The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · by **roll out** » Fri May 01, 2009 12:06 am

I am just wondering where the heck is devs head on mixmaster and how is a small robot like that gonna form that enourmous head?

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Sat May 02, 2009 12:52 am

the head is formed by the rear of his cement mixer. And cement mixers can be pretty big so I'm sure there's a model big enough.

by **Deadpool's Lame Joke** » Sat May 02, 2009 1:48 am

To add on to what the dude above me said, his face looks to be mainly from Demolisher (from the redish color). And it kinda looks to me like Mixmaster's parts are more of a neck, rather than the whole head.

News Credits: 1 · by **roll out** » Sat May 02, 2009 11:20 am

Im glad that devastator is gonna fight th twins though its gonna be a good scene. I hope we see the cmbination sequence too.

by **Lastjustice** » Sun May 03, 2009 7:14 pm

It be awesome if Michael bell were voice one of them hehe.

" transform Phase 1..... Transform phase 2."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9uyk_jJ6Ns

Can only hope anyways.

And I dont like Mudflap's odds being in the third movie haha. I'd be truly surrpised if he escapes form that, as I picture they re going slag a few bots to show how deadly devastator is. That being said I cant help but feel a bit sorry for him, but may be he ll turn out be annoying enough I will be cheering for him get ground up by the end of the movie haha.

by **Rial Vestro** » Mon May 04, 2009 8:38 pm

First of all, based on the toy design...

Mixmaster is Devistator's dead. It looks like there are just some pannels in the cement mixer that open up to show the face.

Scavenger forms the main body and part of the left arm. (shoulder/ upper arm area) And I'm not sure why there are so many sources on the internet calling this guy Demolisher when it clearly says Scavenger on the side of his toy. I've allso seen a few sources refer to him as Rampage. Probly some confusion there because of the scene in the preview where he's seen "rampageing" through a city.

Hightower forms the rest of the left arm.

Scrapper forms the right arm.

Long Haul who looks like Energon Demolisher in vehicle mode forms the right leg.

And Rampage forms the left leg.

What's more confusing and I'm guessing this is part of the faulse information campaing because it's too obviously fake, according to an offical cast list I found on Transformers web site there are actully 7 Constructicons not 6 but the toy images abouve are all the Constructicons and there's no 7th member. The 7th is appearently Overload if the names linked with thoughs images are correct. Allso it show's Wheelie as a Decepticon and I highly doubt that Wheelie will be in the movie at all least of all as a Decepticon. The finnal message of "this is fake" a Decepticon called "The Doctor". Anyway here's the link.

http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/movi ... 2A25994EAF

I don't use toys to prove that a character will be in the movie because of a multitude of non-show characters in the toy lines but I could use them to prove a character won't be in the movie. How offten does hasbro fail to make a toy for a character especially one who is part of a Combiner team. If there was a 7th Constructicon there'd be a toy of him but there isn't. And if there wasn't going to be a toy of the 7th member they wouldn't even bother makeing the other six. How would they make Devistator with a missing member of the team?

Out of the names on that so called offical cast list here are the ones I think are fake.

Autobots

Jetfire

Decepticons

Sideways
The Doctor
Wheelie
Demolisher
Overload

Arcee and Soundwave I'm going to say maybe fake because both characters were planed to be used in the first movie but it never happened and I think the wrighters still want to add them in somewhere in the continuity but there hasn't been enough evidence to suport either of them actully makeing an appearance. (In other words appearing in any of the trailers, I doubt Bay would waist the movie's budget to produce fake footage for the trailers so any characters seen in the trailers are definatly confirmed.)

by **Jonny8000** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:05 pm

well there's a seventh constructicon, Overload. It might be that he makes up the back as well as some of the neck as well???

by **grimmjow88** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:20 pm

yeah devastators head is weird right now...its red in the trailers but mixmaster is comletely grey so idk if theyre hiding the complete set up or wat. as for the cast list jetfire sideways arcee and wheelie are definitely in the film...as for the rest im not sure cuz ur right about scavenger even though its the exact toy as demolishor its a different name so idk wats happening with that and as fore the 7th constructicon i guess we're gonna have to wait and see. :-?

