New Images of Takara Tomy Legends Misfire, Doublecross, Triggerhappy, Broadside, Targetmasters
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 22nd, 2017 @ 8:38am CDT
Now it's far more easier to navigate through all of the comics on one page.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on June 22nd, 2017 @ 9:32am CDT
Posted by KVO Prime on June 22nd, 2017 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2017 @ 11:15am CDT
MagicDeath wrote:Ok! So, who are all these guys based on, now that we have clear, straight-on pictures?
The Targetmasters are, from left to right, Kup's partner Recoil, Hot Rod's partner Firebolt, Blurr's partner Haywire (who comes with Doublecross because Legends Blurr already came out; he's obviously still designed to go with Blurr - see those clips on him? Those are no doubt for attaching to Blurr's car mode since it lacks topside ports), Triggerhappy's partner Blowpipe, and Misfire's partner Aimless. That first Headmaster is Triggerhappy's head. Doublecross's Headmaster is based on White Leo (and unlike the US version's "Daburu" is fully painted up to really show it). Not sure on the other head
Posted by Kurona on June 22nd, 2017 @ 11:21am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:MagicDeath wrote:Ok! So, who are all these guys based on, now that we have clear, straight-on pictures?
The Targetmasters are, from left to right, Kup's partner Recoil, Hot Rod's partner Firebolt, Blurr's partner Haywire (who comes with Doublecross because Legends Blurr already came out; he's obviously still designed to go with Blurr - see those clips on him? Those are no doubt for attaching to Blurr's car mode since it lacks topside ports), Triggerhappy's partner Blowpipe, and Misfire's partner Aimless. That first Headmaster is Triggerhappy's head. Doublecross's Headmaster is based on White Leo (and unlike the US version's "Daburu" is fully painted up to really show it). Not sure on the other head
Aah, but not quite.
While it would be simpler if the Targetmasters came with their actual partners - and I have no idea why they didn't do that - the Targetmasters that are actually assigned to each figure are largely random. I'll quote from Jelze since she had the full list so far:-
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Checklist time:
Pinpointer: None
Peacemaker: LG46 Targetmaster Chear / Kup
Spoilsport: None
Firebolt: None
Haywire: LG51 Targetmaster Doublecross / Twinferno
Recoil: None
Aimless: LG52 Targetmaster Misfire
Blowpipe: LG49 Targetmaster Triggerhappy
Caliburst: LG?? Targetmaster Slugslinger
Fracas: LG45 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus
Nightstick: None
We should start making image comparisons to be honest.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:06pm CDT
Kurona wrote:We should start making image comparisons to be honest.
Cue Cyberbath
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:08pm CDT
MagicDeath wrote:Kurona wrote:We should start making image comparisons to be honest.
Cue Cyberbath
We need a Bat-Signal to summon Cyberpath for this stuff.
Posted by Cyberpath on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:59pm CDT
Kurona wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:MagicDeath wrote:Ok! So, who are all these guys based on, now that we have clear, straight-on pictures?
The Targetmasters are, from left to right, Kup's partner Recoil, Hot Rod's partner Firebolt, Blurr's partner Haywire (who comes with Doublecross because Legends Blurr already came out; he's obviously still designed to go with Blurr - see those clips on him? Those are no doubt for attaching to Blurr's car mode since it lacks topside ports), Triggerhappy's partner Blowpipe, and Misfire's partner Aimless. That first Headmaster is Triggerhappy's head. Doublecross's Headmaster is based on White Leo (and unlike the US version's "Daburu" is fully painted up to really show it). Not sure on the other head
Aah, but not quite.
While it would be simpler if the Targetmasters came with their actual partners - and I have no idea why they didn't do that - the Targetmasters that are actually assigned to each figure are largely random. I'll quote from Jelze since she had the full list so far:-JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Checklist time:
Pinpointer: None
Peacemaker: LG46 Targetmaster Chear / Kup
Spoilsport: None
Firebolt: None
Haywire: LG51 Targetmaster Doublecross / Twinferno
Recoil: None
Aimless: LG52 Targetmaster Misfire
Blowpipe: LG49 Targetmaster Triggerhappy
Caliburst: LG?? Targetmaster Slugslinger
Fracas: LG45 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus
Nightstick: None
We should start making image comparisons to be honest.
Jelze is wrong and I have no idea where they pulled the Fracas name from. Peacemaker I can see based on comparison, but not Fracas.
Just look at the photos of these Targetmasters and compare them to the original toys.
Firebolt:
Fracas:
Recoil:
Peacemaker:
The LG45 Targetmaster is Firebolt. He has Firebolt's shoulders, Firebolt's head, Firebolts pec detailing, Firebolt's leg detailing, and is double-barreled like Firebolt. On top of that, his eyes are colored Autobot Blue.
The LG46 Targetmaster is less clear-cut. The body detail is like Peacemaker's but the headsculpt is like Recoil's. I would lean towards him being Recoil because he's colored like Recoil and is double-barreled like Recoil.
