The Energon Pub

by **Badassimus Prime** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:54 pm

The bot mode is very menecing. I like it the most out of all the movie toys revealed so far. Hopefully this will inspire Hasbro to give us a Generations/RTS Shockwave in the near future.

by **Joker'sRequiem** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:00 pm

T-Macksimus wrote: Energon Shockblast is still a better re imagining of Shockwave than this. I know this isn't so much Hasbro's doing as it is Bays, but still one would think that Bay would have learned his lesson by now. I'll wait for another 18 months for Hasbro to give us a proper Shockwave in the Generations line.

What lesson does he have to learn? That people still expect Classic/G1 designs in the movie-verse? If anything we should have learned by now that that isn't going to happen. They're unrealistic expectations. The movie aesthetic has always been entirely separate from anything remotely G1. A/E/C all benefit from a similar style, allowing them to more easily adapt an old design into an updated one. Blaming Bay for creating a design that fits his own aesthetic is, well, laughable. Of course Shockwave from the Bayverse isn't going to be an updated G1 design that still fits G1's own aesthetic. It retains his color scheme, his general head design, and homages his gun hand. No, he doesn't have a yellow eye. No, his hand isn't a gun. No, he doesn't turn into a gun. G1 Shockwave does. THIS isn't G1 Shockwave.

You'd think by now, with this being the third movie, people would've gotten the hint that anything that fits G1's design isn't going to be found in the Bayverse... :roll:

Back on topic: The alt-mode isn't anything spectacular, but I think it's the better of the three villainous Cybertronian alt-modes we've seen, save for maybe ROTF Voyager Megatron. Hopefully official images/different angles will give a better idea for how everything looks overall in vehicle mode.

I like the bot mode a lot. Better than anything I've seen from Megatron (save for, again, his ROTF Voyager). He looks like he has the size and fire power to go head to head with Prime (or Megatron). I hope height wise he lines up to be at least as tall a Prime or Megatron, if not slightly talller. Though given his considerable bulk I somehow doubt it. Overall, this is the best of the DOTM toys I've seen. Not that he's figure of the year material, but hopefully more images and in hand impressions do nothing but improve my feelings on him.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:03 pm

I like it. The 'ribs' are kind of ugly but it's got enough of the classic Shockwave elements to work. I don't mind if his eye is red, I think it looks better anyway. Sure two hands isn't right, but whatever, they got the big gun right anyway. He's been a tank-like vehicle the past few versions anyway. I'm actually most suprised that they got the colors right the first time around. That's pretty amazing for Bayverse. :lol:

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:03 pm

Well after seeing the robot mode my original statement still stands, it does look like shockwave but not a fan of the huge cannon and the skeletal look of him. Im sure my friend is going to buy him just because hes shockwave so ill wait til he has it so i can check it out. Right now i wouldnt buy him at full voyager price.

News Credits: 3 · by **Samsonator** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:05 pm

Bot mode looks pretty slick, guess this dashes any hope of a classics styled Shocky for the foreseeable future...

News Credits: 2 · by **ConBotFormer** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:09 pm

Okay people...you CAN see Shockwaves bot mode in these Picuters!!!!!! :BANG_HEAD:

LOOK!!

by **SJ21** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:21 pm

I think his bot mode looks cool. I expect that he will look great in the movie. I won't be buying this figure though. Not G1 enough for my collection.

by **WarGraver** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:28 pm

The tank mode is cool, but the robot modes is... kind of a hodgepodge. It has some features of a protoform design. Some features of his tankness. And some of a skeleton. And, oddly, a rock lord. But they don't blend into each other well. Nonetheless, this is a big improvement over the rest of the line.

