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News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:58 pm

Hasbro Toy Shop has two very rare listings on it's Transformers Universe products page.

Hasbro currently has two AFA Graded Nemesis Prime figures for sale, but like every AFA figure, they come at a hefty price.

If you thought paying $50 on eBay for Nemesis Prime was high, think again. You could be paying the following if your "die hard" enough:

TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE Voyager Class: NEMESIS PRIME (AFA Graded 9.0)
Approx. Retail: $ 174.99

This collectible Transformers figure has received a grade of 9.0 based on the AFA Modern Grading Scale. As part of the standard AFA processing, this figure has received an individual label with barcode and has been sealed in a slightly UV-resistant hard acrylic case designed to preserve the figure’s condition for decades to come. The Action Figure Authority (AFA) is considered a worldwide standard when assessing the condition of collectible toys.

TRANSFORMERS UNIVERSE Voyager Class: NEMESIS PRIME (AFA Graded 9.5)
Approx. Retail: $ 274.99

This collectible Transformers figure has received a grade of 9.5 based on the AFA Modern Grading Scale. As part of the standard AFA processing, this figure has received an individual label with barcode and has been sealed in a slightly UV-resistant hard acrylic case designed to preserve the figure’s condition for decades to come. The Action Figure Authority (AFA) is considered a worldwide standard when assessing the condition of collectible toys.

So what do you think? Do you think this exclusive figure is worth it to become even more exclusive for such a price tag?

Care to pick one or both of these figures up? Give it a go by clicking on there respective links below:

Nemesis Prime - AFA 9.0

Nemesis Prime - AFA 9.5

If you're hard pressed to make up your mind, why not check out the world famous Seibertron.com gallery of this dark brooding figure in the Transformers Universe Nemesis Prime image gallery

News Credits: 7 · by **Narc** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:09 pm

What a way to make money, Hasbro. If they handled and packaged our orders well we wouldn't have to spend on an AFA graded item from them. Honestly, I've yet to receive an item that hasn't been damaged from them. :MAD:

News Credits: 5 · by **Barrelass** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:18 pm

Down_Shift wrote:Hasbro Toy Shop has two very rare listings on it's products page.
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Rare only because none of us that ordered a Nemesis prime beleive that it is possible to get a box that they didn't play soccer with in the warehouse. How many boxes do you think they had to get graded to find each 9.0 and 9.5?

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:28 pm

Is the AFA grade still valid after Hasbro Toy Shop ships it to you?

Because there is no way that case isn't going to be damaged during shipping.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:34 pm

Barrelass wrote:Rare only because none of us that ordered a Nemesis prime beleive that it is possible to get a box that they didn't play soccer with in the warehouse. How many boxes do you think they had to get graded to find each 9.0 and 9.5?

Why do you think they played soccer with all the NPs?!? How could they charge 175 and 275 for this scam if they were shipping AFA worthy figs...

News Credits: 12 · by **robofreak** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:47 pm

My NP's box was perfect and I bought from HTS. I also got Skywarp and he came just fine as well.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:51 pm

Wait, did they sell already.

News Credits: 1 · by **TankedThomas** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:06 am

Wow, nice scam, Hasbro, you stupidly retarded gorillas. Ok, who comes up with this stuff? There must be some loser that comes up with this rubbish.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:15 am

That's funny. The one my wife got me for my birthday for $20 was in fine condition. Of course, her hiding it in the closet with a lamp stacked on top of it probably didn't do it any good, but it still looks fine to me.

Oh well, I'll probably throw away the box anyway.

News Credits: 38 · by **TheMuffin** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:33 am

robofreak wrote:My NP's box was perfect and I bought from HTS. I also got Skywarp and he came just fine as well.

Same here. I ordered.... A few. And none of them are damaged. A couple of them are actually mint, one with barely a scuff on the window.

Don't blame Hasbro people. Blame the guys at your postal service who "don't get paid enough".

