The Energon Pub

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:15 pm

Looks like I'm in the minority, but I really dig this set!

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:51 pm

Pepsi Rodimus

He looks OK, but I would have liked it better if the Elite Guard Autobot logo was inside the bird logo on his chest, like on the G1 toy.

News Credits: 5 · by **emeraldbeacon** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:40 pm

El Duque wrote:Looks like I'm in the minority, but I really dig this set!

Honestly, this is the only one I'm *not* seeing. It's like they just decided to throw colors at this toy and see what stuck... there's no rhyme or reason to it, no attempt to make a cohesive design. At least the original Thunderclash had some good aesthetics to the layout... this guy's all over the map.

Kup, I would have liked to see less sparkly glowy silver, and a second hand, but all in all, not bad... Scourge will be a perfect addition to my Galv & Cyc, though I would've liked a little bit more muted colors... Landshark is a great mold, though kind of 'been there done that' with the Roadbuster color scheme... Flak is a badly overused mold, but the GREAT deco on him is a saving grace.

Energon Rodimus is a nifty toy, mind you... but this looks like a poorly planned fan repaint of E-Rodimus. Sadly, this eyesore is gonna remain in the box...

...though it might be funny to see him powerlinked to Nightbeat.

by **Tirade** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:55 am

I guess I just don't understand the hate for Thunderclash. As soon as I heard it was the Rodimus mold, this is what I pictured. Most of the colors are spot on when compared to the original.

by **darkqueen01** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:00 am

This must be the Playskool version. C'mon where's the real figure?

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:33 am

Ah, it took me a little while to see it, but all the little aspects of the original are there...

-White chest w/logo (which should have been larger)
-Gold feet
-red legs (not exact, but the running red lines on the new one replicate this look, the grill panels add to it)
-blue hips/codpiece with white and red details
- two-tone blue arms, with the wheel on Rodimus making up the bicep piece.
- alt mode has two turbo boosters on it

I definitely see where this came about. I think maybe it seems like there's too much white on the figure, but that's probably a result of having to balance the transformation/alt/robot/deco issues.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:47 am

Counterpunch wrote:Ah, it took me a little while to see it, but all the little aspects of the original are there...

-White chest w/logo (which should have been larger)
-Gold feet
-red legs (not exact, but the running red lines on the new one replicate this look, the grill panels add to it)
-blue hips/codpiece with white and red details
- two-tone blue arms, with the wheel on Rodimus making up the bicep piece.
- alt mode has two turbo boosters on it

I definitely see where this came about. I think maybe it seems like there's too much white on the figure, but that's probably a result of having to balance the transformation/alt/robot/deco issues.

I know there is no accounting for taste, but if there was one of these that I really wanted out of the boxed set, it would be this one. I like the garish colors, it sets him apart from the other incarnations using this mold.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:18 am

U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:00 am

GuyIncognito wrote:U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

We knew he'd be ugly. That's the point. Thunderclash is ugly.

Why is ANOYONE surprised?

The toy is supposed to be garrish.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:05 am

Counterpunch wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

We knew he'd be ugly. That's the point. Thunderclash is ugly.

Why is ANOYONE surprised?

The toy is supposed to be garrish.

Well Flakk's not coloured like Flak. So there's the surprise.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:07 am

Diem wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

We knew he'd be ugly. That's the point. Thunderclash is ugly.

Why is ANOYONE surprised?

The toy is supposed to be garrish.
Well Flakk's not coloured like Flak. So there's the surprise.

No one gives a goddamn about Flakk. He wasn't important. Thunderclash on the otherhand has a defined and notable look to him.

by **Flashback77** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:26 am

This is a terrible, powerlinking figure with a deliberately terrible paint deco applied. I wouldn't even buy this wreck in the store.

Crits aside, this is exactly the kind of set I wanted to see. I bunch of minor and obscure nobodies with made-up paint jobs, which appeal only to the most hardcore fans willing to shell out travel expense to pick these up. Better seeing stuff like these in the con set than repaints which belong in the main line. IMO, this year's store exclusive repaints (which I can easily purchase) are a lot better than this year's con offering.

Awful, awful set all around this year. I'm not sure who thought taking a bunch of overused AEC molds, slapping a made up rank from Animated on them and calling it a con set was a good idea.

News Credits: 217 · by **Diem** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:32 am

Counterpunch wrote:
Diem wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

We knew he'd be ugly. That's the point. Thunderclash is ugly.

Why is ANOYONE surprised?

The toy is supposed to be garrish.
Well Flakk's not coloured like Flak. So there's the surprise.

No one gives a goddamn about Flakk. He wasn't important. Thunderclash on the otherhand has a defined and notable look to him.

Flak showed up in the fiction, which was better than Thunderclash ever managed. Remember, Micromasters deserve love too.

by **Dagon** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:12 pm

Flashback77 wrote:
Awful, awful set all around this year. I'm not sure who thought taking a bunch of overused AEC molds, slapping a made up rank from Animated on them and calling it a con set was a good idea.