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimus1138** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:39 pm

Warning: Short rant ahead

First Megatron, and now Shockwave. Once again, another potentially awesome DOTM figure that should have been a Leader Class is likely ruined by being too small. I had been looking forward to expanding my ranks of Leader Class Decepticons, especially to having a good Megatron big enough to face Leader Prime. The figure itself looks great in robot mode and the tank mode's not bad (although I was hoping that the gunship thing Sam and Carly had been seen riding would be Shockwave), but he's going to look ridiculous fighting Leader Prime. I guess if I'm going to be getting Megatron and/or Shockwave and want them to look at all reasonable fighting Optimus, I'll have to get Battle Blades Prime. Then, however, I would not have an in-scale Starscream (unless I got the Voyager Starscream, which would be horribly out of scale with the rest of my Movie collection, and which I don't even like much in the first place). I suppose I may get Shockwave at this scale, but he'll just seem way to small.

Don't get me wrong. I do think this toy looks good for what it is.

We can only hope that there will be Leader figures of Megatron and Shockwave, and that we just don't know about them yet.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:43 pm

*Thinking back to TFMovie I video game and WFC videogame*

This disappoints.

Not horrible, not awesome. Might get it if it's a voyager, but not if it's a leader. But then, I think the last leader-class TF I bought was Brawl, so I guess that's not saying much.

News Credits: 1 · by **T-Macksimus** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:44 pm

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News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:50 pm

He looks so freaking awesome!!! THAT is the first thing I get when this line comes out!

News Credits: 1 · by **ShardFenix** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:06 pm

T-Macksimus wrote:
Joker'sRequiem wrote:
T-Macksimus wrote: Energon Shockblast is still a better re imagining of Shockwave than this. I know this isn't so much Hasbro's doing as it is Bays, but still one would think that Bay would have learned his lesson by now. I'll wait for another 18 months for Hasbro to give us a proper Shockwave in the Generations line.

What lesson does he have to learn? That people still expect Classic/G1 designs in the movie-verse? If anything we should have learned by now that that isn't going to happen. They're unrealistic expectations. The movie aesthetic has always been entirely separate from anything remotely G1. A/E/C all benefit from a similar style, allowing them to more easily adapt an old design into an updated one. Blaming Bay for creating a design that fits his own aesthetic is, well, laughable. Of course Shockwave from the Bayverse isn't going to be an updated G1 design that still fits G1's own aesthetic. It retains his color scheme, his general head design, and homages his gun hand. No, he doesn't have a yellow eye. No, his hand isn't a gun. No, he doesn't turn into a gun. G1 Shockwave does. THIS isn't G1 Shockwave.

You'd think by now, with this being the third movie, people would've gotten the hint that anything that fits G1's design isn't going to be found in the Bayverse...

WHOA!! Dude, I was making a half-hearted comment AT BEST. I KNOW this isn't G1, I never expected it to be a full on G1 Shockwave. He's about as G1 as as any incarnation of Movie Megatron is but holy crap I don't need a full paragraph dressing down over the whole situation and neither does anyone else on the site. Next time, get some input from me about the spirit in which my comment was intended or ask me for a little clarification but don't ever treat me like I'm a freaking idiot or a child! I'm sorry I worded my previous comment in such a way that the intent was misconstrued. My thoughts on the whole situation with Bays creations aren't simply a "black & white" subject. I take for granted the fact that there might possibly be folks on here capable of understanding such a thing but obviously I was wrong and this point has been wondrously illustrated.

I think i get your point T. Im pretty sure no one expected this to look G1...we all knew it would look bayverse with bay aesthetics. And the point is a lot of people still just dont like the bay-verse look. Which is totally understandable. Im like 50/50 on it. Bludgeon and Terradive were both movie style and so was Deluxe Bludgeon. But Bay didnt have a hand in them and they came out looking pretty good being part of the bay-verse. The only figure I think Bay did exceptionally well is Blackout. I know some people love the bay-look. but yeah no one needed a whole paragraph explaining that a movie toy would clearly be based on Bay...so thanks for the ranting Joker

by **MINDVVIPE** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:23 pm

ShardFenix wrote: The only figure I think Bay did exceptionally well is Blackout.

Yea, even with the needless gimmick, its a great figure, maybe not the most poseable, but one of the coolest from the bayverse that was actually in the movie.