by **Rial Vestro** » Mon May 04, 2009 11:18 pm

Where are you seeing red in Devistator's head on the trailer? I don't see any red at all, it just looks exactly like the toy version except for the added glowing effects in the eyes and mouth.

by **kjeevah** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:38 pm

are you serious rial??

demolishor's packaging says that his name is demolishor. the scvngr on his side is just a g1 reference. having writing on the side does not mean that is the name. barricade is called barricade, not 'to punish and enslave'.

jetfire's packaging says that his name is jetfire. every reference to him, from news articles to colouring book, calls him jetfire.

wheelie's packaging calls him wheelie, and he contains a rotating symbol gimmick, explaining that he starts off as a decepticon, then switches sides. and he IS in the movie, presumably he changes sides after he is caught trying to open the safe, which you can clearly see in the first trailer. you also see him being caught by mikaela in the colouring in book.

by **Prime Riblet** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:09 am

kjeevah wrote:are you serious rial??

demolishor's packaging says that his name is demolishor. the scvngr on his side is just a g1 reference. having writing on the side does not mean that is the name. barricade is called barricade, not 'to punish and enslave'.

jetfire's packaging says that his name is jetfire. every reference to him, from news articles to colouring book, calls him jetfire.

wheelie's packaging calls him wheelie, and he contains a rotating symbol gimmick, explaining that he starts off as a decepticon, then switches sides. and he IS in the movie, presumably he changes sides after he is caught trying to open the safe, which you can clearly see in the first trailer. you also see him being caught by mikaela in the colouring in book.

I think he actually is serious. That scares me.

News Credits: 3 · by **Autobot Firestorm** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:33 am

Rial Vestro wrote:Where are you seeing red in Devistator's head on the trailer? I don't see any red at all, it just looks exactly like the toy version except for the added glowing effects in the eyes and mouth.

Frame 3103 - Devistator's head is as red as a baboon's ---.

by **Rial Vestro** » Wed May 06, 2009 4:48 pm

kjeevah wrote:are you serious rial??

demolishor's packaging says that his name is demolishor. the scvngr on his side is just a g1 reference. having writing on the side does not mean that is the name. barricade is called barricade, not 'to punish and enslave'.

jetfire's packaging says that his name is jetfire. every reference to him, from news articles to colouring book, calls him jetfire.

wheelie's packaging calls him wheelie, and he contains a rotating symbol gimmick, explaining that he starts off as a decepticon, then switches sides. and he IS in the movie, presumably he changes sides after he is caught trying to open the safe, which you can clearly see in the first trailer. you also see him being caught by mikaela in the colouring in book.

1. Even if that character is Demolisher that's still proof the so called "Offical" cast list is fake because Demolisher is not even listed as one of the Constructicons, he's listed as a seperate character.

2. Not only does it say Scrapper on the side of the toy but the image file name on the Transformers web site allso credits him as scrapper.

3. To pretect and inslave is not even a name, Scrapper is. Bonecrusher is allso a name and in the first movie he even had that name printed on his vehicle mode. In fact ALOT of Transformers characters have had their names printed on their toys. Nearly all the Transmetal Beast Wars figures had their names on them. I know my Optimus Primal, Megatron, and Cheetor all have their names on their toys.

4. Hasbro has a habbit of misslabeling figures so I wouldn't dount it if he was packaged as Demolisher but that doesn't mean he IS Demolisher. I haven't even seen the toy packageing and I don't know how anyone even has his toy (some people have reviewed him on YouTube) but the figure has not even been offically reliced yet. If it's not a misslabe then it could simply be they renamed him at the last min.

5. For something that can be "clearly seen" in the first trailer I have never seen whatever the hell it is you're talking about.

And finally... SCREEN SHOT!

