Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

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Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 12:58 pm

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Top 5 best Targetmasters since G1

While it was a bit hard to wrap one's head around the headmaster concept, and the differeing interpretation in the fiction, Target Maaters have always been more to the point. It's a simple and fun idea of a robot turning into a weapon that another robot can use. While there was a whole subgroup fo them in the 80s, they were rather similar one to the next so what I would like to focus on is what we have gotten since that era and how that concept kept being brought back to the brand, with a different take everytime. And with Titanmasters making a huge comeback this year, thanks to Takara, I thought it would be the perfect time to look back on what we have gotten in the post-G1 era. The criteria is simple, it has to be a small robot that turns into a weapon to be weilded by someone else and released after the G1 era. Let's get to it!

5. Robots in Disguise Minicon Weaponizer Tricerashot

Even the most enthusiastic Robots in Disguise fan had a tough time warming up to the new Robots in Disguise Minicons. They didn't have the original Minicon Ports and the only ports they did have only fit with either simpler toys collectors were not getting, or Takara Exclusive toys (like their Supreme Class Optimus toys which never got released through Hasbro). To add insult to injury, the only way to really play with them was to spend money on simplified transforming toys called Deployers and you needed three different Deployers to be able to deploy all the differently shaped minicons.

But then, Hasbro had the brilliant idea of bringing back the Targetmasters concept with the next itiration of these RID Minicons. And it was fleshed out well in the cartoon with these little guys really adding firepower to their friends (just as Grimlock). It also solved the problem of having to buy additional toys we didnt need just to do the gimick since anyone in the line (from one-steps and up) could use these. The real standout of these new Targetmaster-like Minicons was Tricerashot. He is a good looking triceratops that becomes a cool three barrelled lazer cannon. It wasn't a perfect rendition of the show model, but a great effort none the less at replicating the three barrels. Plus you have the option to customize him with extra clear plastic accessories in either mode. It's too bad this toy still hasn't appeared in the US as of this article's publication.

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4. Cybertron Vector Prime's Safeguard (Roots)

This guy is a cross of a lot of concepts since while he is a little robot that turns into a gun but it's a gun that is also spliced with a spaceship altmode. He also has a minicon port and has a special slot just for him to complete Vector Prime's full spaceship mode. And he accomplishes everything perfectly. I love how detailed this little guy is in both modes with a very sleek bot mode. And his lower arms are on balljoints just to give that extra premium feel from a golden era we are now way past.

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3. Transformers Power Core Combiners Bomb-Burst/Chainclaw

My problem with a lot of Targetmasters is how one of the modes is usually sacrificed for the other. You might have a great gun but a brick for a robot or you will get a nice robot that doesn't look that much like a convincing weapon. Well enter the Chainclaw/Bomburst mold. Firstly, it's a nice identifiable robot, with lots of poseability for a bot that size (about as much as a Legion class figure). I also love the use of clear plastic, the deco on both of these is fun. And then you get to the best part: the weapon mode. Out of seemingly nowhere you get these two huge missile launchers that now seem completely unavoidable. Its a fun trick of the designers to have the most obvious weapon detail hidden under the robot's feet. And unlike other Targetmasters, this ends up being principally for the bigger bot<s vehicle mode and becomes where it becomes a centerpiece of death and mayhem.

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2. Transformers Universe - Classics 2.0 Nightstick

This is just a great update to the G1 Targetmasters. It's just nice to see a classic Targetmaster brought back and improved in every way. That gun mode is so much more convincing than the G1 version and offers more transformation steps with parts dedicated just to that mode.

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1. Transformers Arms Micron Bulkhead Knuckle

I think you have to own him to know why this guy deserves this spot. He was never released by Hasbro, as is the case with most Arms Micron microns, so I don't expect you all to have him. He's also really hard to search for online because this isn't Arms Micron Bulkhead (meaning Bulkhead from that line), nor is it the micron that comes with Bulkhead but instead this is just Bulkhead as a micron. These were available as single releases in those gashapon machines in Japan where you put in a coin and get a small capsule. All this to say that I am sorry if you cannot bask in the awesomeness that is this Bulkhead micron and I hope my words and pics will help. So here's the deal: he is a small Prime Bulkhead that turns into a literal Hulk Hand. He becomes a big green fist. I got him in a pack of microns and didn't really understand what he was even looking at the picture because he was next to a bunch of swords and guns and a disembodied fist isn't as distinguishable (as you can see here).

