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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:11 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Ben Yee, TFU.info, Vangelus, and Allspark.com are so far confirmed to have been in the conference call. Wonder who else?


Brian K, Jeremy D, Greg K, Rodimus Primal, DJ P, BaCon, TFW2005, and the rest you mentioned


*edit*, since it has been revealed that Blaster is WFC-K44, that begs the question, who is K36, and K43? I know a repackage or ER Starscream was rumored early on, perhaps this is still happening (though it would be odd being on the shelf around the same time as Leader SS86 Coronation Starscream) . Even if it is, that still leaves one slot open...
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Kingdom Blaster Revealed Plus Details About Wave 5

Postby william-james88 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:59 pm

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Many fans were hoping for some sort of announcement for Blaster, or at least some info as to what Kingdom wave 5 was all about. Well, now we know. Mark, Hasbro's Transformers designer, had a short Zoom call with some members of the fan community where he revealed Kingdom voyager Blaster. We have images from the call as well as official photos. The call photos are from Ben Yee's Twitter. We learnt that Kingdom wave 5 is indeed happening. The anticipated date for release is January 1st 2022. It will be released in stores and on online stores but there are no scheduled preorders. This is for the entirety of wave 5 (which we are assuming includes Pipes and Slammer). Kingdom would thus make up the first quarter of 2022 so the soonest to see Legacy toys would be second quarter 2022 (April 1st).
The only other info of note that happened during this call was the confirmation that Menasor had its own combiner system and was not scramble city.

Back to Blaster, he is a new mold and comes with a clear plastic Eject, which makes him fit well with the overall Energon accessories gimmick of Legacy, where he will be rereleased.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby bluecatcinema » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:01 pm

Ooh, not bad.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:22 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:24 pm

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Blaster looks solid, I would have preferred an actual vehicle mode but I understand that that was never in the cards unless he was a Siege figure. Included Eject is great too, nice to see he isn't entirely clear (and it looks like he reuses the Siege Frumbles feet), so this looks like a solid get to me.

The fact that Eject:
-is more posable that the Siege Frumbles,
-doesn't have an obligatory 5 mm peg taking up space/tooling costs, and most importantly
-has what looks like 5 mm ports on the arms,
looks to me like more credence to my theory that the SS86 Rumble is gonna be that Eject mold but retooled to match Rumble and bearing accessories like piledrivers (that would provide a use to those arm ports).

o.supreme wrote:*edit*, since it has been revealed that Blaster is WFC-K44, that begs the question, who is K36, and K43? I know a repackage or ER Starscream was rumored early on, perhaps this is still happening (though it would be odd being on the shelf around the same time as Leader SS86 Coronation Starscream) . Even if it is, that still leaves one slot open...
Oooh, the plot thickens...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Immortal Starscream » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:43 pm

AHHH, a breath of fresh air. This truly made my day. cant wait to get this guy
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby mech_dh » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:44 pm

I think he looks great. Though I hope they ultimately release Polar Claw. Been itching for that figure ever since I saw the Kingdom illustration
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:44 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:*edit*, since it has been revealed that Blaster is WFC-K44, that begs the question, who is K36, and K43? I know a repackage or ER Starscream was rumored early on, perhaps this is still happening (though it would be odd being on the shelf around the same time as Leader SS86 Coronation Starscream) . Even if it is, that still leaves one slot open...
Oooh, the plot thickens...

My bet is that one of the unused numbers was Voyager Starscream and will not be used just like E28 was supposed to be earth Sidwswipe and got bumped and unused. Not sure on the other though.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby RiddlerJ » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:50 pm

Why do they keep using all this clear plastic? :-(
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:53 pm

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Pretty generous to include Eject with Blaster as a VOYAGER. I wa sure because of the cassette, the set would be sold at leader price.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:22 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Pretty generous to include Eject with Blaster as a VOYAGER. I wa sure because of the cassette, the set would be sold at leader price.


Even more generous, it's Kingdom/Legacy so it's not a £35 voyager like SS voyagers are over here. Definitely picking him up
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:29 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:*edit*, since it has been revealed that Blaster is WFC-K44, that begs the question, who is K36, and K43? I know a repackage or ER Starscream was rumored early on, perhaps this is still happening (though it would be odd being on the shelf around the same time as Leader SS86 Coronation Starscream) . Even if it is, that still leaves one slot open...
Oooh, the plot thickens...

