The Energon Pub

[Silverado_Prime]

This movie really gives a lot of credit to U.S. Military technology (Along with a lot of exaggeration). With all the space age alien power, we fragile humans can really hold our ground. I like how they threw in that "rail gun" too. It makes me wonder...the humans may have been able to defend themselves against the Decepticons alone.

[roblinb]

As someone who used to be in the U.S. military (I still work for them as a civilian) I always thought that Bay is a hard core supporter of the men and women in uniform. While that's very cool, I also agree with the original poster that he (Bay) greatly exaggerates the power of the U.S. military. Rail guns do exist, but the way it one-shotted the most bad ass Transformer was pretty lame. If you recall from the cartoon series Autobot laser fire just bounced off Devastator... but in the movie a single shot from a human weapon is all it takes. Not only that, but they made Skids and Mudflap look good by doing so!

[Lastjustice]

As someone who used to be in the U.S. military (I still work for them as a civilian) I always thought that Bay is a hard core supporter of the men and women in uniform. While that's very cool, I also agree with the original poster that he (Bay) greatly exaggerates the power of the U.S. military. Rail guns do exist, but the way it one-shotted the most bad ass Transformer was pretty lame. If you recall from the cartoon series Autobot laser fire just bounced off Devastator... but in the movie a single shot from a human weapon is all it takes. Not only that, but they made Skids and Mudflap look good by doing so!

Devastator been taken down in one hit a couple times in G1. In his first appearance Hound made a hologram of a bigger bot, and confused and frightened devastator, which Prime shot him once and they fell apart. Broadside flew into the air in jet mode, then turned into an aircraftcarrier and crushed devastator. In same episode Perceptor knocked them apart in a single blast. (I suppose he knew where him then like computron does against abominus at one point.)

Plenty of combiners been taken down in short order, as Sky lynx has manhandled predaking. Mensor one hit bruticus from behind. Galvatron blasted superion and caused him to disasemble.

I was curious how devastator was stopped in the movie before I saw it. I found him too big and clumsy really be all that effective, which isnt actually bad take on him since hes been shown be one of the slowest dumbest combiners in G1. (only one dumber was Abominus) While on some lvl I thought Mudflap should been toast, but him surviving redeemed him as a character in my eyes. The twins likely didnt do much damage, but the fact they didnt die horribly like I expected proved they werent total screw ups.

While Id prefer they didnt get as Air strike bombardment happy near end, but it is realistic that humans that are well prepared can put up a heck of a fight against transformers.(and would unlike the autobot city fight in the 86 film, humans were no where in sight despite the battle spanning atleast a day or 2.) Not saying they d win as the Fallen proved be too much for them.

I felt the first movie did a good job of showing how decepticons could feasibly knock us on out butts without the autobots help, as without global comunications we d be screwed. They used their stealth to pick us apart, which had the autobots never gotten involved, we wouldnt have lasted. While I dont think the cons could openly attack and just hang out visibly and expect survive, but if they hit and run while picking key targets, they could mess up the world badly as the first movie showed. The idea of a nearly invisible weapon system that can just sneak up and unleash hell is a scray thought as Id hate been at the base when Blackout rolled up heh. (which how the General managed survive to be in the second movie I dont know since they said no survivors before.)

[Obiprime]

Prime was not willing to give the humans the technology to make better weapons because he knew humans would do more harm than good. The best part in regard to human technology is on the pyramid when he waves the wand and the tanks and gear just fall like toys. That guy had power.

[amberiya]

What availabilities does the military have for experienced guitar players? I have been playing guitar for 14 years and am looking to join one of the services as a guitar musician. Just wondering what would be the best service to look into and what would be the process. Any advice from military musicians is APPRECIATED!
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[T-Macksimus]

What availabilities does the military have for experienced guitar players? I have been playing guitar for 14 years and am looking to join one of the services as a guitar musician. Just wondering what would be the best service to look into and what would be the process. Any advice from military musicians is APPRECIATED!

I'm not in the armed forces but I have several family members who are or have served previously. I can say from first hand experience that the Air Force has (or did, not sure if they still do) an awsome traveling band. If I remember correctly they work in conjunction with the recruiting and youth education department. I have an older brother who is still an Air Force reservist and who used to travel with the band during his active Air Force enlistment. He started in High-school doing sound and lighting and set-up for the Drama Dept. and found a niche in the Air Force where he could serve AND pursue his interest as a sound tech.
Talk to a recruiter at one of the local outposts and run it by them. Doesn't have to be Air Force, I'm sure all branches (I know Navy does too) have some kind of band.

And Lastjustice, if I remember right, that single shot by Prime hit G1 Devs in the crotch.(please correct me if I'm wrong) I think I'd drop with 1 shot if someone shot ME in the ba**s! So yeah, I'm with you on the 'one shot can do it' list.