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But then I inserted him onto a deluxe figure and bam, I saw it. It's such a perfect fit too, I don't know how Takara did it. The 5 mm peg is positioned at the perfect spot so that making any figure hold him really gives him convincing Hulk hands. It even looks better than pegging combiner fists on toys because not only is it the fist but the forearm too, making it look kinds like Hellboy or a that moment when you use a super punch in a video game. It becomes part of the figure and makes every figure you put it on look so much more badass. Extra props for being smart and finding a simple way to make him both left handed and right handed if need be. This is a very unique weapon to turn into and it could not have been done better.

Here are a couple images I found on the internet (some done by me, FireofOrodruin, Code XCDM and others) to help sell my point:

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Honourable Mentions:

Transformers Generations Eclipse, Payload, Flanker

The Target Master concept came back in full force in the Generations line's Legends Class (which was basically the new name for the scout class). Each robot came with a smaller robot which could turn into a weapon. Interestingly, each of these smaller robots actually had 3 modes. An alt mode, a robot mode and a weapon mode. The two I thought were particularly well done were the Payload and Eclipse mold, the two space shuttles. I thought the robot mode on Eclipse was particularly detailed, especially the tiny face sculpt and both have fun weapon modes that actually look like weapons. You just have to love that double barrel Payload gun!

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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Kurona » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:28 pm

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Tricerashot fortunately did come out here in a surprisingly good bit of UK distribution and I can confirm everything said about him here. I love him. He makes a great gun and the triceratops mode, while not articulated or perfect, is just so adorable. Gave him to Pyra Magna and she looks awesome with it.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Black Hat » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:52 pm

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Everything from Nightstick down is struck out for some reason...

Anyway, great list as always. There's a few I'd be tempted to choose as honourable mentions:

Armada Minicons with weapon modes: I wanted to pick a few but they're all pretty great, so I thought I'd lump them all together. You have Terradive, who turns into a three-bladed claw, Gunbarrel who turns into a gatling gun, and Thunderwing who turns into a shuriken. Then there's Firebot, forming a badass little missile pod, Prowl, who forms a nicely shaped blaster, and Makeshift, who forms a dual-barrelled minigun. Then of course you have the Star Sabre and it's many redecos/retools, Megatron's Minicon Leader-1, the Requiem Blaster, and the often forgotten Over-run who comes with "Bendy" Optimus Prime, who forms a really cool rifle. The best part about all of these IMO is they're triple changers- they can form (simplistic) robots, vehicles AND weapons!

PCC Throttler: He's possibly the most poseable Minicon ever, with balljoints in his shoulders, elbows and hips, thigh swivels and full knee bends. He's more poseable than CW Scrapper! But even if he were a brick he'd be up here, given he turns into a goddamn rotating drill! Sadly his handle is also his head, and the paint is prone to scraping off.

The DOTM HA Scouts: Whilst I can't vouch for the quality of these as I don't own any, they certainly look the part, all with nice vehicle modes, most with cool robot modes (and "armour" modes too, which is cool) and they can all form accessories for bigger figures! Some of these are a bit hokey, yes, but they all seem to have at least one good mode and most are good figures in their own right. Take Reverb- sure his handheld fan mode is ludicrous, but his robot mode and jetbike mode make up for it.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:00 pm

Weapon: Twin Swords
No MP Nightstick?
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Optimum Supreme » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:54 pm

Motto: "That's [not out yet/never came out] in my area."
Weapon: Nuclear Charged Fusion Cannon
It's a simple and fun idea of a robotfleshling turning into a weapon that another robot can use.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby MagicDeath » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:58 pm

Motto: "Oversight is the root of all failure."
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby GrandGalvatronG1 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:01 pm

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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Deadput » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:06 pm

Motto: "Let's kick the tires and light the fires!"
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Lol even the comments are striked out on the news page. (it's fine in the forums though)

But this is a good list...now I really want that Bulk-fist.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Kurona » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:08 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:No MP Nightstick?

We tend not to include recent toys in our lists to avoid recency bias, no matter how amazing the recent toy may or may not be.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:19 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
Weapon: Laser Rifle
what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby steals_your_goats » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:30 pm

Weapon: Twin Swords
Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:No MP Nightstick?

We tend not to include recent toys in our lists to avoid recency bias, no matter how amazing the recent toy may or may not be.

