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MYoung23 wrote:Im an older fan and I hated Beast Machines with every fiber of my being and that is after really enjoying Beast Wars.

LET ME SAY THIS ONCE. TRANSFORMERS. IS. A. KID'S. SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean once was, now it is a franchise that has a much larger demographic.

Hasbro gears the series towards kids.

Not since G1 has the demographic been aimed towards kids exclusivly.

The Unicron trilogy target demographic was teens. Beast Wars was aimed towards teens and G1 fans who had been waiting for a new series. While the movie was aimed at adults, with the merchandise catering to everyone.

Animated though, seems to have kids in mind as the target audience.

Alright, so Unicron and Animated dont mix? EVRY TF SHOW HAS BEEN ANIMATED!! So DONT say he and animation dont mix. thats like saying ROTF sucked!

OptimusMagnus87653 wrote:Alright, so Unicron and Animated dont mix? EVRY TF SHOW HAS BEEN ANIMATED!! So DONT say he and animation dont mix. thats like saying ROTF sucked!

Who said they did?

sighhhh - what I wouldn't give for one - just one cartoon series that actually looked like this:


why why why

Look it is way to far away to predict anything about the next series at least about 1 or so years.

The new channel has yet to be rolled out or renamed.

Nothing has been mentioned except that we will see another new series sometime in 2010.

It will be on the Former Discovery/Kids Channel along with a New GI Joe which is also unkown.

But this is good time to do some brain storming to help get the ball rolling to get the next tf series out.


Remember sometimes big wigs that work on the shows actually pay attention to these boards once Ive recived an email from Derrick Wyatt stating that he liked my idea.

Dont expect nothing on the TF Front for some time but this is good for us cause we can watch the next series while we are waiting on the TF 3 which is due to hit 2011 or 2012.

In the mean time maybe hasbro can get the rights and make a N/A DVD Ultimate set for R.I.D. which is long over due I might add.

Like to see Beast Wars also done in the Ultimate sytle like Energon And Cybertron.

I would buy the Armadas again if they were to be re-released I also hated Beast Machines cause it was corny and they turned Optimus into a preachy wuss.

Rodimus2006 wrote:Look it is way to far away to predict anything about the next series at least about 1 or so years.

The new channel has yet to be rolled out or renamed.

Nothing has been mentioned except that we will see another new series sometime in 2010.

It will be on the Former Discovery/Kids Channel along with a New GI Joe which is also unkown.

But this is good time to do some brain storming to help get the ball rolling to get the next tf series out.


Remember sometimes big wigs that work on the shows actually pay attention to these boards once Ive recived an email from Derrick Wyatt stating that he liked my idea.

Dont expect nothing on the TF Front for some time but this is good for us cause we can watch the next series while we are waiting on the TF 3 which is due to hit 2011 or 2012.

In the mean time maybe hasbro can get the rights and make a N/A DVD Ultimate set for R.I.D. which is long over due I might add.

Like to see Beast Wars also done in the Ultimate sytle like Energon And Cybertron.

I would buy the Armadas again if they were to be re-released I also hated Beast Machines cause it was corny and they turned Optimus into a preachy wuss.

Wow, you decided repeat yourself more than a month after people quit talking in this thread.

And as of now, it's not really "too far away to make predictions" anymore, what with the year 2009 being more than halfway over and Autumn just around the corner. Isn't the new channel supposed to come early next year? I'd say that now is an okay time to start wondering what's coming (aside from what we already know, that is).

How about this: a Transformers: Robot Heroes type series for the kids and Transformers: Resolute type series for the teens and the adults.

SmasherScrapper wrote:Criticize me, but I think it would be cool for Beast Wars Animated.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! ^This^!

How about this: a Transformers: Robot Heroes type series for the kids and Transformers: Resolute type series for the teens and the adults.

I dunno...I'm not familiar with G.I.Joe Resolute, what is it?

And TF: Robot Heroes for kids? A deluxe-sized, chubby, transforming Optimus Prime would be funny. However, I'm not so sure. Maybe a more Animated-themed show for kids. My 11-year-old brother wouldn't much be into a super-violent show (is that what Resolute is?), but he'd laugh at the Robot Heroes show. How about, instead of Robot Heroes, we have like, an Animated continuation, or a new Universe toyline (my brother almost likes Universe more than Animated, his favorite character on TFA is a tie between Waspinator and...I don't know, actually But he loves Universe. He unfortunately never got his favorite, Deluxe Smokescreen) with a Universe cartoon to go with it? He and my 7-year old brother would like that.

