The Energon Pub

News Credits: 8 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:19 am

All the stores ive been to lately either have wave 1, wave 3, or both 1 & 3 of the two packs but i have yet to see wave two, was there a problem with wave two and hasbro didnt release them or were they just under shipped? Ive seen the 5 packs from all 3 waves just not the 2 packs so there has to be something up.

News Credits: 1452 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:22 am

They were supposedly released 'fully' in August, but they were scarce across America. Not entirely sure about the situation but you might have to pull out the online retailer card if you want them badly.

News Credits: 12 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:35 am

Are you talking specifically about the 2-packs? Which ones are Wave 2? I don't think I've seen anything other than Huffer, Searchlight, and Smolder locally.

I have these 5-packs, all bought at retail:

Bombshock / Combaticons
Skyburst / Aerialbots
Double Clutch / Rallybots
Mudslinger / Destructicons

I've also started to see Crackcase / Destrons showing up.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:03 am

Leadfoot with Pinpoint, Sledge with Throttler, and Icepick with Chainclaw are wave 2. When they first showed up in my area, only one store had them and only one of each one. I was lucky enough to get all three, because it was another two months before I saw any more.

They are shipping out, but scarcely compared to 1 and 3, so you must remain vigilant.

News Credits: 5 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:12 am

GuyIncognito wrote:Are you talking specifically about the 2-packs? Which ones are Wave 2? I don't think I've seen anything other than Huffer, Searchlight, and Smolder locally.

I have these 5-packs, all bought at retail:

Bombshock / Combaticons
Skyburst / Aerialbots
Double Clutch / Rallybots
Mudslinger / Destructicons

I've also started to see Crackcase / Destrons showing up.

We have just been getting them in the Philly area in the last week or two, for some reason we are way behind oneverything. I found them in 3 or 4 places in the Exton area, but only at Kohls, Boscov's and the like, none at TRU, Target, Walmart.

Grimstone and the Constructions were in Exton this week too, so we are finally catching up to the rest of the country. I'm not sure why we are in a two month behind area, for as much population.

News Credits: 609 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:32 am

--B-- wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:Are you talking specifically about the 2-packs? Which ones are Wave 2? I don't think I've seen anything other than Huffer, Searchlight, and Smolder locally.

I have these 5-packs, all bought at retail:

Bombshock / Combaticons
Skyburst / Aerialbots
Double Clutch / Rallybots
Mudslinger / Destructicons

I've also started to see Crackcase / Destrons showing up.

We have just been getting them in the Philly area in the last week or two, for some reason we are way behind oneverything. I found them in 3 or 4 places in the Exton area, but only at Kohls, Boscov's and the like, none at TRU, Target, Walmart.

Grimstone and the Constructions were in Exton this week too, so we are finally catching up to the rest of the country. I'm not sure why we are in a two month behind area, for as much population.

NEPA isn't much better. We got the Wave 3 stuff before Wave 2 for whatever reason. I've only seen Wave 2 at Wal-Marts until a week or two ago, and then only at one Target and one Boscov's.

News Credits: 16 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:47 am

Razorclaw0000 wrote:
--B-- wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:Are you talking specifically about the 2-packs? Which ones are Wave 2? I don't think I've seen anything other than Huffer, Searchlight, and Smolder locally.

I have these 5-packs, all bought at retail:

Bombshock / Combaticons
Skyburst / Aerialbots
Double Clutch / Rallybots
Mudslinger / Destructicons

I've also started to see Crackcase / Destrons showing up.

We have just been getting them in the Philly area in the last week or two, for some reason we are way behind oneverything. I found them in 3 or 4 places in the Exton area, but only at Kohls, Boscov's and the like, none at TRU, Target, Walmart.

Grimstone and the Constructions were in Exton this week too, so we are finally catching up to the rest of the country. I'm not sure why we are in a two month behind area, for as much population.

NEPA isn't much better. We got the Wave 3 stuff before Wave 2 for whatever reason. I've only seen Wave 2 at Wal-Marts until a week or two ago, and then only at one Target and one Boscov's.

I've noticed something similar at my local Wal-Marts. Lately I've suspected Wal-Mart of shipping out merchandise using Last In, First Out. It makes me wonder if this will be the new norm in the future.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:13 pm

I was kinda wondering the same thing myself about the 2-packs.