News Credits: 1 · by **Solrac333** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:52 am

I don't see the point of this.

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:58 am

Sheesh! What is it with AFA grading? Do people really care? I could see AFA Grading things that will be kept MISB like a G1 Optimus Prime. But the newest Nemesis Prime? You might as well AFA grade a BotCon set, which is supposed to be opened and displayed. :roll:

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:00 am

They actually found one that wasnt halfway destroyed? Wow didnt think that was even possible. But the real question is if you buy it will it arrive in that condition? Out of all the orders i got from hasbro ive gotten 1 figure that was in near mint condition. I guess the 3 other figures in the box protected it. And the bad part was i was planing on opening that particular figure anyway so it didnt matter.

News Credits: 5 · by **Barrelass** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:04 am

TheMuffin wrote:
Don't blame Hasbro people. Blame the guys at your postal service who "don't get paid enough".

I don't think the postal service packed them in a big box with only two of the airbags as padding so that the two NPs would slide all over the place. Sad thing is that Hasbro uses some pretty heavy duty cardboard boxes to ship them, and more often then not my orders have come out in great condition. But of course the one time I order an extra figure they decide to mangle both of the boxes.

by **SJ21** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:45 am

I don't know, I don't think I would have the self-control to have a toy in a box. It seems like a waste to me to have a toy just sitting there.

Are these really that rare and collectable already to justify that price?

News Credits: 1 · by **Solrac333** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:57 am

If the figure was die cast metal with rubber wheels, more articulation and only a few made, then it might be worth that price.

News Credits: 9 · by **Zeds** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:24 pm

I saw someone trying to sell these on eBay and he barely got $40 US for it. One should AFA vintage items or exceptionally exclusive ones limited to less than 100 pieces. Not items like this.

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:29 pm

I've only had a few items from HTS and never had any problems, but I always buy to open anyway so if there was a small crease in the upper left corner of the back of the card or box, I wouldn't have noticed anyway.

It isn't just HTS that people complain about this way, people grumble the same way about Toysrus and all the other "huge" companies that process a lot of orders.

If you want insanely super mint packages, the best bet is still local dealers and hobby shops (if you have any in your area)

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:25 pm

Something doesn't sit well with me. A while ago I read a FAQ on Hasbro.com where they were asked for the value of an item and stated that it is company policy to not put value on vintage toys. So by selling these AFA graded items aren't they applying a value to them?

News Credits: 5 · by **Sledge** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:23 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something doesn't sit well with me. A while ago I read a FAQ on Hasbro.com where they were asked for the value of an item and stated that it is company policy to not put value on vintage toys. So by selling these AFA graded items aren't they applying a value to them?

The clue is in your question.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:00 pm

Sledge wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Something doesn't sit well with me. A while ago I read a FAQ on Hasbro.com where they were asked for the value of an item and stated that it is company policy to not put value on vintage toys. So by selling these AFA graded items aren't they applying a value to them?

The clue is in your question.

Here's a thought, is a toy that is almost 6 months old vintage? Some sites make up toys a few waves old declaring them vintage so by that train of thought isn't Nemessis Prime considered vintage too? I wish I could remember where exactly Hasbro put that Q and A so I could quote from it exactly.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:07 pm

Now they're selling AFA graded Alternators Rodimus figures...
I'd be interested in buying a non-AFA Rodimus from them.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:25 pm

NotEnoughKibble wrote:Now they're selling AFA graded Alternators Rodimus figures...
I'd be interested in buying a non-AFA Rodimus from them.

Hmm, I wonder if they're just trying to clear out old stock that they can't sell.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kibble** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:53 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hmm, I wonder if they're just trying to clear out old stock that they can't sell.

I don't think so...these haven't been available on HTS for some time now. Like I said, I know I'd buy one from them for retail. I would bet they'd sell pretty damn quick if a limited supply was listed at $25 a pop... But why sell at $25 when you can AFA them and attempt to sell them for 150 or 225?