And if we must have Robot Heroes, then put it on in the early morning for kids between the ages of 3 and 6. I know my 3-year-old sister loves TFs, but she can't transform them, so she plays with my Robot Heroes ( ). She'd love a whole show centered around them.

I wanan see the next series done like Star Wars - The Clone Wars same art style

Or could do it how Hot Wheels is done.

I think this should be a prequel Series showing the great wars of Cybertron.

We have always heard about the Beginning the great wars of Cybertron.

But we never had a story that focused just on this time period.

The Original 13 would be in it also that would mean that Primus and Unicron would also be in it since they fought each other at the same time.

But whatever they decide for the next series I just hope it is as good as animated was or at least on the same page as it was.

I really dont care if humans will or will not be in it I just wanna have a good series.

Alao I wanna have a series that will be longer than 3 seasons.

I think they should drag this one out I am tired of every series of transformers ending to fast.

Make it 5 seasons or 6.

Cyberstrike wrote:How about this: a Transformers: Robot Heroes type series for the kids and Transformers: Resolute type series for the teens and the adults.

Brilliant idea! If the next Transformers series gets the Resolute treatment, I'd be on cloud 9 for a good long while.

I think that TFA should be brought back. I thought it was a terrible shame to cancel the show just because the film was coming out and that for some reason deserved more promotion. I mean it's not like Hasbro don't have the resources to promote both and sell both types of toys as well. My opinion though I only recently got into TFA but find it quite refreshing and fun to watch.

I would be interested in seeing a Beast Wars Animated too, that's just from the limited original Beast wars that I have watched to date.

And just to throw a random idea out there, what if, big if, they made a TV show based on the bayverse films (live action) obviously lower budget and not Bay doing it but a live action TV show all the same...TV show effects are brilliant now, look what they do with things like Stargate and the new Knight Rider (which is soo cheesy its great!)... It's a possible route to go down... I quite like the movie TF's though so it could just be my wishful thinking...

Knight Rider utilised CGI technology pioneered by the first TF movie.

It's cost was one of the reasons why KR has now been cancelled.

Burn wrote:Knight Rider utilised CGI technology pioneered by the first TF movie.

It's cost was one of the reasons why KR has now been cancelled.

Yeah my mum and I were sat watching it yesterday on the sci fi channel and basically just saying this is transformers lol

I didn't know it had been cancelled... Everything is getting cancelled these days it seems

OptimusMagnus87653 wrote:I have a suggestion that would make a good new series:

...........it is a time of peace and prosperity for the Autobots. Megatron and his cohorts have been imprisoned. Omega Supreme is back on duty searching the galaxy for the Decepticon Remnant. And Ultra Magnus is about to pass on the rank of Magnus to a lucky militia bot!

This series takes place 2 years after the Transformers Animated Series! Optimus and Sentinel Prime are both expectant to get the rank of Magnus, Sari is the new Police Chief of New Detroit and keeper of the reborn Allspark, Arcee is back on schoolteacher duty, and Bumblebee, Ratchet, Bulkhead, and Optimus have done their best in the Elite Guard the past 2 years, their team consisting of the above bots, Jazz, Sentinel, Jetfire, Jetstorm, and Ironhide(TEAM OPTIMUS), who are considered the largest and best team the Elite Guard has ever seen in millenia. But what everybot expects to be a prosperus and succesful future, isn't meant to be...............

About 5 months before the ceremony of the new Magnus, we find out that Soundwave is back, and he's not alone. He found the fembot Starscream, Slipstream, ripped out her spark, found the real deal, and brought him back. Starscream decided to free Megatron, and stay on his good side. They searched the galaxy for other Decepticons. And what they got were Blitzwing, Swindle, Scorponok, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Cyclonus, Brawl, Crumplezone, Sideways, and Demolisher. They soon found the old Spark Signal Cloaking Device, invaded Cybertron, and freed Megatron, Shockwave, and Lugnut. But the Autobots got a transmission from the guard Cliffjumper, before he was blasted to pieces. When Team Optimus and Ultra Magnus got there, it got bad. But soon, the decepticons retreated after Autobot reinforcements arrived. As soon as Megatron had been blasted into space(literally),he was a wreck. But then, he'd unexpectedly made a space warp to what the Transformers designated Planet X. But in it's place floated what resembled Planet X. IT WAS UNICRON(DUM DUM DUUUUUUUUM)! But Unicron was not fully online. He needed the Omega Lock and the Allspark. He gave Megatron a new form in exchange for serving him in this deed. Megatron then called out in a voice that somehow literally carried across the galaxy,"UNICRON HAS RETURNED! I AM REBORN! I AM GALVATRON!!!" The autobots gathered, and held a counsel. They knew that Unicron could be stopped by one, and only one being...............PRIMUS! They knew that long ago, he'd went offline, sacrificing himself to stop Unicron and save everyone. They also knew if anyone could find and bring back Primus, it was the Techno-organic, Sari Sumdac. But first, they had to fond the Omega Lock, a device that can hold the Allspark, and use it as the very spark of Primus. The search 4 the Omega lock and Primus, like this new war, had begun..........