Like I said before there are added glowing effects the toy doesn't have but the head itself is not red. He looks like he has Christmas lights in his head with the red and green but that's the glowing effect not his head. The head itself is just simple unpainted metal. In other words grey/silver and formed by the back end of the cement mixer.

by **TylerDante69** » Wed May 06, 2009 6:11 pm

Man I really wish the Devastator toy will tower over the Leader Class figures

Or it will be a waste of even making this toy.

And is it confirmed that the Constructicons does not transform into individual robots and that they just merge into one big one instead???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSxLKkRP ... annel_page

by **Jonny8000** » Wed May 06, 2009 6:43 pm

TylerDante69 wrote:Man I really wish the Devastator toy will tower over the Leader Class figures

Or it will be a waste of even making this toy.

And is it confirmed that the Constructicons does not transform into individual robots and that they just merge into one big one instead???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSxLKkRP ... annel_page

If you mean that they don't have individual transformations, then no it's not true because you see 4 single transformed constructicons in the previews

by **Rial Vestro** » Thu May 07, 2009 3:50 am

Jonny8000 wrote:
TylerDante69 wrote:Man I really wish the Devastator toy will tower over the Leader Class figures

Or it will be a waste of even making this toy.

And is it confirmed that the Constructicons does not transform into individual robots and that they just merge into one big one instead???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSxLKkRP ... annel_page

If you mean that they don't have individual transformations, then no it's not true because you see 4 single transformed constructicons in the previews

4? I only know of 1, the red guy abouve no one can seem to agree what his name is.

The designs are so awfull can't tell what anyone transforms into so I've probly seen the other 4 and just not realized they were construction vehicles. (I didn't even know the red guy was a construction vehicle when I first saw his robot mode in the trailer till I saw the toy version and I haven't seen any of the other toys in robot mode.)

News Credits: 1 · by **karellan** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:10 pm

Rial, in that pic of Devastator you posted, his head looks pretty dang red to me. Greyish with red bits on it, yeah, but there's still red.

by **Deviand** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:42 pm

They can't detail the head correctly that's why it's grey. Seems nobody remembers devastator from the first flick, uhm i mean brawl, uh devestator wich was it?

by **Prime Riblet** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:28 pm

Rial Vestro wrote:
Jonny8000 wrote:
TylerDante69 wrote:Man I really wish the Devastator toy will tower over the Leader Class figures

Or it will be a waste of even making this toy.

And is it confirmed that the Constructicons does not transform into individual robots and that they just merge into one big one instead???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSxLKkRP ... annel_page

If you mean that they don't have individual transformations, then no it's not true because you see 4 single transformed constructicons in the previews

4? I only know of 1, the red guy abouve no one can seem to agree what his name is.

The designs are so awfull can't tell what anyone transforms into so I've probly seen the other 4 and just not realized they were construction vehicles. (I didn't even know the red guy was a construction vehicle when I first saw his robot mode in the trailer till I saw the toy version and I haven't seen any of the other toys in robot mode.)

There will be one line of Constucticons that DO NOT transform into their individual alt mode yet WILL combine to form Devastator. There will also be a separate line of Constructicons that WILL transform into their individual alt modes, but they WILL NOT combine to form Devastator.

As far as the red robot goes, he is Demolisher. Scavenger is painted on the sides as a reference to the proper name of the original figure, which is not possible to use at this time.

by **Rial Vestro** » Thu May 07, 2009 5:38 pm

karellan wrote:Rial, in that pic of Devastator you posted, his head looks pretty dang red to me. Greyish with red bits on it, yeah, but there's still red.

The red bits are glowing though. It's not actully a physical part of the head itself. It's just an added glow effect. If you want to say the head is red you could allso say it's green even though it isn't. The green is allso a glowing effect.

The head itself is made of metal, it's not made of glowing effects. And non of the metal is painted red.

Saying the head is red because of thoughs little glowing bits is like saying my head is blue because I have blue eyes. They may be attached to the head but the color of one part does not make up the color of the entire head. If I had a blue head that would mean I was suffercating.

Devistator's head is not red.

And why can't they use the name Scavenger? Last I checked Hasbro still held the Trade Mark on that name. There is a Scavenger in the Unicron Trilligy so they have used it recently.