I agree with this, but I don't want that to sound spiteful. The two I like are Landshark and Flak, which I think is great, really. That mold just needed something, not special, but maybe coherent applied to it. The new Universe repaints don't offer that, and so the Botcon version does at least make it a complete mold in my opinion. Landshark, I just like that mold, but I do agree that there's really nothing special about it or that could be done with it, so it is just another retread. Overall, I'm not impressed by this years' set, but for everyone that does like it I'm glad. I think that the set is a good idea, and I think it's a nice crossover between Animated and, I don't know, I guess regular TF/G1 continuity, but I'm just not impressed.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:40 pm

See above for a measured and reasonable opinion of dissent.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:13 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

We knew he'd be ugly. That's the point. Thunderclash is ugly. Why is ANOYONE surprised? The toy is supposed to be garrish.

I think I was pretty clear when I said the he ain't got no alibi!

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:23 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:U...G...L...Y...
You ain't got no alibi
You ugly, you ugly
You mama says you ugly

We knew he'd be ugly. That's the point. Thunderclash is ugly. Why is ANOYONE surprised? The toy is supposed to be garrish.

I think I was pretty clear when I said the he ain't got no alibi!

Oh, but he does have an alibi!

He was in the early 90's when this color scheme came about...in Europe.

and that...

explains everything.

by **Flashback77** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:54 pm

Dagon wrote:
Flashback77 wrote:
Awful, awful set all around this year. I'm not sure who thought taking a bunch of overused AEC molds, slapping a made up rank from Animated on them and calling it a con set was a good idea.

I agree with this, but I don't want that to sound spiteful. The two I like are Landshark and Flak, which I think is great, really. That mold just needed something, not special, but maybe coherent applied to it. The new Universe repaints don't offer that, and so the Botcon version does at least make it a complete mold in my opinion. Landshark, I just like that mold, but I do agree that there's really nothing special about it or that could be done with it, so it is just another retread. Overall, I'm not impressed by this years' set, but for everyone that does like it I'm glad. I think that the set is a good idea, and I think it's a nice crossover between Animated and, I don't know, I guess regular TF/G1 continuity, but I'm just not impressed.

Well put. You're right, and my comments were perhaps a lot harsher than they needed to be. I agree that Flak and Landshark are very nice redecos, and I would be tempted to buy them if they appeared in stores. But even then, both have been repainted already and neither one is a must have in any collection, especially with so weak and contrived a story idea behind them.

News Credits: 972 · by **i_amtrunks** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:39 pm

Counterpunch wrote:The toy is supposed to be garrish.

The man speaks truth, but to me, Energon Thunderclash is wrong in the garish stakes, still cannot decide if he is too garish, or not garish enough.

The red/pink legs really throw me, but I think its the shade of blue chosen is worse.

by **BattleRoller23** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:45 pm

I don't think he looks horrible, but they should have used another mold for him like Cybertron Optimus without his armour.

News Credits: 387 · by **Nekoman** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:32 pm

I don't like this one too much, but I'm somewhat interested. I think the smaller Energon Prime mold might have looked interesting in these colors, with a new head. Classics Prime would have also been super-cool in these colors but I know they didn't want to use molds they've used in the past.

I've never been too hot on the Energon Rodimus mold, but I think he may be worth my time since I like that they made a new Thunderclash.

I'm just really underwhelmed with this set as a whole.

News Credits: 1014 · by **First Gen** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:40 pm

I've decided to love this set beyond all measure. Why? Cause I registered in time and will be getting this set and not the 2005 set which I subsequently had to sell just to make it to Botcon last year. So the fact that this will be MY first Primus set ever, to own that is, I will love it in all its goofy color, big arm goodness. :-P

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:46 pm

Nekoman wrote:I don't like this one too much, but I'm somewhat interested. I think the smaller Energon Prime mold might have looked interesting in these colors, with a new head.

I had a real consideration on that as well, but that mold is beyond bad. I'm serious. Worst mold in all of the trilogy.

Worse than Armada Sideswipe
Worse than Cybertron Backstop

Horrible.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:05 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Nekoman wrote:I don't like this one too much, but I'm somewhat interested. I think the smaller Energon Prime mold might have looked interesting in these colors, with a new head.

I had a real consideration on that as well, but that mold is beyond bad. I'm serious. Worst mold in all of the trilogy.

Worse than Armada Sideswipe
Worse than Cybertron Backstop

Horrible.

I'm guessing you really didn't like it.

I don't hate the mold but I really hate it in these colors.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:19 am

DevastaTTor wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Nekoman wrote:I don't like this one too much, but I'm somewhat interested. I think the smaller Energon Prime mold might have looked interesting in these colors, with a new head.

I had a real consideration on that as well, but that mold is beyond bad. I'm serious. Worst mold in all of the trilogy.

Worse than Armada Sideswipe
Worse than Cybertron Backstop

Horrible.

I'm guessing you really didn't like it.

I don't hate the mold but I really hate it in these colors.

I was referring to the deluxe version of Energon Optimus Prime.