I dub this series, "Transformers Animated: The Rise of Unicron"

(Please tell me wat u think)

WHO DOESN'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?!?!? I MEAN, COME OOOOOOON! THE WAY THEY ENDED TFA WASN'T AL THAT EXCITING, WAS IT?!?!?!


And btw, will somebody PLEASE tell me HOW 2 GET A FREAKING AVATAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OptimusMagnus87653 wrote:WHO DOESN'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?!?!? I MEAN, COME OOOOOOON! THE WAY THEY ENDED TFA WASN'T AL THAT EXCITING, WAS IT?!?!?!


And btw, will somebody PLEASE tell me HOW 2 GET A FREAKING AVATAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Calm down.
2. Turn off your Caps Lock key.
3. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
4. Yes, the ending to Animated seemed rushed, but it's over now (TV show-wise) and that's that.
5. you can get an avatar by by going to your "User Control Panel", clicking "Profile", clicking "Edit Avatar", and then uploading the image that you wish to use as an avatar (must be no bigger than 100x100 pixels).

As said before I think Unicron needs go into the vault for a long time. No shows with him or movies. It's not 86 anymore, we actually care about some semblance of scale...good riddance. I prefer bad guys to be something that heroes can fight, not plot device to death.

If they wanted to explore the original 13 themselves thats fine, but that can be done without the transformer gods being named or involved. The All spark works just fine, which the 13 and the next generations that follow might even go a quest discover it's origin.

Could be a story about Alpha Trion in fact, as he is busy telling it from the present time with a young optimus and ultra magnus. He'd have run ins with the Quints and other races, as we can see other races with in the transformer universe as it be nice have a story where the autobots and decepticons aren't at each others throats for once.

I hadn't seen any of the 13 named really besides Vector and The Fallen. I decided come up with my own explaination to them all and names, Id hope Hasbro does something simliar.

- 1 Vector Prime - Leader of transports/Voyager class
Descendents: Astrotrain, Omega Supreme, Skyfire
Description: Basically all larger transport type characters would been created in Vector's image. They'd be explorers first, combatants second.

- 2. Haven Prime- Mistress of Sages
Descendents: Rachet, First Aid, Emirate Xeon
Description: All the models who focus on repairing others or actting as spiritual leaders who come from Haven.

- 3. Nano Prime- Leader of Micro bots
Descendents: Rumble, Frenzy, Rewind, Scapel
Description:All smaller bots who often form symbiotic relationships with larger bots would be followers of Nano Prime.

- 4. Giga Prime- Leader of Giants
Descendents: Metroplex, Fortress Maxiumius ,
Description: basically city/battlestation bots would come from giga prime's line.

- 5. Strata Prime- Mistress of Seekers
Descendents: Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp
Description: All fighter class fliers would follow this line. Whether they are helicopters or jets.

- 6. Oceanus Prime- Leader of Naval
Descendents:Tidal Wave, Seaspray, Depthcharge
Description: if it goes in the water, it goes here.

- 7. Aegis Prime- Leader of Armor
Descendents: Brawl, Warpath, Ironhide
Description: All the heavy duty slower tougher built characters would descend from this line.

- 8. Axel Prime- Leader of racers
Descendents: Bumble bee, Jazz, Breakdown
Description: craploads of autobots come form this line heh. Though stunticons and few cons would too.

- 9. Shifter Prime- Queen of beasts
Descendents: Dinobots, Predcons, insecticons
Description: All transformers who are more interested in modeling themselves after organic life of the universe than mechanical devices follow here.