Ah okay, that makes sense
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Kurona » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:33 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:

Owning both of those molds, I'll say they're great Legends-class figures - especially Shockwave, my god is he good - but terrible Targetmasters. They're far too weighty for their intended Combiners - or any Combiner - to hold them up, meaning they fail at the purpose of being weapons. And this is before we get to Powerglide/Viper's gun mode being, ah... well, it doesn't look very good. It looks less like a gun and more like a robot lying down very awkwardly with missile pods painted on its arms.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Burn » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:18 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:

You can always put them in a list that you put together. :wink:
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:38 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:


The list ain't the Covenant of Primus or anything. Just a compilation from a small group's personal preference and not a result of a scientific poll.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:30 pm

MagicDeath wrote:It's hard to take text seriously when it's struck out :-P

Thanks for pointing it out ;)^ Its fixed now, so you can enjoy the list and let us know your thoughts on its content.

Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:

You find them better than the ones mentioned? I found that the weapon mode was by far the weakest (and shockwave's handle limits how you can hold it) so I preferred including the ones who had nicer looking gun modes.

Anyways, where you place these two on this list and who would you remove to make place for them?

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Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:No MP Nightstick?

We tend not to include recent toys in our lists to avoid recency bias, no matter how amazing the recent toy may or may not be.

Ah okay, that makes sense


There's also the fact that this list was written a year ago and that I (or anyone else) didnt own that toy then. With Takara releasing a bunch fo new targetmasters, I would never be able to catch up (since I dont plan on buying them all) so if I didnt publish now (before owning Nightstick), I could never publish this list. If ever I get him or the upcoming targetmasters later and they turn out better than any of the ones on this list, I will make an update. Other lists will need to be updated first though, like the Ironhide one. I should get on that soon.

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It's a simple and fun idea of a robotfleshling turning into a weapon that another robot can use.


Is that true for both Takara and Hasbro toy fiction? I always knew of Targetmasters as robots for some reason. Is Safeguard an organic too?
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:32 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
Weapon: Laser Rifle
fenrir72 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:


The list ain't the Covenant of Primus or anything. Just a compilation from a small group's personal preference and not a result of a scientific poll.

Well for one at least I thought since this was a list of post G1 targetmaster transformers meaning robots that turn into weapons shockwave would be the ultimate targetmaster I don't need to make my own list, a list is already made, I was merely asking a question >:oP
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:36 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
Weapon: Laser Rifle
Burn wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:

You can always put them in a list that you put together. :wink:

Mr moderater, I'm not but thanks for the suggestion though
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:45 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
Weapon: Laser Rifle
william-james88 wrote:
MagicDeath wrote:It's hard to take text seriously when it's struck out :-P

Thanks for pointing it out ;)^ Its fixed now, so you can enjoy the list and let us know your thoughts on its content.

Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:

You find them better than the ones mentioned? I found that the weapon mode was by far the weakest (and shockwave's handle limits how you can hold it) so I preferred including the ones who had nicer looking gun modes.

Anyways, where you place these two on this list and who would you remove to make place for them?

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Kurona wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:No MP Nightstick?

We tend not to include recent toys in our lists to avoid recency bias, no matter how amazing the recent toy may or may not be.

Ah okay, that makes sense


There's also the fact that this list was written a year ago and that I (or anyone else) didnt own that toy then. With Takara releasing a bunch fo new targetmasters, I would never be able to catch up (since I dont plan on buying them all) so if I didnt publish now (before owning Nightstick), I could never publish this list. If ever I get him or the upcoming targetmasters later and they turn out better than any of the ones on this list, I will make an update. Other lists will need to be updated first though, like the Ironhide one. I should get on that soon.

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It's a simple and fun idea of a robotfleshling turning into a weapon that another robot can use.


Is that true for both Takara and Hasbro toy fiction? I always knew of Targetmasters as robots for some reason. Is Safeguard an organic too?

whats wrong with shockwaves gunmode it looks more like a gun than some on the list, im just wondering
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Kurona » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:58 pm

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Safeguard was a robot in fiction -- as was Tricerashot. And the Armada mini-cons. And the Arms Micron, and the PCC guys... The only universes where Targetmasters are organic would be in the G1 cartoon, Marvel comics and any continuities deriving from that; so it's kinda the exception rather than the rule.
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:08 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:whats wrong with shockwaves gunmode it looks more like a gun than some on the list, im just wondering

I didnt write that correctly, I am sorry. I was looking at Kurona's comment and writing about Viper and Powerglide so lumping them together when talking about the gun mode. For Shockwave I was only talking about the handle, which doesnt make sense to me. Its an odd toy for me to think of it as a targetmaster. They make it turn into a spaceship type thing right? And then you turn it into a gun by flipping down the handle? To be frank I didnt think of him as a targetmaster. Theres also the fact that the scale is a bit off, no? Is he still a targetmaster if he only scales with combiners? Is G1 Megatron and Shockwave also a targetmaster they turn into guns? More of an open question than a comment. In any case, judging him as a target master, that handle, which is crucial to his targetmaster mode, it problematic. I dont know why they added that extra hand guard next to the handle, it means not all bots can handle him and he cant peg on any 5 mm port which usually the goal of weapons and targetmasters.

