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Postby Bombus distinguendus » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:27 am

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Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed
Source: The Hollywood Reporter October 4, 2007


Screenwriter Ehren Kruger and the writing team of Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are in talks to team to write the screenplay for DreamWorks/Paramount's Transformers 2, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Director Michael Bay, star Shia LaBeouf and producers Tom DeSanto, Lorenzo di Bonaventura and Don Murphy are back in their respective chairs, as is executive producer Steven Spielberg.

The trade adds that the teaming of A-listers to write such a huge project might be an industry first and could have been necessary because Kurtzman and Orci -- who wrote first movie -- also are busy writing J.J. Abrams' Star Trek movie for Paramount and producing Eagle Eye for DreamWorks.

The three writers are also working together on Nightlife, a DreamWorks serial-killer project that sees Kruger adapting a Thomas Perry novel, with Kurtzman and Orci producing along with Neal Moritz. Kruger also adapted the Stephen King novel "The Talisman," which Spielberg is exec producing for TNT.

Kruger met with Bay and Hasbro president Brian Goldner and impressed the duo with his knowledge of the "Transformers" mythology.
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Postby Toyotus Superion » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:36 am

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Impressed hasbro with their knowledge of TF history? Thats not hard to do. I dont think hasbro themselves know it with all the series and stupid jap spinoffs!
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Postby lodelco » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:16 am

Great. Now all I can think of is Freddy Krueger laughing maniacally and slashing stuff.

hee hee.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:06 am

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Too bad Don Murphy is back, the last thing the world needs is a crude, rude, lying, opinionated, dimwitted fat man mouthing off and being a general jerk.
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Postby bam » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:17 am

i_amtrunks wrote:the last thing the world needs is a crude, rude, lying, opinionated, dimwitted fat man mouthing off and being a general jerk.


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Postby Kayevcee » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:28 am

Honestly, I'm more concerned about Lorenzo DiBonaventura. The man's filmography makes terrifying reading. Still, this bunch pulled a big metal transforming rabbit out of a hat that promptly exploded last time, so I'm not going to go painting a "Down With Loz" placard just yet.

Bob and Alex seemed really enthusiastic at Botcon. They said at their panel that they'd rather have new writers with a good story idea come on board than come back themselves and just write something bland. I guess they had a good idea :)

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Postby Leonardo » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:49 am

trilobitepictures wrote:And Watchmen. Don't forget that after they're done destroying what's left of the Star Trek franchise, they're off to dash any hopes for Watchmen...

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3379&Itemid=99


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Postby NerdVernacular » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:54 am

How, pray tell, is this good news?
I'll go see it if Kremzeek kills Optimus Prime.
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Postby tile_mcgillus » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:56 am

Leonardo wrote:
trilobitepictures wrote:And Watchmen. Don't forget that after they're done destroying what's left of the Star Trek franchise, they're off to dash any hopes for Watchmen...

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3379&Itemid=99


Tell me this is not true.


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After that stellar script of Transformers how on Earth could they screw up Watchmen? Man consider me already stoked for TF2. Its off to a roaring start!
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Postby Briggs » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:09 am

Wow, a lot of negativity here.

I for one welcome the two writers back. They now know how anal we are and how we can spot odd things in their story, they know what they probably want/could do different this time around. I'm sure they have learned a lot or thought of other ideas since they first wrote the first movie.

Now a third creative mind to add to the mix. Bring it on.
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Postby Ultra Magnus » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:45 am

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Odd things in the story? Like Megatron DEAD??? Cybertron Completely Dead? The total LACK of any sort of "Re-energizing" for these living robots? I wouldn't call those "odd things". I'd call those GLARING mistakes.

On the other hand, I'm glad that it is the same ppl that wrote the story for the first movie, because they proably have ideas for an overall arc. I knew there would be a 2. Now let's just see how good it is...
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Postby Blozor » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:51 am

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A lot of negativity...

They turned what could have been Transformers' shining moment where it once and for all proved to the world to be a deep, complex and epic story into a two-hour version of the 1984 cartoon, only with astoundingly less emphasis on the robots.

The critics gave it slightly higher than mediocre marks because they said it was good for what it is: A two-hour toy commercial. I didn't want it to be a "two-hour toy commerical." I didn't want people to go, "That's what I expected." I wanted people to go, "Wow, I didn't realize there was so much to these toys. Now I see what all the hype was about."

As far as I'm concerned, they stole our moment of glory and made it into a toy commercial arguably as well-written as the 1980's cartoon.
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Ehren Kruger is an interesting choice. Here's his IMDB entry: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0472567/

"The Talisman" (2008) (mini) TV Series (pre-production) (screenplay)
Blood and Chocolate (2007) (screenplay)
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I'm glad to see the rest of the crew back on board. I think one of the worst things that could happen would for #2 to have a totally different feel than #1 (no bathroom jokes now). This is actually great news that they're already putting the team together for #2. We just might see this movie released on June 26th, 2009 afterall.

