Images of Transformers: Age of the Primes Prima and Armada Red Alert

So Prima comes with the matrix from literally everywhere else,. an d transform into... what exactly?

A hover thing?

Interesting choice.

That coloring definitely seems to confirm that this will be Aligned Prima

Glyph wrote:Via @CsbiaoO_, colour version of the Prima prototype

william-james88 wrote:Via @CsbiaoO_, we now have images of the colour version of the Prima prototype we previously saw.

Would be nice to get credit when you just copy a post like that, you know.

By the way, you've only copied my resized imgur thumbnails into the news post, not the full size originals on the click through.

Glyph wrote:

Glyph wrote:Via @CsbiaoO_, colour version of the Prima prototype

william-james88 wrote:Via @CsbiaoO_, we now have images of the colour version of the Prima prototype we previously saw.

Would be nice to get credit when you just copy a post like that, you know.

By the way, you've only copied my resized imgur thumbnails into the news post, not the full size originals on the click through.

I didn't have much time, so I did what I could. I'll write you a credit in the news post.

Overcracker wrote:So Prima comes with the matrix from literally everywhere else,. an d transform into... what exactly?

A hover thing?

Interesting choice.

Prima got 6 wheels. So a space truck or something like Kup. But the front profile reminds me of BBM Soundwave hover-crab thingamajig.

There has to be a missing piece from the front of Prima's truck(ish) mode, right? What is there looks so unfinished like something is missing.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:There has to be a missing piece from the front of Prima's truck(ish) mode, right? What is there looks so unfinished like something is missing.

Looks like someone forgot to fold up the front bumper. You can see it on the underside of the vehicle mode.





It's instead folded out and connected to the windshield in this robot mode pic, when it was folded away on the yellow test shot:

they cant steal the heads once they're in the box now so they're stealing them while they're still unreleased

cloudballoon wrote:

Overcracker wrote:So Prima comes with the matrix from literally everywhere else,. an d transform into... what exactly?

A hover thing?

Interesting choice.

Prima got 6 wheels. So a space truck or something like Kup. But the front profile reminds me of BBM Soundwave hover-crab thingamajig.

Yeah, just a random futuristic alien vehicle.

Updated image shows the alt mode more. It's more like a rover, somewhat like Siege's Ironhide/Ratchet but wider & flatter. It's look coherent at least and I'm fine with it. The bot mode looks good, love its size & finger articulation.

But based on what's revealed so far of Prima & Megatronus, I do wish the AOTP Primes have more unique designs than these regular, angular shapes. Oh well, at least they pair well with Legacy Cybertron Vector Prime and TR Alpha Trion.

cloudballoon wrote:Updated image shows the alt mode more. It's more like a rover, somewhat like Siege's Ironhide/Ratchet but wider & flatter. It's look coherent at least and I'm fine with it. The bot mode looks good, love its size & finger articulation.

I wonder if it will/can be retooled into Sentinel Prime. Or would Sentinel need his own mold.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if it will/can be retooled into Sentinel Prime. Or would Sentinel need his own mold.

I really wish Hasbro will do the 13 right by each having their own molds. But being Cocks' Hasbro, I'm sure a few will be retooled, just wish it's not between the 13.

With Red Alert coming soon, this at least means we can have the Armada game trio until Smokescreen and the rest show up. (Btw Chris Cucks, if you're a true gamer then bring back the Armada game).

Quantum Surge wrote:With Red Alert coming soon, this at least means we can have the Armada game trio until Smokescreen and the rest show up. (Btw Chris Cucks, if you're a true gamer then bring back the Armada game).

For someone who only cares about "shareholder values," and treat Hasbro as an IP farm, you KNOW it'll be endless DLCs, Microtransaction, Gotcha and Live Service reshell games/collabs from now on right?

I wouldn't bring my hopes up getting remasters/re-releases of WFC/FOC or Devastation, let alone Armada.

cloudballoon wrote:

Quantum Surge wrote:With Red Alert coming soon, this at least means we can have the Armada game trio until Smokescreen and the rest show up. (Btw Chris Cucks, if you're a true gamer then bring back the Armada game).

For someone who only cares about "shareholder values," and treat Hasbro as an IP farm, you KNOW it'll be endless DLCs, Microtransaction, Gotcha and Live Service reshell games/collabs from now on right?

I wouldn't bring my hopes up getting remasters/re-releases of WFC/FOC or Devastation, let alone Armada.

Hence why I jabbed Chris.