In any case, who would you remove from the list to add these two and where would you place them?
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Kurona » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:37 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Ultra Markus wrote:whats wrong with shockwaves gunmode it looks more like a gun than some on the list, im just wondering

I didnt write that correctly, I am sorry. I was looking at Kurona's comment and writing about Viper and Powerglide so lumping them together when talking about the gun mode. For Shockwave I was only talking about the handle, which doesnt make sense to me. Its an odd toy for me to think of it as a targetmaster. They make it turn into a spaceship type thing right? And then you turn it into a gun by flipping down the handle? To be frank I didnt think of him as a targetmaster. Theres also the fact that the scale is a bit off, no? Is he still a targetmaster if he only scales with combiners? Is G1 Megatron and Shockwave also a targetmaster they turn into guns? More of an open question than a comment. In any case, judging him as a target master, that handle, which is crucial to his targetmaster mode, it problematic. I dont know why they added that extra hand guard next to the handle, it means not all bots can handle him and he cant peg on any 5 mm port which usually the goal of weapons and targetmasters.

In any case, who would you remove from the list to add these two and where would you place them?

The rules of your list do state simply that a Targetmaster just has to "transform into a weapon that can be wielded by someone", no matter the size. I think that justifies the CW guys as Targetmasters just fine to me ;)
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Burn » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:38 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:what about combiner wars powerglide or shockwave :???:


The list ain't the Covenant of Primus or anything. Just a compilation from a small group's personal preference and not a result of a scientific poll.

Well for one at least I thought since this was a list of post G1 targetmaster transformers meaning robots that turn into weapons shockwave would be the ultimate targetmaster I don't need to make my own list, a list is already made, I was merely asking a question >:oP

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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:31 pm

Kurona wrote:The rules of your list do state simply that a Targetmaster just has to "transform into a weapon that can be wielded by someone", no matter the size. I think that justifies the CW guys as Targetmasters just fine to me ;)

Glad I left it as open as possible then, and thanks for answering my own questions with my own words :lol:

Well on with the discussion, does anyone have any of their lists to share? Who are people's favourites? How does Nightstick match up to these or is he in a league of his own?
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Ultra Markus » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:02 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:whats wrong with shockwaves gunmode it looks more like a gun than some on the list, im just wondering

I didnt write that correctly, I am sorry. I was looking at Kurona's comment and writing about Viper and Powerglide so lumping them together when talking about the gun mode. For Shockwave I was only talking about the handle, which doesnt make sense to me. Its an odd toy for me to think of it as a targetmaster. They make it turn into a spaceship type thing right? And then you turn it into a gun by flipping down the handle? To be frank I didnt think of him as a targetmaster. Theres also the fact that the scale is a bit off, no? Is he still a targetmaster if he only scales with combiners? Is G1 Megatron and Shockwave also a targetmaster they turn into guns? More of an open question than a comment. In any case, judging him as a target master, that handle, which is crucial to his targetmaster mode, it problematic. I dont know why they added that extra hand guard next to the handle, it means not all bots can handle him and he cant peg on any 5 mm port which usually the goal of weapons and targetmasters.

In any case, who would you remove from the list to add these two and where would you place them?

i dont know who i would put in place if shock wave had a better handle maybe somewhere but only a top five when there are so many, like so many minicons that form weapons also perhaps a top 5 of minicons that turn into weapons like that requiem blaster for one, would be a cool list to compile, what do you think :-?
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Re: Top 5 Best Targetmasters Post-G1

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:12 am

Having never owned him, I never realized what a beautiful figure Nightstick is. I might have to buy him for CW Cyclonus.

And Kurona, is "recency bias" really a thing? If it is, I disagree with it being a valid reason to exclude recently released figures. If a figure is a great piece, it doesn't matter if it was released 10 years ago or 10 days ago. And yes, I do realize sometimes the luster of a newer figure wears off after a while. :D

As for my list I am not familiar with characters that turn into weapons past Armada, so I will just nominate the entire Mini-con line from that continuity, with the Star Saber, the Requiem Blaster and the Skyboom Shield taking up the top 3 spots. That is, if combined characters-turning-into-weapons are allowed.
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