My bet is that one of the unused numbers was Voyager Starscream and will not be used just like E28 was supposed to be earth Sidwswipe and got bumped and unused. Not sure on the other though.
...I know someone mentioned this Sideswipe theory before and a lot of people believe it to be true, but I still think E28 is just Alternate Universe Optimus Prime, considering he is labeled as Earthrise but is the only WFC release (that isn't part of a separate subline like Netlix or Golden Disk) that isn't numbered in any way from all 3 parts of the trilogy thus far.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Fri Oct 29, 2021 3:57 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:*edit*, since it has been revealed that Blaster is WFC-K44, that begs the question, who is K36, and K43? I know a repackage or ER Starscream was rumored early on, perhaps this is still happening (though it would be odd being on the shelf around the same time as Leader SS86 Coronation Starscream) . Even if it is, that still leaves one slot open...
Oooh, the plot thickens...

My bet is that one of the unused numbers was Voyager Starscream and will not be used just like E28 was supposed to be earth Sidwswipe and got bumped and unused. Not sure on the other though.
...I know someone mentioned this Sideswipe theory before and a lot of people believe it to be true, but I still think E28 is just Alternate Universe Optimus Prime, considering he is labeled as Earthrise but is the only WFC release (that isn't part of a separate subline like Netlix or Golden Disk) that isn't numbered in any way from all 3 parts of the trilogy thus far.


TF Wiki seems to agree. Not that it is the Ultimate Authority, but it does seem to make sense in this case.

Also, do we know who Tigatron's Wave mate is? It could be ER Starscream or Inferno I would think? Leaving the other to come with Blaster In January.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:13 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:*edit*, since it has been revealed that Blaster is WFC-K44, that begs the question, who is K36, and K43? I know a repackage or ER Starscream was rumored early on, perhaps this is still happening (though it would be odd being on the shelf around the same time as Leader SS86 Coronation Starscream) . Even if it is, that still leaves one slot open...
Oooh, the plot thickens...

My bet is that one of the unused numbers was Voyager Starscream and will not be used just like E28 was supposed to be earth Sidwswipe and got bumped and unused. Not sure on the other though.
...I know someone mentioned this Sideswipe theory before and a lot of people believe it to be true, but I still think E28 is just Alternate Universe Optimus Prime, considering he is labeled as Earthrise but is the only WFC release (that isn't part of a separate subline like Netlix or Golden Disk) that isn't numbered in any way from all 3 parts of the trilogy thus far.


He is the second un-numbered release from WFC, the reflector 3 pack was the other one.

Edit: The Pit of Judgment set may be another, but I'm too lazy to go check the instructions.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:18 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Also, do we know who Tigatron's Wave mate is?


yes
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mech_dh wrote:I think he looks great. Though I hope they ultimately release Polar Claw. Been itching for that figure ever since I saw the Kingdom illustration


We know what's coming out next year and he aint on the list. Right now there is no word on him coming. Earliest would be 2023, latest never.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:27 pm

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Super excited for the Blaster we’ve waited so long for, but… no preorder window? Just a “he’ll pop up on 1 January, 2022 in stores and online, good luck scoring one”? This makes me super anxious about him and the remaining members of W5… :-s
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:30 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:Super excited for the Blaster we’ve waited so long for, but… no preorder window? Just a “he’ll pop up on 1 January, 2022 in stores and online, good luck scoring one”? This makes me super anxious about him and the remaining members of W5… :-s


There is a preorder for him and Bulkhead here

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:35 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Also, do we know who Tigatron's Wave mate is? It could be ER Starscream or Inferno I would think? Leaving the other to come with Blaster In January.
I think it was rumored to be Rhinox actually-
...yeah, there we go.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:He is the second un-numbered release from WFC, the reflector 3 pack was the other one.