News Credits: 2 · by **sabrigami** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:29 pm

I don't think the design is too terrible really. At least I can tell it's Shockwave. The only thing that bothers me is that he looks kinda fat in the chest. I kinda like my shockwaves tall and lanky. I might get him though. have to see a review or in person first though. I'm just glad he looks like Shockwave

by **Joker'sRequiem** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:33 pm

T-Macksimus wrote:WHOA!! Dude, I was making a half-hearted comment AT BEST. I KNOW this isn't G1, I never expected it to be a full on G1 Shockwave. He's about as G1 as as any incarnation of Movie Megatron is but holy crap I don't need a full paragraph dressing down over the whole situation and neither does anyone else on the site.

Granted, a whole paragraph was a bit much. But complaining about his design with respect to G1 Shockwave, at this point in the film franchise, is a moot point. The movie-verse should be the last place you expect anything close to an accurate redesign of anything G1. So clearly some people on the site still need this pointed out...

T-Macksimus wrote:Next time, get some input from me about the spirit in which my comment was intended or ask me for a little clarification but don't ever treat me like I'm a freaking idiot or a child! I'm sorry I worded my previous comment in such a way that the intent was misconstrued.

Point taken. Apologies for taking what you intended to say the way I interpreted it.

T-Macksimus wrote:My thoughts on the whole situation with Bays creations aren't simply a "black & white" subject. I take for granted the fact that there might possibly be folks on here capable of understanding such a thing but obviously I was wrong and this point has been wondrously illustrated.

With all do respect, you shouldn't expect anyone to take what you say for anything more than what's written. Like I said previously, to complain that Bay hadn't learned his lesson with regards to a homage to G1 Shockwave, at this point, is too little, too late. Your feelings on his designs overall aside (I don't even like half his designs), all I took issue with was what I quoted.

There really isn't anything more to understand about that. Though I may be overestimating people here...

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:38 pm

Epic WIn. Gimme now or no cookies for you.

News Credits: 187 · by **GetRightRobot** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:45 pm

OK. So everyone who said I can't wait see his robot mode, you should have watched the rest of the video. And if you do, you will notice, his robot mode IS FREAKIN AWESOME!!! Finally. Finally. I said it in another discussion, movieverse fans are setting up for an I told you so, this may well be that moment. Finally.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:55 pm

He's purple!

The gun is a tad excessive (in bot mode, at least), though this is the first DotM figure that really grabs my attention. The Cybertronian mode actually looks like a proper mode, and not just a folded up robot.

News Credits: 1 · by **ShardFenix** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:00 pm

GetRightRobot wrote:OK. So everyone who said I can't wait see his robot mode, you should have watched the rest of the video. And if you do, you will notice, his robot mode IS FREAKIN AWESOME!!! Finally. Finally. I said it in another discussion, movieverse fans are setting up for an I told you so, this may well be that moment. Finally.

its not...no matter how awesome one figure may be, it cant possibly make up for the rest. Im also blatantly shocked there isnt some sort of obvious ugly mechtech weapon yet

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:07 pm

ShardFenix wrote:
GetRightRobot wrote:OK. So everyone who said I can't wait see his robot mode, you should have watched the rest of the video. And if you do, you will notice, his robot mode IS FREAKIN AWESOME!!! Finally. Finally. I said it in another discussion, movieverse fans are setting up for an I told you so, this may well be that moment. Finally.

its not...no matter how awesome one figure may be, it cant possibly make up for the rest. Im also blatantly shocked there isnt some sort of obvious ugly mechtech weapon yet

Awkward and obvious like...oh..I don't know...Targetmasters?

by **alanburk** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:46 pm

He looks like Skeletor.

by **Evil_the_Nub** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:51 pm

He's a little on the brawny side, but I really like it. I just hope that giant cannon didn't cost him an elbow like RotF leader Megatron.

by **prowl123** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:56 pm

awesomesauce awesomesauce awesomesauce awesomesauce awesomesauce!!! A buy on sight.

by **MGrotusque** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:01 pm

Good thing i still have a minty G1 Shockwave in the collection. No need to buy this one.

It's a somewhat decent iteration of Shockwave but it doesn't really suit the character to me. Too bulky. It's better than i had expected though, to be honest.