Via @CsbiaoO_, we have even more images of Prima, this time focusing on their alt mode. The view from the side shows us that it is more functional than some fans thought, with rolling wheels. It ends up being more along the lines of what we’d see from a Cybertronian Ironhide or Ratchet alt mode. The front of the truck appears to be mistransformed though with a panel for the bumper not properly lifted. But that’s just a guess.

Now that we have a better look at the altmode, let us know if you think it looks good or not.

Oh huh, didn't see those extra ones go up. That's.. certainly some kind of vehicle, for sure.

Doesn't look too bad in profile actually, the front-on shots were giving it a very generic fold-up look but I quite like the angle created by the arms. Might just be the lighting but I think it looks better in the profile shot from Nov 22 if you have that.

Not a terrible alt-mode, but not awesome either. Overall I dig it though. It'll be interesting to see what the final plastic & paint color choices are.

william-james88 wrote:The front of the truck appears to be mistransformed though with a panel for the bumper not properly lifted. But that’s just a guess.

Now that we have a better look at the altmode, let us know if you think it looks good or not.

I'm not sure the front's mis-transformed, considering that the bumper & fog lights are painted. With 2 unpainted headlights visible too. The prominent hinges are unfortunate, but I have the idea of painting it blue and through the off-white windshield "frame" & roof so they look like racing stripes like Jazz/Bayverse Camaro Bee got.

Not what I wanted as Prima's alt mode, but I like it. It's an aggressive looking rover. And with an apparent 5mm hole and we don't know what the weapon accesory will look like, maybe it pegs into that hole and add a battering ram to it, like Legacy Infernac Magneous? That'll be even cooler.

I wasn't sold on the initial bot mode pics, it looked a hollow and cheap, but in these colors and seeing the alt mode, I like it. We'll see how it goes with the actual reveal, but so far I'm still on board with AOTP.

Kyleor wrote:Not a terrible alt-mode, but not awesome either. Overall I dig it though. It'll be interesting to see what the final plastic & paint color choices are.

What you see in the pics should be the final colors

Horrid.

cloudballoon wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if it will/can be retooled into Sentinel Prime. Or would Sentinel need his own mold.

I really wish Hasbro will do the 13 right by each having their own molds. But being Cocks' Hasbro, I'm sure a few will be retooled, just wish it's not between the 13.

As Sentinel isn't one of 'the 13', if he is a retool it shouldn't effect 'the 13' each getting a figure distinct from each other.

ThunderThruster wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if it will/can be retooled into Sentinel Prime. Or would Sentinel need his own mold.

I really wish Hasbro will do the 13 right by each having their own molds. But being Cocks' Hasbro, I'm sure a few will be retooled, just wish it's not between the 13.

As Sentinel isn't one of 'the 13', if he is a retool it shouldn't effect 'the 13' each getting a figure distinct from each other.

Sentinel isn't part of this line.

True Sentinel isn't part of the Original Thriteen Primes. It's "AGE of the Primes", not "AGES" so the focus should be on the OG. And personally I have no need of a new Sentinel Prime unless it's done really well.

We had promotional poster reveals for the CHUG mainline every year for over a decade, with or without an accompanying show around early Octobers. What do we have for AOTP? Just a logo reveal iirc. Is this non-marketing strategy a means to introduce some mystique to the 13th? Is this winning over fans new & old in anticipation for the line?

I just wish Hasbro can spare a little bit of marketing budget to create some promotional media for the line even if Paramount/Nick/Netflix doesn't want to pickup a TV show. Even a motion comic video uploaded to YouTube will do, something to deepen the lore, back story of the toy line and better detailed bios will get people invested in the characters and buying the figures. It's far better than those one-line blurb in the back of the box.

cloudballoon wrote:We had promotional poster reveals for the CHUG mainline every year for over a decade, with or without an accompanying show around early Octobers. What do we have for AOTP? Just a logo reveal iirc. Is this non-marketing strategy a means to introduce some mystique to the 13th? Is this winning over fans new & old in anticipation for the line?

The reason we already know such much about this line at this time is because of the leakers. Legacy United still isn't done yet, as there's still one more wave of Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders that has yet to be released as of this typing. Officially-speaking, we weren't supposed to know as much about this line as we already do at this point, and wouldn't have known as much if it hadn't been for the leakers spoiling so much about the line several months in advance of Hasbro's schedule of official announcements and reveals for it. The original leaks for this line were unprecedented in how early and how abundant they were in giving things away about this line so far ahead of Hasbro's official plans for it. We've been spoiled, and consequently those early spoilers have made us impatient and restless for something we were yet supposed to know so much about.