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Postby juushinkan » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:11 am

Seibertron wrote:Ehren Kruger is an interesting choice. Here's his IMDB entry: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0472567/

"The Talisman" (2008) (mini) TV Series (pre-production) (screenplay)
Blood and Chocolate (2007) (screenplay)
The Brothers Grimm (2005) (written by)
The Skeleton Key (2005) (written by)
The Ring Two (2005) (written by)
Rings (2005) (V) (written by)
The Ring (2002) (screenplay)
Impostor (2002) (screenplay)
Reindeer Games (2000) (written by)
Scream 3 (2000) (written by)
New World Disorder (1999) (written by)
Arlington Road (1999) (written by)
Killers in the House (1998) (TV) (written by)

I'm glad to see the rest of the crew back on board. I think one of the worst things that could happen would for #2 to have a totally different feel than #1 (no bathroom jokes now). This is actually great news that they're already putting the team together for #2. We just might see this movie released on June 26th, 2009 afterall.

** Goes to fire off an email to one of the extreme powers that be in this list for consulting position for the movie **


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Postby Briggs » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:15 am

Ultra Magnus wrote:Odd things in the story? Like Megatron DEAD??? Cybertron Completely Dead? The total LACK of any sort of "Re-energizing" for these living robots? I wouldn't call those "odd things". I'd call those GLARING mistakes.

On the other hand, I'm glad that it is the same ppl that wrote the story for the first movie, because they proably have ideas for an overall arc. I knew there would be a 2. Now let's just see how good it is...


Lol.. what? How are those mistakes? They were part of the story, in this continuity. You just don't like parts of it, which is fine, but they are hardly mistakes.

Oddities that I am talking about are things such as the lack of clarification that Ratchets beam was helping heal bumblebee when fired it at him, or why Jazz just sorta sat there in car mode when bumblebee was laying in two pieces, etc.
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Postby Seibertron » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:24 am

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Briggs wrote:
Ultra Magnus wrote:Odd things in the story? Like Megatron DEAD??? Cybertron Completely Dead? The total LACK of any sort of "Re-energizing" for these living robots? I wouldn't call those "odd things". I'd call those GLARING mistakes.

On the other hand, I'm glad that it is the same ppl that wrote the story for the first movie, because they proably have ideas for an overall arc. I knew there would be a 2. Now let's just see how good it is...


Lol.. what? How are those mistakes? They were part of the story, in this continuity. You just don't like parts of it, which is fine, but they are hardly mistakes.

Oddities that I am talking about are things such as the lack of clarification that Ratchets beam was helping heal bumblebee when fired it at him, or why Jazz just sorta sat there in car mode when bumblebee was laying in two pieces, etc.


I like to think that it was Bumblebee's direct contact with the Allspark that fixed his voice box, much like it gave Frenzy his body back. However, this line of thought would have conflicts with other parts of the story, especially if you consider the IDW prequel to be cannon. If I recall correctly, Bumblebee held the AllSpark after Megatron damaged his voice box but it's been since February since I read the prequel comic so I might not be remembering that correctly. Even so, if it was Bumblebee's contact with the AllSpark that fixed his voice, why did it take so long for it to take effect whereas Frenzy got his body back immediately?

The explanation for Jazz is simple: budget restraints. It's cheaper to have him in car mode versus robot or battle mode. It's the most glaring "we need to do this so we don't go over budget" part of the movie to me, though there are plenty of other areas where I can definitely see that they were cost cutting (this isn't a negative comment ... you can see it in all movies from Star Wars to The Departed).
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Postby Seibertron » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:26 am

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trilobitepictures wrote:So Megatron's dead. They killed Superman, Godzilla, Dracula, the Frankenstein's monster, broke Batman's back... wasn't some guy named Optimus Prime dead and buried for a while back?

Here's how the problem's fixed...

EXT. OCEAN FLOOR

CAMERA TRUCKS ALONG THE SEABED. FISH swim about peacefully. CRABS scitter as they hunt for food. We see a large, metalic mass slumped in the darkness. As camera approaches, we see TWO RED LIGHTS FLICKER QUICKLY then BURN STEADILY. It is MEGATRON and HE IS ALIVE!

Ta da! That's the beauty of fiction... you can do ANYTHING!


Bingo. I'm willing to bet that Megatron is most definitely not dead. Of course, if him being dead made room for characters such as Soundwave and Shockwave to get to the big screen, then I might be all right with it as long as they have leadership like roles.
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Postby Briggs » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:41 am

Blozor wrote:A lot of negativity...