Edit: The Pit of Judgment set may be another, but I'm too lazy to go check the instructions.
The Reflector 3-pack, the Quint Pit, Ravage & Ravage, and Unicron DLC Galvatron all don't have numbers, yes, but they were all Con exclusives (even though the Cons some of them were meant for were cancelled) that aren't labeled as being part of the Siege/Earthrise/Kingdom releases anywhere and are just called WFC, unless I'm mistaken. AU Optimus, meanwhile, is directly called out as an Earthrise figure, he just doesn't have a number on his box.

It makes sense for a figure that isn't labeled as part of Earthrise to not have an Earthrise number, but when there's one ER figure that doesn't have a number and 1 number that's unaccounted for, that seems to me like an easy connection to make.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Mistaken_Table » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:46 pm

Aw jeez, I like Soundwave way more than Blaster. Thing is I don't have many Blasters and this fella looks like the 1 to buy.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Mindmaster » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:01 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Super excited for the Blaster we’ve waited so long for, but… no preorder window? Just a “he’ll pop up on 1 January, 2022 in stores and online, good luck scoring one”? This makes me super anxious about him and the remaining members of W5… :-s


There is a preorder for him and Bulkhead here

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/181712


It just so happens that that’s the set I preordered. So this is basically confirmation that Blaster will be repacked into Legacy?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:07 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Also, do we know who Tigatron's Wave mate is? It could be ER Starscream or Inferno I would think? Leaving the other to come with Blaster In January.
I think it was rumored to be Rhinox actually-
...yeah, there we go.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:He is the second un-numbered release from WFC, the reflector 3 pack was the other one.

Edit: The Pit of Judgment set may be another, but I'm too lazy to go check the instructions.
The Reflector 3-pack, the Quint Pit, Ravage & Ravage, and Unicron DLC Galvatron all don't have numbers, yes, but they were all Con exclusives (even though the Cons some of them were meant for were cancelled) that aren't labeled as being part of the Siege/Earthrise/Kingdom releases anywhere and are just called WFC, unless I'm mistaken. AU Optimus, meanwhile, is directly called out as an Earthrise figure, he just doesn't have a number on his box.

It makes sense for a figure that isn't labeled as part of Earthrise to not have an Earthrise number, but when there's one ER figure that doesn't have a number and 1 number that's unaccounted for, that seems to me like an easy connection to make.


I'm not saying AU prime as E28 and Hasbro just forgot to put it on the package/instructions somewhere doesn't make a lot of sense. But so does Sideswipe being intended for ER based on how early we heard about him. AU Prime was also a bit of an oddball as well being an "event" exclusive for Amazon Prime, Prime Day (except he was available for Amazon's original scheduled Prime Day dates before they pushed it back). PotP Nemesis Prime is the previous Prime Day exclusive I could remember (I think), but they didn't have numbering.

Actually, if the upcoming Crossover Amazon Prime Prime is also a Prime Day exclusive, that might be our best chance at an answer. If he gets a number, then yep, AE Prime's was just missing. If he doesn't, well nothing really changes, about a 50/50 split on what it could mean.

As a side, I noticed they stopped numbering selects for Legacy. Perhaps Hasbro is sick of us obsessing about them...
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:10 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Super excited for the Blaster we’ve waited so long for, but… no preorder window? Just a “he’ll pop up on 1 January, 2022 in stores and online, good luck scoring one”? This makes me super anxious about him and the remaining members of W5… :-s


There is a preorder for him and Bulkhead here

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/181712


It just so happens that that’s the set I preordered. So this is basically confirmation that Blaster will be repacked into Legacy?

Most likely that he was in Legacy first and then brought forward into Kingdom wave 5 when they decided to extend the line (just like in Siege with Astrotrain etc)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:12 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:As a side, I noticed they stopped numbering selects for Legacy. Perhaps Hasbro is sick of us obsessing about them...
Looks like the stopped numbering anything for Legacy, having gone back to check based on your observation, none of the retail figures have any sign of numbers either.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:20 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:As a side, I noticed they stopped numbering selects for Legacy. Perhaps Hasbro is sick of us obsessing about them...
Looks like the stopped numbering anything for Legacy, having gone back to check based on your observation, none of the retail figures have any sign of numbers either.


My OCD says both damn you and thank you to Hasbro.
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