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Tytus wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:Which reminded me: If The Fallen was imprisoned, and the other Primes gave their Sparks to hide The Matrix, then where did Optimus came from? If The Primes destroyed themselves how can they have a descendant?

A "Prime" had a child before he died.

Then it wouldn't be impossible for other Primes to exist, right? Known or unknown, if Optimus is out there other descendants may be alive as well.

Yes, but supposedly Optimus and Megatron were brothers, so they had the same father. Then Megatron killed their father and stole his spark.
This all does not add up.

Tytus wrote:Then it wouldn't be impossible for other Primes to exist, right?

According to the Primes ghosts in the last film it would be impossible.

While others may not be known to Optimus or the Fallen, its not possible for there to be any UNKNOWN" Primes to the Ghost of the other Primes.

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

Tytus wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:Which reminded me: If The Fallen was imprisoned, and the other Primes gave their Sparks to hide The Matrix, then where did Optimus came from? If The Primes destroyed themselves how can they have a descendant?

A "Prime" had a child before he died.

Then it wouldn't be impossible for other Primes to exist, right? Known or unknown, if Optimus is out there other descendants may be alive as well.

Yes, but supposedly Optimus and Megatron were brothers, so they had the same father. Then Megatron killed their father and stole his spark.
This all does not add up.

It does add up. No one ever said Megatron stole his spark. He just kiled his parents. One of the first Primes had a child, then every decendant after that was a Prime, but no one know. Then, we get to Optimus and they discover that he is a Prime.

OptiMagnus10 wrote:Yes, but supposedly Optimus and Megatron were brothers, so they had the same father. Then Megatron killed their father and stole his spark.
This all does not add up.

I hate to tell you but thats info from the game.

Its never been explained what kind of "brothers" Prime and Megs were.

They never said they were siblings with the same father in the films.

The info from games and comics arent always canon with the films

SlyTF1 wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

Tytus wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:Which reminded me: If The Fallen was imprisoned, and the other Primes gave their Sparks to hide The Matrix, then where did Optimus came from? If The Primes destroyed themselves how can they have a descendant?

A "Prime" had a child before he died.

Then it wouldn't be impossible for other Primes to exist, right? Known or unknown, if Optimus is out there other descendants may be alive as well.

Yes, but supposedly Optimus and Megatron were brothers, so they had the same father. Then Megatron killed their father and stole his spark.
This all does not add up.

It does add up. No one ever said Megatron stole his spark. He just kiled his parents. One of the first Primes had a child, then every decendant after that was a Prime, but no one know. Then, we get to Optimus and they discover that he is a Prime.

Yeah that's probably the best explanation so far.

Several sites are saying that the Mack truck is Megatron: the demented form of Optimus.

Someone probably already said this but I went from page one to 6 so..

starscream2222 wrote:Several sites are saying that the Mack truck is Megatron: the demented form of Optimus.

Someone probably already said this but I went from page one to 6 so..

Actually, this is the first time I've seen it on this thread. But that is an interesting theory.

Albershide wrote:Here is something like a visual confirmation of who is who of some of the new characters we've seen on set so far (not confirmed):



SHOCKWAVE

Shockwave.jpg

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What is that thing anyway? Is it some sort of an experimental bomber or assault aircraft?

Zombie Starscream wrote:

starscream2222 wrote:Several sites are saying that the Mack truck is Megatron: the demented form of Optimus.

Someone probably already said this but I went from page one to 6 so..

Actually, this is the first time I've seen it on this thread. But that is an interesting theory.

Yes, I saw the the "demented form of Optimus" theory is on the DOTM Wikipedia page. They seem to officially confirm the truck is Megatron, but of course, Wikipedia isn't 100% reliable.
Also, this theory could also bring up the possibilty of the truck being an evil Optimus Prime clone, too.

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

Zombie Starscream wrote:

starscream2222 wrote:Several sites are saying that the Mack truck is Megatron: the demented form of Optimus.

Someone probably already said this but I went from page one to 6 so..

Actually, this is the first time I've seen it on this thread. But that is an interesting theory.

Yes, I saw the the "demented form of Optimus" theory is on the DOTM Wikipedia page. They seem to officially confirm the truck is Megatron, but of course, Wikipedia isn't 100% reliable.
Also, this theory could also bring up the possibilty of the truck being an evil Optimus Prime clone, too.

If it was an evil clone of OP, then wouldn't it be like Optimus himself? Maybe with only some minor differings like colour scheme or somethin'?

Tough I was sure that Meg's wouldn't take an Earth's altmode, it's actually more believable to me that the Mack-truck is Megatron, rather than Optimus's evil clone

Red 50 wrote:If it was an evil clone of OP, then wouldn't it be like Optimus himself? Maybe with only some minor differings like colour scheme or somethin'?

Theres no reason it would have to be so.

Zn the RID series, Scourge was a clone [of sorts] of Optimus, and other thern having a similar face they really shared no other similarities.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:If it was an evil clone of OP, then wouldn't it be like Optimus himself? Maybe with only some minor differings like colour scheme or somethin'?

Theres no reason it would have to be so.

Zn the RID series, Scourge was a clone [of sorts] of Optimus, and other thern having a similar face they really shared no other similarities.

Yes, there is no reason that the clone has to take on the identical alt-mode, because he could scan any vehicle he wanted with a suitable size. Also, in addition to RID Scourge, Universe Nemesis Prime also was a clone of Optimus, but had a wooly mammoth beast alt mode instead of a truck that Optimus had.

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:If it was an evil clone of OP, then wouldn't it be like Optimus himself? Maybe with only some minor differings like colour scheme or somethin'?

Theres no reason it would have to be so.

Zn the RID series, Scourge was a clone [of sorts] of Optimus, and other thern having a similar face they really shared no other similarities.

Yes, there is no reason that the clone has to take on the identical alt-mode, because he could scan any vehicle he wanted with a suitable size. Also, in addition to RID Scourge, Universe Nemesis Prime also was a clone of Optimus, but had a wooly mammoth beast alt mode instead of a truck that Optimus had.

Well, sorry. I'm not an expert on these matters.

Red 50 wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:If it was an evil clone of OP, then wouldn't it be like Optimus himself? Maybe with only some minor differings like colour scheme or somethin'?

Theres no reason it would have to be so.

Zn the RID series, Scourge was a clone [of sorts] of Optimus, and other thern having a similar face they really shared no other similarities.

Yes, there is no reason that the clone has to take on the identical alt-mode, because he could scan any vehicle he wanted with a suitable size. Also, in addition to RID Scourge, Universe Nemesis Prime also was a clone of Optimus, but had a wooly mammoth beast alt mode instead of a truck that Optimus had.

Well, sorry. I'm not an expert on these matters.

I was just suggesting that he does not have to be absolutely identical, I'm not trying to be rude. Maybe the clone would be identical at his creation, but he could change into whatever he wanted to afterward. He would probably still have identical facial features and be the same size, though, as history shows.