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News Credits: 12 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:54 pm

And judging from Tigatrons legs and the tailwhip weapon, it looks like he's unfortunately just an upscaled Cheetor

I'm happy he's voyager though, hopefully he's beefy enough. The headsculpt is gonna be my main concern

News Credits: 42 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:56 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like tigatron will unfortunately also have a tailwhip instead of guns

Not necessarily. Leakers have stated that A. Tigatron has his guns and B. that he was originally a Deluxe Cheetor repaint until he moved up to Voyager to replace the now-cut Polar Claw. This artwork could have been made back when he was a Cheetor repaint and they never bothered to change it.

News Credits: 12 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:10 pm

Autobot N wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Looks like tigatron will unfortunately also have a tailwhip instead of guns
Not necessarily. Leakers have stated that A. Tigatron has his guns and B. that he was originally a Deluxe Cheetor repaint until he moved up to Voyager to replace the now-cut Polar Claw. This artwork could have been made back when he was a Cheetor repaint and they never bothered to change it.

That is absolutely wonderful
I hope you're right
RIP to Polar Claw though I wouldve loved him

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:29 pm

While we got a pretty good look at upcoming Transformers Kingdom deluxe Waspinator, we had yet to see anything of voyager Tigatron, and deluxes Slammer, Pipes and Shadow Panther. Well, the official Transformers website updated their Kingdom character line ups to include every remaining toy in the line so we now have artwork for all of them. While the Tigatron does look to be based on the Cheetor toy, remember that we were informed by people in the know that he was chosen to be a voyager later in the game, so this artwork might instead be representing how he looked like before that decision.

Slammer appears to be a completely new mold, which is in line with what we had heard. He is supposed to disassemble into 8 separate weapons and also turn into a tower that is compatible with 2013 Metroplex.

News Credits: 56 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:32 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:That is absolutely wonderful
I hope you're right
RIP to Polar Claw though I wouldve loved him

Kind of fitting, as Tigatron was a replacement for Polar Claw in the original animated series as well

. Tigatron quickly became my favorite character in S1. I never really identified with any of the Original 10, but the stoic loner, that is still loyal to, and assists his friends is a quality I relate to. The ironic part is, I really like polar bears as well, and part of me wishes there was another universe where we got the exact same show, but everything that makes up Tigatron, had just been Polar Claw instead.

(Polarhawk in s3 heh....)

Also, aside from box art, and a Slammer description, do we have WFC numbers yet for these wave 4 toys?

News Credits: 23 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:34 pm

Tigatron is definitely a Voyager based upon his price. Before the last reveals none of the items had images and then once revealed the order pages were updated with content.

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News Credits: 4877 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:34 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:
The figure can be transformed into a tower compatible with the 2013 Metroplex figure (sold separately, subject to availability)

That does sound dumb since Hasbro is not releasing one concurrently.

Anyways, am I the only one who feels they already saw that image of shadow panther? Maybe because it's the same pose as on the original Beast Wars Tigatron box

News Credits: 462 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:51 pm

william-james88 wrote:Anyways, am I the only one who feels they already saw that image of shadow panther? Maybe because it's the same pose as on the original Beast Wars Tigatron box

No it's not.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:53 pm

I didn't even know they made online bios for these guys. If they write them up anyway, why not print them on the boxes? Also, I found it funny the site has a couple of errors. Wheeljack has a duplicate of Arcee's bio instead of one of his own. Pipes has Nemesis Prime as his portrait when you unfold his bio.

Very glad that Shadow Panther gets a mutant head! And Tigatron's bio says his weapon is a "Quasar cannon", so hopefully that means he'll come with his guns, although the fact that his art has him holding his tail as a whip worries me a bit.

News Credits: 12 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:54 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:That is absolutely wonderful
I hope you're right
RIP to Polar Claw though I wouldve loved him

Kind of fitting, as Tigatron was a replacement for Polar Claw in the original animated series as well . Tigatron quickly became my favorite character in S1. I never really identified with any of the Original 10, but the stoic loner, that is still loyal to, and assists his friends is a quality I relate to. The ironic part is, I really like polar bears as well, and part of me wishes there was another universe where we got the exact same show, but everything that makes up Tigatron, had just been Polar Claw instead. (Polarhawk in s3 heh....)

Also, aside from box art, and a Slammer description, do we have WFC numbers yet for these wave 4 toys?

