just a better, smarter engine.

Chevy needs to allow HASBRO to produce 'HEMI'-masters!