- 10. Protector Prime- Master of defense
Descendents: Onslaught, Megatron
Description: Where Megatron got the idea for name lord high protector , as he'd model himself after Protector prime during his more honorable years serving cybertron. Protector's line consists of those who are masters of war, natural commanders, and willing come up with plans to win at whatever cost for greater good of cybertron. Of course some ideals can be twisted and taken too far.

- 11. Enigma Prime- Leader of scientists
Descendents: Perceptor, Shockwave
Description: Of walking brains of cybertron fit here.

- 12. Convoy Prime- Leader of workers
Descendents: Optimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Motormaster
Description: as nod to Prime's japanese name, it be the line which all the larger ground vechiles for working would come from.

- 13. Vandalius Prime-arbiter of balance, later the Fallen
Descendents: Monstercons, Terrorcons,Sharkticons
Description: The fallen role was originally to maintain balance between the other casts. His children were vicious monsters forged in the nightmares of others rather than in form of something in the physical world. His desire to push for only the strong to survive went too far, as he and his cast were banished.


I'd been kicking around ideas for a fanfic I'm writing, but anyone at hasbro can lift them if there were something else to do with the ideas. Id really like see the 13 get fleshed out someway or another as little data on them exists despite being supposedly important. Just figured id mention it since people were talking about the 13.

Sorry double post.

Lastjustice wrote: I hadn't seen any of the 13 named really besides Vector and The Fallen. I decided come up with my own explaination to them all and names, Id hope Hasbro does something simliar.

The known ones with names are:

• Prima
• "The Fallen"
• Vector Prime
• Logos Prime (A.K.A. Galaxy Force Soundblaster)
• Nexus Prime (the toy was named "Nexus Maximus", but his name in fiction is "Nexus Prime")

Others who are possible candidates include:

• Alpha Trion
• The Liege Maximo
• Maccadam
• The Last Autobot
• The other six of the Seven Primes

Sabrblade wrote:

Lastjustice wrote: I hadn't seen any of the 13 named really besides Vector and The Fallen. I decided come up with my own explaination to them all and names, Id hope Hasbro does something simliar.

The known ones with names are:

• Prima
• "The Fallen"
• Vector Prime
• Logos Prime (A.K.A. Galaxy Force Soundblaster)
• Nexus Prime (the toy was named "Nexus Maximus", but his name in fiction is "Nexus Prime")

Others who are possible candidates include:

• Alpha Trion
• The Liege Maximo
• Maccadam
• The Last Autobot
• The other six of the Seven Primes

- I didn't see any info for Logos Prime/Soundblaster being a original. Last I knew soundblaster was just a rebuilt form of soundwave whos black instead of blue. If it's not in the US continutity then it likely doesn't count then. (as Logos Prime just reeks of a japanense.)

- Prima , He's only mentioned in Marvel comics, and has little role in things. He seems rather uninspired as a whole. I knew of him but wasn't sure anyone counted him since he was so.... lame.

- Nexus prime, again another awful concept. He's just randomly tossed into the 13. I say retcon please.

- Liege maximo likely won;t ever be used again according Furman, so pointless make him an original.

- Last autobot..I find idea of someone being name this and one of the original 13 just to be utterally stupid. Are you the first or the last, make up your mind.

-Maccadam

We are the 13, the first, the forgotten, each of us serving a function vital to the survival of the universe. Each of us designated a Prime and given a function to serve during the long march of infinity.

This supposedly what each prime deal is. I for one want this axed. The whole transformer gods has been over used, if they can alter the original 13 for the movie, they can retcon this into a new idea that works instead of waiting for someone to simply fill in the holes of the remaining primes with random junk.

Imagine if the Greek gods pathaon looked like this...
Zeus king of gods and god of thunder
Poseidon King of seas
Hades , God of the underworld
Bob guy whos really old and offers advice....

which one of these things doesn't belong. So yeah Alpha trion doesn't belong on a list of originals if they have some sort of specfic role to transformers universe. If we have guys who govern time and space and can reverse time, then there better be something of freaking sigifigance in these slots than next some writer plops in there. This needs be better thought out since none of the 13 seem be even created by same writer.

One writer has them being demo-gods with powers of the universe another has them simply as really old transformers. (thats all prima been shown be.) This horribly inconsistent, and I thnik they need go back, retcon them into a singular role and purpose. Especially if a universe opts not have universe Unicron and Primus..which i think they need go anyways. Too much supernatural in my sci fi.