Fracas already had an update anyway, it was called Nightstick and packaged with Cyclonus because the perpetual bunglers at Marvel Productions & Sunbow mixed the two up back in the eighties:
Posted by Cyberpath on June 22nd, 2017 @ 1:09pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:MagicDeath wrote:Kurona wrote:We should start making image comparisons to be honest.
Cue Cyberbath
We need a Bat-Signal to summon Cyberpath for this stuff.
Here you go, guys. This is the most sense I can make of it. There were so many new characters in "Rebirth" that I never really paid attention to who were the guns and heads aside for the more prominent ones. Unfortunately this reference material is found only in B/W.
Posted by Kurona on June 22nd, 2017 @ 1:21pm CDT
Still, I was wrong about Firebolt. Whoops!
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 22nd, 2017 @ 2:19pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 22nd, 2017 @ 2:42pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 22nd, 2017 @ 4:02pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm glad they didn't ditch it like they did with Revolver being Jack on Sixshot. Should be interesting to see how the Legends comic handles this; maybe this will be the introduction of the American style of Headmastering?
I'm guessing Takara was nowhere near as amused by the wink-and-nod basing of Revolver on Jack (or the headband) and maybe didn't think it worked given Sixshot's Japanese backstory.
The pairing of White Leo with Doublecross, on the other hand, works nicely with the Monsterbots being assigned to Planet Beast as reinforcements for White Leo and his resistance.
Posted by Relic0037 on June 22nd, 2017 @ 8:34pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 23rd, 2017 @ 12:20am CDT
Kurona wrote:Weren't a lot of the Targetmaster models switched around in the cartoons? I think the most infamous one was Nightstick but I could've sworn the original toys are a different story.
Still, I was wrong about Firebolt. Whoops!
Really the only other big mixup was Blurr's regular gun being drawn instead of Haywire's gun mode.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 23rd, 2017 @ 11:38am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Kurona wrote:Weren't a lot of the Targetmaster models switched around in the cartoons? I think the most infamous one was Nightstick but I could've sworn the original toys are a different story.
Still, I was wrong about Firebolt. Whoops!
Really the only other big mixup was Blurr's regular gun being drawn instead of Haywire's gun mode.
Exactly, but the Fracas/Nightstick mix-up is the more infamous one, and the one with far-reaching headache-inducing consequences. Not just between the naming of the toys between the US and Japan, but the Marvel comics got a wallop as well via Krunix.
And yes, I was wrong about Firebolt, but the two do superficially look similar. To be frank it was the striping on the legs that threw me off.
Posted by joevill on June 28th, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on June 30th, 2017 @ 10:16am CDT
Shots out of Minerva and Cab in head mode. The paint is kinda thick on these, though I'm reckoning that might be because they're hand painted prototypes
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 30th, 2017 @ 10:22am CDT
Black Hat wrote:
Shots out of Minerva and Cab in head mode. The paint is kinda thick on these, though I'm reckoning that might be because they're hand painted prototypes
You have a source so I can news?
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2017 @ 10:25am CDT
http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810874508/D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Black Hat wrote:
Shots out of Minerva and Cab in head mode. The paint is kinda thick on these, though I'm reckoning that might be because they're hand painted prototypes
You have a source so I can news?
Featuring even more pics.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 30th, 2017 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 30th, 2017 @ 10:34am CDT
The new heads look alright, but did anyone else think Cab was Swerve?
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 30th, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm completely a broken record at this point, but Ginrai's feet are just bad. They look so unnatural and almost ruins how amazing the rest of the figure is. It really comes to fore in these images though; sheesh, even Godbomber doesn't save it.
The new heads look alright, but did anyone else think Cab was Swerve?
I understand where you're coming from with the feet. But I say a giant, anthropomorphic, robot truck from space can have his feet be slightly, unrealistically human proportioned if he wants I am just rewatching Masterforce, last time only watched some of it and it was 10 yrs ago or so, and loving Ginrai. Lightfoot is cool as well. Although I have a hard time accepting the whole earth, heaven, human power stuff for Transformers. But Im coming around becauase of how great the show is. Almost decided to buy this new set. I already have Go-shuta from Wheelie.
Posted by Cyberpath on June 30th, 2017 @ 11:42am CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 30th, 2017 @ 11:45am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on June 30th, 2017 @ 11:46am CDT
Kurona wrote:Sweet! Got one for Minerva?
Thanks! Tried to. But her head design is missing from the sheet.
Posted by Evil Eye on June 30th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CDT
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 30th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 30th, 2017 @ 1:49pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm completely a broken record at this point, but Ginrai's feet are just bad. They look so unnatural and almost ruins how amazing the rest of the figure is. It really comes to fore in these images though; sheesh, even Godbomber doesn't save it.
I think the feet are fine and it's Godbomber that looks like total crud. Especially when combined with Ginrai or in...whatever that thing is in one of the last pics.. a base?
