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News Credits: 1 · Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:11 pm

So, who do you think would win in a fight? Iron Man or Darth Vader? I think that Iron Man would eventually be able to kill Vader by shooting enough missiles at Vader so he can't block them all with the Force/his lightsabre. Of course, that would be assuming he would be able to avoid Vader Force choking him or using the Force to destroy his armour (and, of course, avoid his lightsabre). I doubt that Vader would be able to Force choke Iron Man if he were constantly flying at high speeds in an erratic enough flight pattern.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:20 pm

You underestimate the power of the Force. For starters, Vader's suit is actually resilient to Lightsabers, his gloves are unaffected by blaster fire, and because of his Jedi training, he can sense danger before it occurs. Also, he tends to use the Force to lift anything that isn't nailed down to use as shields or, more often, weapons. Also, the range of Vader's Force powers is pretty far. he was able to Force Choke Admiral Ozzel from across the Executor, and that ship is just over 10 miles long.

I think it could go either way, but I really have to give it to the guy with Lightsaber, blaster-proof suit and the ability to strangle a man from the other side of town.

Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:05 pm

Darth vader he has the force and his stormtrooper army also the emeperor by his side.

Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:59 pm

iron man would just down load a virus in vaders armor and
shut down the life support system of the armor. I also have a question about vaders suit,if it was supost to be light saber proof then how did luke cut his arm off in return of the jedi,and where can i read up on vaders powers

News Credits: 2 · Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:07 pm

victoryconvoy wrote:iron man would just down load a virus in vaders armor and
shut down the life support system of the armor.

Vader's suit doesn't work that way. Even if it WAS computerized enough to be vulnerable to cyber warfare, it's not wi-fi, so Tony would have to upload the virus manually...meaning he'd have to get his hands on Vader. Meaning he's in Lightsaber range.

victoryconvoy wrote:I also have a question about vaders suit,if it was supost to be light saber proof then how did luke cut his arm off in return of the jedi

Notice how hard Luke was hitting him in ROTJ. There's a big difference between some kid who isn't even a Jedi barely keeping up with you in Lightsaber combat, and a jedi Knight, giving into his rage, beating on you with everything he's got and then some.

victoryconvoy wrote:and where can i read up in vaders powers

Here you go. Both Anakin and Darth Vader.

Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:18 pm

thanks bro im going to read up tonight

News Credits: 1 · Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:58 am

Shadowman wrote:You underestimate the power of the Force. For starters, Vader's suit is actually resilient to Lightsabers, his gloves are unaffected by blaster fire, and because of his Jedi training, he can sense danger before it occurs. Also, he tends to use the Force to lift anything that isn't nailed down to
use as shields or, more often, weapons

The idea was that Iron Man would unload tons of missiles at Vader from multiple directions. Even with his Force powers, Vader would probably have trouble blocking that many at once, and I don't think direct hits from multiple missiles would at least damage his suit and injure him, if not kill him. It's not like his suit is indestructible.

Shadowman wrote:Also, the range of Vader's Force powers is pretty far. he was able to Force Choke Admiral Ozzel from across the Executor, and that ship is just over 10 miles long.

I had thought of that, but Ozzel was standing still. Vader would probably not be able to Force choke anyone who was moving fast enough. Iron man can fly at supersonic speeds. Although flying that fast would make fighting Vader much harder, he still could probably fly fast enough so that Vader would be unable to use the Force on him.

News Credits: 2 · Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:19 pm

Optimus1138 wrote:The idea was that Iron Man would unload tons of missiles at Vader from multiple directions. Even with his Force powers, Vader would probably have trouble blocking that many at once

Or, alternatively, he wouldn't. It depends on how many missiles Tony can carry which, considering the size of his armor, can't be too many. Even so, Darth Malgus was shown surviving a grenade to the face and only being stunned for a moment, and he lacked Vader's armor and power. Vader can survive a couple of missiles, assuming he for some reason can't deflect all of them.

Optimus1138 wrote:and I don't think direct hits from multiple missiles would at least damage his suit and injure him, if not kill him. It's not like his suit is indestructible.

In one of the trailers for Force Unleashed 2, Starkiller is shown using this Force Power that completely incinerates a dozen or so Stormtroopers, and the surrounding forest. When the blast wave visibly hit Vader, he only sort of flinched.

Optimus1138 wrote:I had thought of that, but Ozzel was standing still. Vader would probably not be able to Force choke anyone who was moving fast enough. Iron man can fly at supersonic speeds. Although flying that fast would make fighting Vader much harder, he still could probably fly fast enough so that Vader would be unable to use the Force on him.

The problem is, if Vader can see Tony, he can use Grip on Tony. Vader only needs to see his victim in order to use Force Grip. The only way to dodge is to leave Vader's field of vision. Once you step back in, he has you now.

Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:21 pm

Seriously???????
Ironman?????