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:We had promotional poster reveals for the CHUG mainline every year for over a decade, with or without an accompanying show around early Octobers. What do we have for AOTP? Just a logo reveal iirc. Is this non-marketing strategy a means to introduce some mystique to the 13th? Is this winning over fans new & old in anticipation for the line?

The reason we already know such much about this line at this time is because of the leakers. Legacy United still isn't done yet, as there's still one more wave of Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders that has yet to be released as of this typing. Officially-speaking, we weren't supposed to know as much about this line as we already do at this point, and wouldn't have known as much if it hadn't been for the leakers spoiling so much about the line several months in advance of Hasbro's schedule of official announcements and reveals for it. The original leaks for this line were unprecedented in how early and how abundant they were in giving things away about this line so far ahead of Hasbro's official plans for it. We've been spoiled, and consequently those early spoilers have made us impatient and restless for something we were yet supposed to know so much about.

I get that the focus on the 13 Primes for '25 was leaked waaaaaaaaaaay early (back in Feb?) even of we didn't know the official name yet. But the toyline posters (with hints of possible characters) for the next year's toylines usually happened around early Octobers iirc since Siege if not earlier. But we're almost in December now and we still haven't seen the poster (which is also featured on one side/back of product package), that's why I wonder about the intentional "non" marketing material being a strategy to build up the mystique of the Primes.

We should have something like this about a month ago during Pulsecon:

cloudballoon wrote:I get that the focus on the 13 Primes for '25 was leaked waaaaaaaaaaay early (back in Feb?) even of we didn't know the official name yet. But the toyline posters (with hints of possible characters) for the next year's toylines usually happened around early Octobers iirc since Siege if not earlier. But we're almost in December now and we still haven't seen the poster (which is also featured on one side/back of product package), that's why I wonder about the intentional "non" marketing material being a strategy to build up the mystique of the Primes.

We should have something like this about a month ago during Pulsecon:

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It's also because Legacy United got an extension with another wave.

Sabrblade wrote:It's also because Legacy United got an extension with another wave.

Ah I see. So we're seeing the poster in a month or two then. I didn't pay much attention to wave # when I PO my Ramjet. Amazon Canada had it as a March 12, '25 release. So AOTP will be start around June I guess...

I'm hoping he comes with a shield or something that will fill out the front of the alt mode a bit more. We haven't seen accessories yet so that could be why the front looks like something is missing.

Emerje

Via @CsbiaoO_ again, here are some new pictures of the AOTP Armada Red Alert test shot, giving us our first look at the figure in robot mode (still minus the head).

He's shown standing next to Legacy United Silverbolt (Voyager) and next to the AOTP Prima test shot, so this also gives us a relative size reference for them. Quite a difference given that they're both listed as Voyager class in the waves leak!

The original images come from Baidu.

Looks o.k, yeah kind of short, but when most of the mass ends up on your back and your legs have to fit under the car mode, its kind of hard to be any bigger.

Also, seems like o'l Alert does not skip thigh day, like... at all.


Disappointing the chest does not open, at all. I was not expecting a disc launching gimmick, but some hinges and a molded slot would have been nice.

I'll keep my original one, and skip this one I think, unless the final colored version is really, really good looking.

Comparing against the figures in the back, it looks like he's pretty close in height to Siege/Earthrise Megatron if I'm seeing it correctly. So I think really it's Prima who's very tall for his class - he does seem to have lot of hollow space so I guess it must more or less balance out on plastic.

Glyph wrote:Via @CsbiaoO_ again, here are some new pictures of the AOTP Armada Red Alert test shot, giving us our first look at the figure in robot mode (still minus the head).

He's shown standing next to Legacy United Silverbolt (Voyager) and next to the AOTP Prima test shot, so this also gives us a relative size reference for them. Quite a difference given that they're both listed as Voyager class in the waves leak!

The original images come from Baidu.

Thanks a bunch for your work and passion, Glyph

Not seeing the value of a Voyager class figure yet. It's about SS86 Ironhide/Ratchet's height, but nowhere near their complexity from the look of it - it's about as involved as a typical car to bot transformation. Give us a good Minicon Longarm then that should make this worth it.

But, I'll probably get this anyway as I want to complete my main 3 Armada autobot, then I just wish to see Demolishor. That's the only design left that I want in Armada.

cloudballoon wrote:Not seeing the value of a Voyager class figure yet. It's about SS86 Ironhide/Ratchet's height, but nowhere near their complexity from the look of it - it's about as involved as a typical car to bot transformation. Give us a good Minicon Longarm then that should make this worth it.