They turned what could have been Transformers' shining moment where it once and for all proved to the world to be a deep, complex and epic story into a two-hour version of the 1984 cartoon, only with astoundingly less emphasis on the robots.


Personal opinion, not relevant.

Blozor wrote:The critics gave it slightly higher than mediocre marks because they said it was good for what it is: A two-hour toy commercial. I didn't want it to be a "two-hour toy commerical." I didn't want people to go, "That's what I expected." I wanted people to go, "Wow, I didn't realize there was so much to these toys. Now I see what all the hype was about."


Critics unfortunately don't really matter, unless all the people that went to see Transformers said "Huh, well the critics said it was mediocre, so I'm going to go see it.

Blozor wrote:As far as I'm concerned, they stole our moment of glory and made it into a toy commercial arguably as well-written as the 1980's cartoon.


No worries, doesn't work for everyone!
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Postby Briggs » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:43 am

I was one who went for the AllSpark *curing* him, but I've since jumped the fence and went with Orci's explanation as it makes more sense and doesn't make me think as much :D

I get the whole budget thing, I just think maybe it would have been better to leave JAzz out of that scene directly.. because he looked a bit like a jerk just sitting there :P
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Postby Skowl » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:47 am

Nice to see Orci come back, I always liked the guy, he has a great rapport with the fans.

Ehren Kruger is also an interesting choice, and given his prior work, I think he's a positive addition to the team.

I'm glad they didn't change too much around. When franchises make drastic changes to their horse mid-stream, sometimes the results can be less than satisfactory (see X-Men 3)
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Postby dabattousai » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:59 am

Megatron better be back. He didn't have much screen time nor did the Decepticons get much character developement in the first one.
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Postby Seibertron » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:02 am

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Briggs wrote:
Blozor wrote:The critics gave it slightly higher than mediocre marks because they said it was good for what it is: A two-hour toy commercial. I didn't want it to be a "two-hour toy commerical." I didn't want people to go, "That's what I expected." I wanted people to go, "Wow, I didn't realize there was so much to these toys. Now I see what all the hype was about."


Critics unfortunately don't really matter, unless all the people that went to see Transformers said "Huh, well the critics said it was mediocre, so I'm going to go see it.


Transformers was much more than a 2 hour toy commercial. It was also a 2 hour car commercial and a 2 hour pro-military movie.

It's Transformers folks. What more do you want? Transformers will never have the epic and coherent feel of the Star Wars franchise. I feel like so many of you want Transformers to be treated like Star Wars. It's never going to happen. Transformers was originally conceived as a toyline that was immediately marketed as a comic book and a cartoon. Star Wars was originally conceived as a science fiction fantasy movie first and it became a comic/cartoon/toy series later down the road. Hasbro, a toy company, is in charge of the Transformers brand. Star Wars has George Lucase in charge. Two different agendas. Two different concepts.

Transformers will always be a 30 minute toy commercial. That's what they are.
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Postby Switchpoint » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:06 am

I for one am glad that the same team is in place to do the second one. The first movie is what it is...love it or hate it...there is no changing it. I like the first one, but I can sure respect the opinions of those who don't.
The same team doing the second one will ensure the same feel as the first. I hate it when you have a movie that you like or love, and then the sequel comes out with a totally different director, writer, producer, etc. Most of the time in these instances the movie fails compared to the first one. The feel of the fist one (or 2)is missing. *cough*xmen3*cough*.
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:20 am

I can see what you're saying. I like it when continuity is maintained.
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Postby tile_mcgillus » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:25 am

Seibertron wrote:
Briggs wrote:
Blozor wrote:The critics gave it slightly higher than mediocre marks because they said it was good for what it is: A two-hour toy commercial. I didn't want it to be a "two-hour toy commerical." I didn't want people to go, "That's what I expected." I wanted people to go, "Wow, I didn't realize there was so much to these toys. Now I see what all the hype was about."


Critics unfortunately don't really matter, unless all the people that went to see Transformers said "Huh, well the critics said it was mediocre, so I'm going to go see it.


Transformers was much more than a 2 hour toy commercial. It was also a 2 hour car commercial and a 2 hour pro-military movie.

It's Transformers folks. What more do you want? Transformers will never have the epic and coherent feel of the Star Wars franchise. I feel like so many of you want Transformers to be treated like Star Wars. It's never going to happen. Transformers was originally conceived as a toyline that was immediately marketed as a comic book and a cartoon. Star Wars was originally conceived as a science fiction fantasy movie first and it became a comic/cartoon/toy series later down the road. Hasbro, a toy company, is in charge of the Transformers brand. Star Wars has George Lucase in charge. Two different agendas. Two different concepts.

Transformers will always be a 30 minute toy commercial. That's what they are.


I think you are trying to be a realist. However, It seem more like a case of lowered expectations.
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