I have seen them, but only very recently and only at one particular Wal-Mart.

News Credits: 129 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:58 pm

It was a poorly distributed wave. I've only seen them at Wal Mart supercenters and Khols.

News Credits: 65 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:37 pm

What actually happens with these poorly distributed waves of product?

Does Hasbro underproduce?
Does Hasbro not ship them and has warehouses full of product just collecting dust?
Does Hasbro ship them to stores who keep them in THEIR warehouses collecting dust?

These distribution problems happen again and again across many different product lines, and you have to wonder why the ball keeps getting dropped, who is to blame, and why no one ever learns?

News Credits: 12 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:55 pm

I don't know much about retail, but it seems to me that whenever a new line launches, the stores buy way too much of the first wave, and then never order the later waves because they're overstocked on the first wave.

News Credits: 65 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:01 pm

That may be true, and I seem to remember that being an especially big problem for the distribution of Energon toys several years ago. But, again, why don't retailers learn if it bites them in the butt again and again? Why doesn't Hasbro release more unique products at the initial launch to maintain greater diversity on the shelves? Or better yet, why doesn't Hasbro limit the quantities shipped on the first waves?

News Credits: 7 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 pm

Tesco in Europe has a lot of them.

(the only wave we got a lot from)

News Credits: 1 · Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:15 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:I don't know much about retail, but it seems to me that whenever a new line launches, the stores buy way too much of the first wave, and then never order the later waves because they're overstocked on the first wave.

That's sounds pretty accurate, judging from what I've seen from my local stores...

Chaoslock wrote:Tesco in Europe has a lot of them.

(the only wave we got a lot from)

No wonder we can't find any...THAT'S where they all are!

Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:48 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:All the stores ive been to lately either have wave 1, wave 3, or both 1 & 3 of the two packs but i have yet to see wave two, was there a problem with wave two and hasbro didnt release them or were they just under shipped? Ive seen the 5 packs from all 3 waves just not the 2 packs so there has to be something up.

I didn't have that problem actually the wal mart in my town is awesome i picked up highbrow, the fallen, all 3 wave2 pcc 2 packs, all the wfc that is released megatron soundwave optimus bumblbee, also have dirge thust
rea alert and blurr and last all the hftd waves out so far

News Credits: 8 · Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:15 pm

t$money$49 wrote:
Megatron Wolf wrote:All the stores ive been to lately either have wave 1, wave 3, or both 1 & 3 of the two packs but i have yet to see wave two, was there a problem with wave two and hasbro didnt release them or were they just under shipped? Ive seen the 5 packs from all 3 waves just not the 2 packs so there has to be something up.

I didn't have that problem actually the wal mart in my town is awesome i picked up highbrow, the fallen, all 3 wave2 pcc 2 packs, all the wfc that is released megatron soundwave optimus bumblbee, also have dirge thust
rea alert and blurr and last all the hftd waves out so far

Well good for you, tell the store to ship some to the rest of us or show our stores how things are suppose to be done. I found generations Thunderwing,Cliffjumper, and HFTD Teradive but still no Sledge,Icepick, or Leadfoot, even checked kohls and nothing.

News Credits: 3 · Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:39 am

Yeah, I've seen waves 1-4 of the 5 packs and 1 and 3 of the 2 packs, but never wave 2. I got the ones I wanted off HTS with a discount code. Supposedly they were sighted Kohls in my area, but I never checked.

Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:47 am

You may find some at Kohl's. I found Leadfoot and Sledge there. I have also never seen wave 2 besides there, and that goes for HFTD too. I don't know what's going on here...wave 1 is nearly gone everywhere but there are no restocks. All pegs/shelves are going empty.

News Credits: 241 · Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:58 am

It's always the stores fault. The Dallas area has the opposite problem: wave 2 5-packs are shelfwarming (!), and wave 3 barely came in. The 2-packs are few and far inbetween.

Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:32 pm

heck we have wave 5 5packs shelf warming

Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:33 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It's always the stores fault. The Dallas area has the opposite problem: wave 2 5-packs are shelfwarming (!), and wave 3 barely came in. The 2-packs are few and far inbetween.

We're still waiting for wave 2 anything in my area. There are only traces of wave 2 five packs showing up, but that's about it.