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News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:43 am

The Planet Iacon Facebook page has posted a supposed leaked image from the card for another Optimus Prime figure from the upcoming movie line! We had seen the Leader class toy before, but here we get a look at something a little different, at least in the size and shape of the sword and shield. Check it out below!

News Credits: 4 · by **Megazarak** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:55 am

He's definitely different from the previously seen Optimus. He seems a bit better. Huge backpack though. I also wonder if that 15 steps thing is for him or something else (edit: seems like it might be for Grimlock; edit again: or not, Grimlock's name is written all over the place). It'd make sense, considering they probably don't want Leader Optimus to be nearly as complicated as RotF Prime.

News Credits: 9 · by **Hip-Hoptimus Rime** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:59 am

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:03 pm

Not sure if CGI render or toy with amazing lighting...

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:15 pm

Looks pretty cool

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by **EagleTron** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:20 pm

I see how they got 15 steps boldly printed. Just imagine if they had tried that with rotf leader Optimus. It would have said "to many steps to count". :lol:

by **Lord Manhammer '74** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:29 pm

I like it. Anyone else here also getting a steam punk vibe from looking at this ? Also looks like he's sporting the Enterprise's saucer section as a shield.

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:36 pm

Lord Manhammer '74 wrote:I like it. Anyone else here also getting a steam punk vibe from looking at this ? Also looks like he's sporting the Enterprise's saucer section as a shield.

Hehe, yeah, I see what you mean regarding the steampunk thing. It also reminds me of Rodimus a bit because of those pipes. It's a neat look for Optimus.

I'm still undecided on whether I'm going to buy any more movie toys, but I do like the direction they're going in so far.

by **Rated X** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:40 pm

Im so sick of swords, shields, battle axes, etc. Bring back the guns...

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:42 pm

Looks a bit shell-former-ish, a lot like movie 1 voyager prime.

I actually liked that mold, even though it looked nothing like he did in the movie. <shrug>

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:44 pm

Rated X wrote:Im so sick of swords, shields, battle axes, etc. Bring back the guns...

Yeah, I agree. I never could get used to the idea of futuristic alien robots using melee weapons. Guns/blasters/missile launchers/lasers etc. has always been my preference in most cases (though stuff like blades attached to/built into arms etc. are OK by me

).

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:00 pm

xyl360 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Im so sick of swords, shields, battle axes, etc. Bring back the guns...

Yeah, I agree. I never could get used to the idea of futuristic alien robots using melee weapons.

Yeah, because the idea of transforming robot aliens using melee weapons is silly.

:roll:

News Credits: 4 · by **Megazarak** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:04 pm

On the discussion of weapons, I do like melee weapons, but a shield and sword is taking it a bit far as primary weapons. But if they were relics, like the Star Saber and the Skyboom Shield, that are only used once in a while, then that's cool. A shield does make a lot of sense though, blocking gunfire (which are still the primary weapons of TFs overall) and can be used as a weapon. The thing about blasters though is that more often than not, most of the Transformers can tank quite a few shots (not to mention they rarely get hit), because as their blasters get more dangerous, you have to assume that their armour gets stronger as well. On the other hand, melee weapons are always generally assumed to cut everything (just look at Star Wars, Jedi use lightsabers which not only cut through just about everything, but in the right hands are a superior weapon to blasters. hm, though you'd think using a bunch of blasters with the force would be a crazy amount of firepower. anyways), and when it comes to a close quarters fight, a melee weapon would be way better. Just look at the RotF fight scene. Dual sword Optimus tearing through the 3 Cons using their own guns against them, and what not.

But ya, I like melee weapons and I'm happy we're getting lots of them. On characters like Grimlock who's heavily armoured and super strong they're a fine primary weapon, but for the most part it's better if they're the swap out of a long range weapon, which is usually the ideal weapon set.

by **Lord Manhammer '74** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:07 pm

Maybe Hasbro, Speilberg, and Paramount are worried that if the kids see guns. The children will go nuts ,and start thinking it's a good idea to shoot up their schools. :HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:12 pm

Megazarak wrote:and when it comes to a close quarters fight, a melee weapon would be way better. Just look at the RotF fight scene. Dual sword Optimus tearing through the 3 Cons using their own guns against them, and what not.