But, I'll probably get this anyway as I want to complete my main 3 Armada autobot, then I just wish to see Demolishor. That's the only design left that I want in Armada.

It looks like this figure is going for cartoon-accurate scale, in which Red Alert was taller than Hot Shot but didn't tower over him nearly as much as the original toys did.

Ooooh... new gallery & commentary for AOTP Megatronus / The Fallen from Mark Maher! (Instagram link, via TFW2005)

Sabrblade wrote:It looks like this figure is going for cartoon-accurate scale, in which Red Alert was taller than Hot Shot but didn't tower over him nearly as much as the original toys did.

I like the toon-accurate size, just not its Voyager price. It's kind on like Earthrise Trailbreaker/Hoist - near "Voyager" size but simple "Deluxe" transformation. Unlike Hot Rod where he's "Deluxe" size with complex engineering and came with good number of accessories that's worth the Voyager price (at least I can't imagine it could've been been done with Deluxe budget). What make this Red Alert worth the Voyager price without packing with a Minicon?

I do hold a bit of hope though, as I saw there's an minicon peg in alt mode. Though why it's in the back and not on the hood/bonnet where the 5mm hole is now like the OG toy is beyond me, but I guess DOES make sense if it comes with Longarm and it converts into a towing crane. I'd love to be happily surprised!

Glyph wrote:Ooooh... new gallery & commentary for AOTP Megatronus / The Fallen from Mark Maher! (Instagram link, via TFW2005)

Mark seems to be implying that all of the non-Prime toys in the line (like Armada Red Alert and such) are supposed to be direct bloodline descendants of the 13 Primes themselves.

New lore: The Well of Sparks was created by the 13 uniting all of their artifacts together. No more "Murdered Girl Prime melts down to become Cybertron's babymaker."

Mister Meg T. Fallen's staff is the Spark Fuser instead of the Void Scepter.

This Fallen looks a lot like a heavy Tarn retool.

Sabrblade wrote:Mark seems to be implying that all of the non-Prime toys in the line (like Armada Red Alert and such) are supposed to be direct bloodline descendants of the 13 Primes themselves.

New lore: The Well of Sparks was created by the 13 uniting all of their artifacts together. No more "Murdered Girl Prime melts down to become Cybertron's babymaker."

Mister Meg T. Fallen's staff is the Spark Fuser instead of the Void Scepter.

Good spot on the staff, I missed that.

Bloodline lore is meh, I assume that'll be valid for the duration of the AOTP line and retconned at will by other media later on. (And will come with own set of issues in the meantime, I'm sure.)

It's good to see an update to the founding lore - even if it gets a bit close to "unite the planet keys!"-type McGuffinery that could maybe factor into a "collect the artifacts" idea sometime in the future? - to cancel out one of Aligned's ickier additions. Can't remember, was that a Furmanism originally?

Looks like we have a first look at Prima's head, from another test shot showing up on Baidu. As with the rest of the design, the head looks quite different from previous iterations of Prima and features an elaborate crown-like upper section.

Kind of interesting to me that the face & lower helmet have a classic G1 Megatron bucket look to them, versus the Optimus-style helmet from TFOne. Because of the sharp lines I did go back and check the Geoff Senior original version from the Marvel comic, but aside from the chin plate there's no real resemblance there either.

Glyph wrote:Can't remember, was that a Furmanism originally?

Furmanisms are phrases.

Yeah, I know what the term normally means, but somewhat poor approaches to gender have been kind of a cliché for him too. I figured "was that a Furman addition" was clear...

Glyph wrote:Yeah, I know what the term normally means, but somewhat poor approaches to gender have been kind of a cliché for him too. I figured "was that a Furman addition" was clear...

Furman had no hand in any Aligned media. He wasn't writing for Transformers at the time.

"Solus --> Well" was done by the author of the Covenant of Primus book, Justina Robson.

OK, cheers. I was a bit out of the deep fandom around that time and lose track of where the threads came together for Aligned/Covenant stuff.

Glyph wrote:

Kind of interesting to me that the face & lower helmet have a classic G1 Megatron bucket look to them

Speaking of Megatron(s), I was staring at his upper lip because the mouth shape looked a little weird and it started looking like a moustache and now all I can see is Soun Tendo staring out of a bucket helmet.

Send help.

Glyph wrote:

It's the "Powerful Robot" from "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4".

Ah, you're right. Nicely updated and embellished, but clearly the biggest design inspiration.

I always forget about that guy, because my brain refuses to process that image as anything other than Cyclonus.