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What TF's do you absolutely detest?

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What TF's do you absolutely detest?

Postby Darth Decepticonus » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:36 pm

Cheetor from BW
way too obsessed with him self, like in the ep. The Web, he disobeys orders not once but twice, than he does so again in the very next episode. Sure Sunstreaker in G1 was rather vain and into himself but I would too if I was a lambo lol.

Wheelie
do I need any explination?
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Postby Calvatron » Tue May 01, 2007 12:52 am

I never liked blur. Especially on tv as opposed to the moview. He just gives me headaches.
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Postby Leonardo » Tue May 01, 2007 2:17 am

Blurr always annoyed me, as well, but to be truthful it was more the writing in general than any one TF that irritated me (in the cartoon, the comics were different).
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Postby Skullgrin140 » Tue May 01, 2007 3:47 am

Wheelie & Warpath, Wheelie just P***ed me off with his constant ryhming and nonsense. Warpath!...Zam, Bowie! Wham, Zing SHUT UP! :-x
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Postby Jaw Crusher » Tue May 01, 2007 7:11 am

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Most any TF that had a 'cute' or 'funny' speech impediment.

That's not to say they wouldn't have been salvageable, though. I prefer Comic Grimlock over Cartoon Grimlock any day of the week, and Wheelie might have actually been tolerable if they had portrayed him like he was in the Marvel storybook that Norem painted.
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Postby Ultra Convoy » Tue May 01, 2007 8:02 am

The reissue Wheelie is better than the org. Here is my list.

The Gen One Megatron. Since the toy was from the Micoman toy line, It did not look like anything at all like the Megs in the Gen One Cartoon. I am gald that MP-05 Megs is closer to the cartoon one.

Gen One Optimus Prime. Like Megs Prime was from another toy line, the Diaclone line. The toy back was exposed. The 20th MP version of Prime is better. More cartoon accurate.

Gen One Bumblebee. Not very well bulit. Flimsy.

The Hasbro version of Ginrai AKA Powermaster Prime. They did not included the secondary trailer with the toy. They did corrected when they released a second time.

Machine Wars Thunderclash (AKA Prime in the US) The transformation was too stiff.

Constructicons Classics. The alt forms are to bulky.

Metroplex Superlink Terrible alt form.

The Actionmasters nuff said

I wasn't to fond of the Beast Wars toys.

Nightbeat. Why did Hasbro repaint the first "female" TF toy?
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Postby Darth Decepticonus » Tue May 01, 2007 8:51 am

We're not talkin about toys here dude
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Postby g1optimusprime » Tue May 01, 2007 8:59 am

well the only ones i didnt like were wheelie and also kickback i always wanted to step on that damn bug
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Postby Dagon » Tue May 01, 2007 9:52 am

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Warpath, Seaspray, basically all speech impediment Transformers that are not Insecticons, BW Cheetor, Rattrap and Quickstrike, Optimus Prime, most of the characters who possess intelligence low enough to only manage to speak in the third person, except Waspinator, Gears, Bumblebee, Wheelie and Blur, A-Demolisher, all versions of Hot Shot, Beachcomber, Cosmos with his bad Peter Lorry voice, a lot really. That's why I love the big character setup of Transformers, because for each of these I may hate there are plenty of others to love.
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue May 01, 2007 1:17 pm

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Quickstrike from Beast Wars. He's just not a good character.
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Postby Stormwolf » Tue May 01, 2007 2:56 pm

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Here's my list of cruddy characters.

Wheelie
Cartoon Grimlock
Longtooth
Cartoon Galvatron
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Postby Darth Decepticonus » Tue May 01, 2007 7:53 pm

Cartoon Grimlock is hilarious

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Grimlock: Not Cybertron, California maybe?
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Postby ThunderThruster » Tue May 01, 2007 9:22 pm

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Darth Decepticonus wrote:Cartoon Grimlock is hilarious

Daniel: Where are we?
Grimlock: Not Cybertron, California maybe?

i've got to agree, but his comic incarnation was better!
to be honest Brawn was the one that p**sed me off the most, he was so full of himself!
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Postby Dclone Soundwave » Tue May 01, 2007 9:52 pm

Wheelie. Do I need to explain why? Next, Warpath. The whole thing of the sound effects was from watching too much Batman. I never liked Seaspray either. The whole talking w/an Aquatic accent was too much. Brawn, yes, was very full of himself. I hated "Microbots" where he continually persecuted Perceptor. Hated it. And then there was Cartoon Galvatron. Or Insane Galvatron if you will. The voice Welker gave him was too high & shrill for my tastes. But whatever.
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Postby Dragonslayer » Tue May 01, 2007 10:48 pm

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Wheelie, Huffer, and Gears...I can't stand ANY of them! :BOOM:
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Postby Judge Deliberata » Wed May 02, 2007 1:01 am

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Prowl: Hardly did anything in the show, and came off as a pompous ass in the Marvel comic (at least, to me)

Wheelie: Just...stop talking. Please.