I mean Unicron wasn't a transformer god when he was introduced. He was just a really big transformer. Even the G1 cartoon had him simply something a mad genius Primacron made , which he created a energy being Tornedron to finish his job. So not like this business isn't subject to Retcons.

Which Simon Furman who came up with the story of Primus and Unicron doesn't to use them anymore in his current works as they re both overused plot devices, so the notion they re part of all worlds is being conatradicted and needs be axed. It will just stranglehold the fiction otherwise, as impossible not include them then.

Id rather they took this opportunitty, come up with a consistent role for all 13 and names. (including the fallens original name for any universe he is not the fallen and still a prime.) I'd envision them just being prototypes , and all rest descended from their lines, but that doesn't need be the answer. Or go they re all demi-gods of sorts and control aspects of nature and reality.(again Id prefer a more sci fi angle than they re avatars of forces of nature.) Just one thats consistent across the board and makes sense.

If the Movie verse can so far not have a Primus and Unicron(which I'm hoping stays that way.), and only 7 instead of 13 original Primes then they can make a new set for a new fiction. This can be the agreed upon set in all existences and erases all previous ones. Right now I'm displeased with their current direction for them.

You might wanna to do a little homework next time you reference the Greek gods and how they all have amazing domains...

Lastjustice wrote: Imagine if the Greek gods pathaon looked like this...
Zeus king of gods and god of thunder
Poseidon King of seas
Hades , God of the underworld
Bob guy whos really old and offers advice....

Dionysus was a Greek God right up there with Zeus and Poseidon, and in fact the Goddess Hestia actually left her seat so he could take a place among the Olympus twelve and become... the God of Wine and Parties. How's that for fitting in with the God King of the Sky, Thunder, and Justice?

Likewise, who is to that among the original thirteen transformers there are those who got shafted with regards to their powers or domains? Certainly there are going to be members of the original thirteen that have less glamorous powers then others.

In anycase, mythology tends to be very... broad even when studying something like the Greeks, such as the affair between Ares and Aphrodite. In some versions of the myth, Hephaistos, Aphrodite's husband, is out for blood whereas in others he simply sulks.

Even if writers for a new series did go to the trouble of fleshing out a mythological background, would it even be relevant? In addition, there is no 'set cannon' around mythology. Nexus Prime could be an original thirteen member, there may or may not be hope at the bottom of Pandora's box, the Norse Goddesses Freyja and Frigg might be the same Goddess. There's a reason why the mythology of Transformers Universes are kept a grey area, because mythology is a grey area.

With continuity reboots, statements like "There no Primus and Unicron in this continuity" are generally kept broad. Sometimes mythology isn't even explored, because frankly, it's irrelevant to the plot, ie Animated limited itself to the Allspark as a source of life and power.

Besides, backstory is nice, the universe being fleshed out is cool, but frankly the actual story and Characters are what count.

Lastjustice wrote:- I didn't see any info for Logos Prime/Soundblaster being a original. Last I knew soundblaster was just a rebuilt form of soundwave whos black instead of blue. If it's not in the US continutity then it likely doesn't count then. (as Logos Prime just reeks of a japanense.)

Actually, Soundblaster has no relation to Cybertron Soundwave. He appears in the Beast Wars Reborn story where he tries to tempt BW Megatron with power, and Vector Prime shows up and identitfies Soundblaster as Logos Prime, one of the "Ancients" like himself. Also, on TakaraTomy's "World of Transformers" site, an image of all 13 originals includes a silhouette of Soundblaster. See more info on him here, and more info on the 13 here.

Well it's not an official cartoon, but there is the War Within Animated series by Black Bumblebee. The episodes take awhile to produce but, they are worth the wait. Episode one is out now, and episode two should be out some time this month.

Episode-1 Part-1

Episode-1 Part-2

SEE THIS LINK:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/16/tra ... -1st-2011/


And also FOLLOW THE UPDATE LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OptimusMagnus87653 wrote:SEE THIS LINK:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/16/tra ... -1st-2011/


And also FOLLOW THE UPDATE LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Old news.

Sabrblade wrote:

OptimusMagnus87653 wrote:SEE THIS LINK:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/03/16/tra ... -1st-2011/


And also FOLLOW THE UPDATE LINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Old news.

rrrrrrrrrreeeeeeally old news. Also I do believe the topic question is about animated shows, not the movies.