Those Titans look pretty bad too, ugly colour schemes. Really Ginrai is fine on his own. Don't need all this other stuff.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 30th, 2017 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 30th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:That was a horrible opinion
That was an unnecessarily rude post. Let's try and have a civil, respectful conversation no matter what you think of another's opinion, yeah? This is just toys.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 30th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on June 30th, 2017 @ 2:16pm CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Like i said..."that was a horrible opinion" and thats my opinion... stop looking to start s**t.So Now opinions about opinions are rude? Please, come up with something more creditable. It's disrespect blown all over the place in these threads, dont lecture me
"That was a horrible opinion" comes across as rude.
You could have easily said, "I completely disagree." and sounded much nicer. You could also explain why you disagree. That always helps too.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 30th, 2017 @ 2:21pm CDT
Good day
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 30th, 2017 @ 2:57pm CDT
This is absolutely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. This is your warning to be civil and cordial from now on.G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Are you f**king serious right now?... Are you illustrating to me how i should talk now?,Even after I stated a few ago "dont lecture me"... So I'll tell you what, let me illustrate for you "rude"... STFU! Now moderate that.
Posted by mesh on June 30th, 2017 @ 3:40pm CDT
Those ankles......they look horrible! The figure from the waist up is absolutely stunning, but it seems to me that the legs became an after-thought due to the trailer transformation.
I would buy it but the legs throw me off completely.
Posted by Cyberpath on June 30th, 2017 @ 4:54pm CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 30th, 2017 @ 4:56pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 30th, 2017 @ 4:59pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on June 30th, 2017 @ 5:01pm CDT
Kurona wrote:The barely-visible mouth, the thin nature of the face largely due to the receded cheekbones... I can't help but think of this.
Think of what?
Posted by Cyberpath on June 30th, 2017 @ 5:03pm CDT
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on June 30th, 2017 @ 5:04pm CDT
before you ask i said Takatomy on purpose, I think it's a nice counterpart for hasblow, I mean taka means garbage
Posted by gothsaurus on June 30th, 2017 @ 5:09pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 30th, 2017 @ 5:20pm CDT
As for Godbomber.. the poor guy's a victim of both aversion to partsforming and the mandate that Leader-class figures from TR/the corresponding Legends period Must Have A Base Mode. And possibly too much focus during design on him standing as an independent figure, but the other two factors are the main things to blame.
Posted by Relic0037 on June 30th, 2017 @ 6:57pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm completely a broken record at this point, but Ginrai's feet are just bad. They look so unnatural and almost ruins how amazing the rest of the figure is. It really comes to fore in these images though; sheesh, even Godbomber doesn't save it.
I think the design pays homage to both the original G1 figure and the character on Masterforce. The legs are much more stable than they look. But if you still don't like it, the version should still be available.
Posted by grimdragon2001 on June 30th, 2017 @ 7:24pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:I have to say, looking at Minerva...I'm kinda not sure. The "robot" mode looks fine, but the head mode, even with the allowances made for the prototype paint, looks...off somehow. I will say if I get any version of Ginrai it'll probably be this boxset, but I'm actually tempted to just get a Nightbeat and customize it into Minerva, either by using the base faceplate and removing the face portion (and sculpting a replacement) or replacing the faceplate altogether with one off Shapeways.
If you are going to customize an existing face, id go with Ptero. it works very well for Minerva, though i did trim the chin a little on mine
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2017 @ 11:33pm CDT
No they didn't. It's a brand new Titan Master/Headmaster mold.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looking at Minerva.. Thank goodness they retooled away the stupid growly face from Nightbeat,
Minerva... is the red one. Cab is the white one, with the brown-skinned chin.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:but ye gods does she need some red paint! Her armor is completely the wrong color! I was hoping those earlier photos showing her were a test scheme that would be fixed for the final product, but it looks like they're being dumb and sticking with it! Bad Takara!
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 1st, 2017 @ 12:23am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No they didn't. It's a brand new Titan Master/Headmaster mold.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looking at Minerva.. Thank goodness they retooled away the stupid growly face from Nightbeat,Minerva... is the red one. Cab is the white one, with the brown-skinned chin.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:but ye gods does she need some red paint! Her armor is completely the wrong color! I was hoping those earlier photos showing her were a test scheme that would be fixed for the final product, but it looks like they're being dumb and sticking with it! Bad Takara!
You're right, my bad I think I was thrown off by the pic heads being swapped in position compared to the upright forms. That and misremembering Cab/Lug as also being red.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 1st, 2017 @ 1:04am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No they didn't. It's a brand new Titan Master/Headmaster mold.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looking at Minerva.. Thank goodness they retooled away the stupid growly face from Nightbeat,Minerva... is the red one. Cab is the white one, with the brown-skinned chin.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:but ye gods does she need some red paint! Her armor is completely the wrong color! I was hoping those earlier photos showing her were a test scheme that would be fixed for the final product, but it looks like they're being dumb and sticking with it! Bad Takara!
You're right, my bad I think I was thrown off by the pic heads being swapped in position compared to the upright forms. That and misremembering Cab/Lug as also being red.
Maybe it's because when they're bonded with their transtectors they switch colors? In other words:
Minerva (human): red
Minerva (robot): white
Cab (human): white
Cab (robot): red