Warpath: You, too.

Seaspray: And you.

Beachcomber: I have a thing about hippies. Ugh.

Marvel comics Megatron: It's like the cartoon version, only weaker, with a black head, zero charisma, and a bit too much crazy.
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Postby Dagon » Wed May 02, 2007 9:12 am

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Yeah, Marvel Megatron was TOO insane, like almost to the point of not making any sense at all.
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Postby ThunderThruster » Thu May 03, 2007 10:42 am

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Dagon wrote:Yeah, Marvel Megatron was TOO insane, like almost to the point of not making any sense at all.

you could say the same of marvel galvertron!
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Postby Screambug » Fri May 04, 2007 6:22 am

Anything not G1. :P

Just kidding.
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Postby Magnus' Mate » Fri May 04, 2007 6:56 am

Dagon wrote:Yeah, Marvel Megatron was TOO insane, like almost to the point of not making any sense at all.


But that was the point!! Oh, and Galvatron is fantastic in any incarnation :D

And come on, people, let's be more original than "Wheelie" every other post...

My least favourite characters (get ready for "gee-wunners" to start wetting themselves in horror) are basically most of the Year 1 and 2 characters. Simply because - in both cartoon and comic - they had so little to do, and barely exhibited any real "character" at all. How can you "like" Trailbreaker, when the poor guy didn't get to do anything except stand around!?! They all had great potential, but besides a handful (Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet etc) they all got a raw deal on the personality front...

Series 3 of the cartoon corrected these errors by primarily focusing on a smaller core cast.

But personally, I'm a Marvel UK guy through & through anyway.
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Postby Sunstar » Fri May 04, 2007 10:51 am

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I dislike in rough order

Optimus Prime(I just can't stand the guy)
Prowl
Hound
Mirage
Gears
Huffer
Wheelie
Daniel
Sweeps
Sunstreaker

I think that's it.
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Postby ThunderThruster » Fri May 04, 2007 7:17 pm

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so you basically hate the autobots then!?
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Postby Necessary Evil » Sat May 05, 2007 1:38 am

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Groove's a loser, just like Nosecone. Those guys ruin their gestalt teams. All the humans were a pain in the rear end too.
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Postby Dead Metal » Wed May 09, 2007 11:55 am

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Ultra Convoy wrote:The reissue Wheelie is better than the org. Here is my list.

The Gen One Megatron. Since the toy was from the Micoman toy line, It did not look like anything at all like the Megs in the Gen One Cartoon. I am gald that MP-05 Megs is closer to the cartoon one.

Gen One Optimus Prime. Like Megs Prime was from another toy line, the Diaclone line. The toy back was exposed. The 20th MP version of Prime is better. More cartoon accurate.

Gen One Bumblebee. Not very well bulit. Flimsy.

The Hasbro version of Ginrai AKA Powermaster Prime. They did not included the secondary trailer with the toy. They did corrected when they released a second time.

Machine Wars Thunderclash (AKA Prime in the US) The transformation was too stiff.

Constructicons Classics. The alt forms are to bulky.

Metroplex Superlink Terrible alt form.

The Actionmasters nuff said

I wasn't to fond of the Beast Wars toys.

Nightbeat. Why did Hasbro repaint the first "female" TF toy?

:-B OK a litle hitory lesson:
Hasbro boght the Diacloens and Micromens and what thernames are for the US market. Then they decided to put them into one toyline and to promote the toyline they asked Marvel to make a comic series and a cartoon series (wich they later produced), so they formed 2 teams renamed and recolered the carakters (thats wy the japanes cale Prime convoy) and did a litle redesigning to make them posible to anamate and bring to comics. :-B
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Ops almoest forgot to say who I hate. All of those pesky litle bloody crapy Minicons and the Cyberplanet keys!
And G1 Hod Rod or Rodimus, and the Transformers from Armada and Cybertron I mean they don't look that bad but I just hated toes series just raping Transformers, but maybe I'm wrong cos Armada suked big time in Germany and so Cybertron just came out and toes are the first toyes in Germany since Armada.
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Postby Shadowman » Wed May 09, 2007 8:14 pm

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G1 Starscream.

He had a terrible voice, and was one-sided to the point that 99% of the things he did was attempt to tkae over the Decepticons. That's why the Combaticons exist, even.

I tend to hate him more when fangirls attempt at giving reasons why he's "Beautiful" "Has a lovely voice" and **** like that.

Skywarp was cooler, anyway, and had a better color scheme.
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