No, Ironman has no chance.
Think about what you're proposing.
Ironman is NOT agile.
Even if he flies away, Advanced Tie FTW!
Ironman's Tech is outdated compared to the starwars universe.
I say use the force to Crush Ironman's arc reactor and watch him slowly die.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:37 pm

As much as I love the womanizing billionaire, Iron Man has no chance against the Sith Lord.

None of Starks armors have any where near enough missiles to phase Vader. Force + supreme lightsaber skills render Iron Mans ranged weaponry close to useless. And without those he's just a brawler in a powered armor...

Stark relies purely on his tech (Extremis included), Vader is a magic laser sword wielding monster. He is way beyond Iron Man.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:03 pm

For reason which have already been mentioned, Vader wins this by a mile. Sorry Tony.

News Credits: 37 · Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:17 pm

Iron Man would definately win. Darth Vader is slow and can barely even use the force. All Iron man would have to do is shoot him once and he'd be dead.

News Credits: 2 · Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:59 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Iron Man would definately win. Darth Vader is slow and can barely even use the force. All Iron man would have to do is shoot him once and he'd be dead.

Yes, shoot Darth Vader, who can deflect laser blasts with his bare hands. That's smart.

Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:39 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Iron Man would definately win. Darth Vader is slow and can barely even use the force. All Iron man would have to do is shoot him once and he'd be dead.

Barely use the force my BUTT. It wouldn't take much to hold Ironman still. Darth is the freakin' chosen one. Anyway hold him suspended, crush the Arc reactor, make some popcorn, find a comfy chair and enjoy the show. Ironman may break the sound barrier but a tie advanced can go to light speed. And again Ironman is not agile, or nimble, or cant react quickly. Over confidence in his suit is his downfall against people stronger than him. List of examples: Hulk, Galactis, Spider-man*, ect.

*spider-man beat Ironman directly after the civil war after aunt may's death.

now throw in Darth its over. And what can Ironman throw at him? A missile? Use the force to detonate the warhead while it preps for launch. Repulsors??? Lightsaber reflect the repulsor then crush him. What else does Ironman have??? Go up and PUNCH HIM???????? Seriously???? You didn't think this through.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:07 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Iron Man would definately win. Darth Vader is slow and can barely even use the force. All Iron man would have to do is shoot him once and he'd be dead.

Yeah, well, we could go with this, or we could remember five of the six Star Wars movies worth of Anakin/Vader training/fighting action and remember that minus the tactical disadvantage of having the low ground and the stupid idea of trying to jump over Obi-Wan, Vader's the best there has ever been. Han Solo shot at Vader two/three times and Vader deflected the blasts with his hand, and future Star Wars laser tech must be implicitly better than Stark Enterprises' laser tech. Don't be so proud of the technological terrors Stark Ent. creates, they are insignificant compared to the power of the Force. He also has the 'highest concentration of midicolorians, blah blah blah, even more than Yoda blah blah blah.." and is pretty clearly capable of more than 'barely' being able to use the Force, but that's all that worthless plot stuff, and who cares about that, right?

*edgy, "evil" exploding smiley face icon*

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Shadowman wrote:Yes, shoot Darth Vader, who can deflect laser blasts with his bare hands. That's smart.

My favorite part of this thread is that Shadowman has been integrating Vader lines in all his replies except this one.
Got you Shadowman, just in case you thought your efforts were for naught. And it's not even that you frighten me with your sorcerer's ways.

Vader, ftw, btw.

News Credits: 7 · Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:04 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Iron Man would definately win. Darth Vader is slow and can barely even use the force.

Yeah, he woke up to find Padmé dead, and he barely used the Force to destroy everything around himself just by rage.

Vader could simply crush Ironman with the force into a trash cube.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:37 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:Iron Man would definitely win. Darth Vader is slow and can barely even use the force. All Iron man would have to do is shoot him once and he'd be dead.

Barely use the force? really?, barely, like the same way that Messi can barely kick a football? I think someone may need to have a long lie down in a nice dark room.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:03 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:barely, like the same way that Messi can barely kick a football?

I dunno, can he? I'm American, I can't get the reference.

Dagon wrote:My favorite part of this thread is that Shadowman has been integrating Vader lines in all his replies except this one.
Got you Shadowman, just in case you thought your efforts were for naught. And it's not even that you frighten me with your sorcerer's ways.

Vader, ftw, btw.

I'd put more in, but it has to be natural. Otherwise, it'd just feel forced.

I think that may have been a pun.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:17 pm

Don't just take my word for it, have a look on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnUr8lcqjo

News Credits: 2 · Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:36 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Don't just take my word for it, have a look on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnUr8lcqjo

As an American, all Soccer clips look identical to me. Yeah, I called it Soccer. What are you gonna do? Taxation without representation? Because you already tried that one!