Tigatron is a favorite of mine for more sentimental reasons; I ordered the Japanese anniversary tigatron figure on toybiz (or toywiz or something like that) when I was around 10 or 11 as a reward for getting straight As on my report cards. And I was absolutely ecstatic when he arrived. I remember because I was at HEB plus and I'd just gotten a cookies and cream flavored paleta from La Paleteria next door. And I watched the DVD with his first appearance in the cartoon, not understanding a word of what was being said. And I still have him, he's great. Tiger was my favorite animal growing up, mostly because I was born in the year of the tiger in the Chinese calendar and I was into that at the time haha
I think he was the first toy I ever ordered online, too

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:55 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Anyways, am I the only one who feels they already saw that image of shadow panther? Maybe because it's the same pose as on the original Beast Wars Tigatron box
No it's not.

life is not all black and white bro, looks similar enough, it's not like my memory is picture perfect.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:01 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:That is absolutely wonderful
I hope you're right
RIP to Polar Claw though I wouldve loved him

Kind of fitting, as Tigatron was a replacement for Polar Claw in the original animated series as well . Tigatron quickly became my favorite character in S1. I never really identified with any of the Original 10, but the stoic loner, that is still loyal to, and assists his friends is a quality I relate to. The ironic part is, I really like polar bears as well, and part of me wishes there was another universe where we got the exact same show, but everything that makes up Tigatron, had just been Polar Claw instead. (Polarhawk in s3 heh....)

Also, aside from box art, and a Slammer description, do we have WFC numbers yet for these wave 4 toys?

So... we could have had a transmetal Owlbear... damn... that would have been amazing.

Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:14 pm

"...updated their Kingdom character line ups to include every remaining toy in the line so we now have artwork for all of them"

Wait... so there ISN'T going to be a Terrorsaur, Tarantulas, or ant Inferno? This upcoming wave is the last one?

News Credits: 51 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:25 pm

Well, this'll be the first wave where I actually grab everything. Tigatron is a must, Pipes, Slammer, and Shadow Panther all look great, and Waspinator's beast mode and slight Animated influenced colors have won me over.

It is hilarious that Hasbro is showing these before Wave 3 is even fully out though and probably at least a month or two before they get revealed, and yet keep complaining about stuff getting leaked.

o.supreme wrote:Also, aside from box art, and a Slammer description, do we have WFC numbers yet for these wave 4 toys?

I believe the Amazon listings updated when the Draculus and Amazon Prime ones got updated, Jtprime posted screenshots on TFW at least, so we're looking at:
K1-K30: Waves 1-3 + Commander + Titan
K31: Shadow Panther
K32: Pipes
K33: Slammer
K34: Waspinator
K35: Tigatron
K36: ???
K37: T-Wrecks
K38: Red Alert
K39: Tricranius & Blast Effects
K40: Mirage & Grimlock
K41: ???
K42: Sideswipe & Skywarp
K43-K??: ???

Figures we know are coming with no number yet: Road Rage, Blaster, ER Starscream repack, Kingdom 4-pack, Golden Disc figures (which might not be numbered, since the Galactic Odyssey sets weren't)

News Credits: 14 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:30 pm

Hmm, interesting. Does that mean Shadow Panther is getting the Cheetor mutant head rather than regular Cheetor head?

Would that open the possibility of a Selects Cheetor with Mutant head? Or maybe 2 heads in the box?

Hasbro wouldn't give us a mutant head, and not let us use it on Cheetor right? Right!?

also, that just makes me want a Primal Mutant head for some reason.

News Credits: 56 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:35 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:Well, this'll be the first wave where I actually grab everything. Tigatron is a must, Pipes, Slammer, and Shadow Panther all look great, and Waspinator's beast mode and slight Animated influenced colors have won me over.

It is hilarious that Hasbro is showing these before Wave 3 is even fully out though and probably at least a month or two before they get revealed, and yet keep complaining about stuff getting leaked.

o.supreme wrote:Also, aside from box art, and a Slammer description, do we have WFC numbers yet for these wave 4 toys?
I believe the Amazon listings updated when the Draculus and Amazon Prime ones got updated, Jtprime posted screenshots on TFW at least, so we're looking at:
K1-K30: Waves 1-3 + Commander + Titan
K31: Shadow Panther
K32: Pipes
K33: Slammer
K34: Waspinator
K35: Tigatron
K36: ???
K37: T-Wrecks
K38: Red Alert
K39: Tricranius & Blast Effects
K40: Mirage & Grimlock
K41: ???
K42: Sideswipe & Skywarp
K43-K??: ???

Figures we know are coming with no number yet: Road Rage, Blaster, ER Starscream repack, Kingdom 4-pack, Golden Disc figures (which might not be numbered, since the Galactic Odyssey sets weren't)

Thank you. I'm fairly certain there will be some event in July (Transformers FFF?) where these will be revealed, possibly with more SS, and the SG Jetfire. Also I forgot about the ER Starscream repack, that will probably be 36. I was actually hoping for Inferno to get repacked with wave 4, as he is extremely hard to get. BBTS just got him in stock, so if you want Inferno, better get it now. I've seen Dinobot multiple times, but Never Inferno at retail. But with a *possible* 5th wave, maybe they can repack him in with Blaster?

Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:55 pm

I feel like the WFC Trilogy started off strong and now it's just weakly puttering out. Canceled figures, repacks, not even five waves...They really should've just finished the G1 cast this year and give the BW characters their own year. I'm not even a big Beast Wars guy but the lack of some of the best characters in the show just feels so lazy. Like, we're getting a Slammer 7 years late but no Tarantulas??

Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:00 pm

Wave 5. Yeah, good luck ever finding that at retail! :lol:

Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:02 pm

TFfan1 wrote: Like, we're getting a Slammer 7 years late but no Tarantulas??

That's a good point. I mean, we're about ready for a whole new Metroplex at this point. Preferably one that has ramps that actually make sense.

Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:04 pm

Slammer doesn't look to be a completely new mold. It looks like it shares a few pieces with another figure not unlike Brunt and Airwave or some of the later TR figures. Not a retool or a reshell, just a few reused skeletal parts.

The parts that stand out so far are the thighs of Slammer. Those are from Ironworks. The angle of them coming up from the knee, the pistons molded into the top sides, the cavities on the sides of them, the notches on the knees. It's exactly like Ironworks. Maybe even the biceps are reused from the crane arm but that would require using two of them as Slammer's arms look to be symmetrical but Ironworks' arms aren't. The chest peg could be reused but you can't tell from the artwork if Slammer has one for sure.

I know people are going nuts right now trying to figure out if Autobot JP93 came from another figure instead of being a new mold. However, at least the thighs of Slammer as seen in the artwork are based on Ironworks. The wiki doesn't even mention that Brunt and Airwave/Hot House share parts so most people probably don't even realize it for them. It could be the same here. We'll just have to wait a bit longer until someone manages to obtain one somehow to be certain.

Turrets...I mean Slammer looks good though. I wonder if they tried to work in an official combined mode between him and Sixgun and maybe Cog. It's obvious they didn't think of that to begin with but they could've designed Slammer's parts to fit perfectly with the other two to make a cohesive combiner between them.

Maybe there's plans to redo Scamper as a Weaponizer. There's that leak for a Metroplex drone three pack so it is possible that Scamper might be remade. Maybe that's where the combiner will come from if they do it. Sixgun, Slammer and a new Scamper will all combine. Then they can do one for Tripticon which would be Brunt, a new Full Tilt and maybe a new Wipe-Out that is it's own design instead of being based on Windcharger.

News Credits: 42 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:05 pm

TFfan1 wrote:Canceled figures

Every single line has figures that don't make the cut, Hasbro just doesn't tell us about it (like Titan Master Optimus Primal and Toraizer, and Generations Hardhead from Warpath). The only reason we know Polar Claw and Gears were ever planned is because of that artwork Hasbro put out at Pulsecon, and leakers elaborated to tell us we weren't actually getting them.

repacks

All three lines have had repacks.

not even five waves

Siege and Kingdom both have 5 waves, with Earthrise having 3. Hasbro switched to shorter lines after Titans Return so they could always have a brand new wave of product at the start of the year, but it seems that Siege and Kingdom in particular were successful enough to warrant having another wave tacked on.

Like, we're getting a Slammer 7 years late but no Tarantulas??

Leaks say Tarantulas is coming next year.

News Credits: 101 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:18 pm

TFfan1 wrote:I feel like the WFC Trilogy started off strong and now it's just weakly puttering out. Canceled figures, repacks, not even five waves...They really should've just finished the G1 cast this year and give the BW characters their own year. I'm not even a big Beast Wars guy but the lack of some of the best characters in the show just feels so lazy. Like, we're getting a Slammer 7 years late but no Tarantulas??

You can tanks the domino effect of COVID + lockdowns + looming international conflicts with China for this.

Hell, even the Scorponok reissue have been pushed back by a month at Pulse.

You know, I miss the good old days of well stocked shelves, so much that sales happened often. I have some Toys R Us coupons. 10$ off if you buy for 50$, 25$ off if you buy for 100$... BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO BUY. And the only things worth buying are excluded from the coupons.

:BANG_HEAD:

Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:29 pm

I admit I'm also a little bitter at how spread thin I feel like the brand has gotten. We used to have just one line, and that line was where all the budget and effort went. Now, we have what, four lines going on at once? Honestly, I wish Hasbro would put Generations on hold for a few years, give us a new series that can be the central franchise for a while, and move things forward.

News Credits: 251 · Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:37 pm

Pipes looks perfect, as does Slammer. Consider me onboard with those two. I’d have to see more of Tigatron before I fully commit, but I’ll probably still get him to complete the cast. Shadow Panther just doesn’t do it for me, I appreciate they used the mutant mask from the original toy line but it’s butt ugly to me. Waspinator is… Waspinator, I suppose. He’s already been leaked so nothing new here.