That's a great point. If all the TFs used guns solely, you'd never even see Autobots and Decepticons on the screen together. They'd be a mile apart, firing laser blasts back and forth.

If you want to apply "logic", they wouldn't even shoot at each other. They'd realize it would be much safer to stay safe in their base and fight each other with remote-controlled or autonomous drones. So let's see a TF cartoon where the TFs all sit in UAV control rooms all day. There's your "realistic" Transformers.

News Credits: 1 · by **Flakmaster** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:13 pm

SHELLFORMERS

LESS THAN APPEALS TO THE EYE

SHELLFORMERS

ROBOTS IN FETAL POSITIONS BENEATH VEHICLES

I must say, I do like the looks of his sword and shield, though. It's nice to see some silver detailing on transparent plastic, instead of a monochrome, dull translucent orange weapon like on ROTF leader Prime's blades.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:26 pm

Not bad! But I don't see anything dethroning ROTF OP in my display anytime soon. I'm reluctant to buy any more Bayverse figures unless they're really cool or represent a G1 character, so I might be largely skipping this line. Grimlock and 'Hound' will hopefully be good enough to warrant a purchase.

by **SG Roadbuster** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:27 pm

on the subject of melee weapons, I like them. you get a much more dynamic fight scene using melee weapons than ye do a gunfight. just compare any given western to any given samurai film. similar plot and characters (sometimes identical yojimbo/fist full of dollars)
that said, i wish we'd see more variety in melee weapons we've seen plenty of swords and shields, and axes. where are the spears and halberds? where are the throwing knives/stars, where are the nunchuku, scythes, hammers, and whips?

also, the figure looks pretty badass, the optimistic half of my cautious optimism is growing.

by **griftimus prime** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:47 pm

cool

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:51 pm

the sword looks cool but thats about it, i still think this is the worst looking optimus model to date and that backpack kills it even more. And seeing that 15 step thing worries me, im all for easy & quick transformations but not at the cost of s potentially great figure & sometimes over complicated will make a crap figure grand. Also curious as to what class this figure is, cant be leader cause we've seen that so maybe voyager? Weapons are to detailed for deluxe.

by **onewaydown** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:03 pm

Why does all the background stuff talk about Grimlock? "Grimlock Class 01 Destroyer" and the pic of the dino head up on the top left and foot over to the bottom left. Might be a sword/axe behind his left leg.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:10 pm

onewaydown wrote:Why does all the background stuff talk about Grimlock? "Grimlock Class 01 Destroyer" and the pic of the dino head up on the top left and foot over to the bottom left. Might be a sword/axe behind his left leg.

Despite what the OP says, I'm guessing this picture appears on the packaging for the Grimlock figure, not "another OP". TF packaging doesn't typically advertise figures from other size classes, so I doubt you'd see a picture of one OP on the packaging for a different OP.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:14 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
onewaydown wrote:Why does all the background stuff talk about Grimlock? "Grimlock Class 01 Destroyer" and the pic of the dino head up on the top left and foot over to the bottom left. Might be a sword/axe behind his left leg.

Despite what the OP says, I'm guessing this picture appears on the packaging for the Grimlock figure, not "another OP". TF packaging doesn't typically advertise figures from other size classes, so I doubt you'd see a picture of one OP on the packaging for a different OP.

That is a very distinct possibility. Unfortunately it was posted as is, with no additional information.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:25 pm

Va'al wrote:That is a very distinct possibility. Unfortunately it was posted as is, with no additional information.

Just FYI: I wasn't accusing you of posting false information. I only meant to point out that the description of where this picture came from (your source) might be incorrect. I don't want you to think I was, like, calling you out or anything.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:29 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Va'al wrote:That is a very distinct possibility. Unfortunately it was posted as is, with no additional information.

Just FYI: I wasn't accusing you of posting false information. I only meant to point out that the description of where this picture came from (your source) might be incorrect. I don't want you to think I was, like, calling you out or anything.

Oh, I know, not to worry! Just clarifying why I wrote what I wrote.

The packaging, in fact, even claims Grimlock's class is Destroyer - whether this is a new size class or 'in-story' tech spec, I do not know. :-?