@JZGR
Wasn't the Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme blueprints/records discovered accidentally in the Tomy archives after their merger?
At least thats how I understood the back story.
Anyways, a mystery that hopefully will be answered by another lucky strike.
What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
33 posts
• Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by fenrir72 Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:56 am
Motto:
"Power to the strong and the right!"
Weapon:
Plasma Cannon
-
fenrir72 - God Of Transformers
- Posts: 10540
- News Credits: 60
- Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:37 am
- Location: SEA
- Alt Mode: Mobile Ground Fortress
- Strength: 9
- Intelligence: 9
- Speed: 6
- Endurance: 10+
- Rank: 9
- Courage: 10
- Firepower: 8
- Skill: 9
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:05 am
Motto:
"The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
fenrir72 wrote:@JZGR
Wasn't the Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme blueprints/records discovered accidentally in the Tomy archives after their merger?
At least thats how I understood the back story.
Anyways, a mystery that hopefully will be answered by another lucky strike.
We'll never know, but we do know for sure that the merger is a blessing with those two Encores
The resident Rewind... well, half of one 
- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him
)
- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
- Spare CW HFGs (Air Raid/Skydive)
- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him
)- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
- Spare CW HFGs (Air Raid/Skydive)
-
Jelze Bunnycat - God Of Transformers
- Posts: 19475
- News Credits: 241
- Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:45 am
- Location: McKinney, Texas, USA; Delft, the Netherlands
- Strength: 5
- Intelligence: 9
- Speed: 8
- Endurance: 7
- Rank: 1
- Courage: 8
- Skill: 5
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by fenrir72 Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:09 am
Motto:
"Power to the strong and the right!"
Weapon:
Plasma Cannon
That and the possible Shockwave re-issue. I'd like another Shockwave because though mine (the Takara version)is minty and all,his back pack is kind of loose despite my TLC.
-
fenrir72 - God Of Transformers
- Posts: 10540
- News Credits: 60
- Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:37 am
- Location: SEA
- Alt Mode: Mobile Ground Fortress
- Strength: 9
- Intelligence: 9
- Speed: 6
- Endurance: 10+
- Rank: 9
- Courage: 10
- Firepower: 8
- Skill: 9
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by craggy Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:11 pm
since this thread is all about misunderstanding and pedantry, (as well as one awesomely interesting original question...which I didn't need to re-read 40 times to understand) I feel I should point out that Trademark is not only for names. Distinguishing features of any design could be trademarked. A red robot with blue legs and head that turns into a truck is a fairly familiar idea, one that we associate with Optimus Prime. I'm sure if there was some serious financial competition to Hasbro that used the same basic ideas they'd claim trademark, despite (presumably) some obvious differences between the 2 robot characters. Then of course there are companies with Registered Trademarks, like their logos or colour schemes or such.
First TF released that was a Hasbro original would have to be one of the movie guys I think.
Which is the oldest toy design to have appeared in the Transformers line? Megatron?
First TF released that was a Hasbro original would have to be one of the movie guys I think.
Which is the oldest toy design to have appeared in the Transformers line? Megatron?
assembling a Neo-G1/TF:TM cast. Please PM if you have (or know of) the following at a reasonable price: Classics or Henkei Astrotrain, Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, or 3rd Party iGear Ratchet and Ironhide.
Also looking for Universe Repugnus and Overbite, Frostbite and Longhorn and any Webdiver toys.
Also looking for Universe Repugnus and Overbite, Frostbite and Longhorn and any Webdiver toys.
- craggy
- Faction Commander
- Posts: 4773
- News Credits: 4
- Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:07 pm
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:21 pm
Motto:
"The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
craggy wrote:since this thread is all about misunderstanding and pedantry, (as well as one awesomely interesting original question...which I didn't need to re-read 40 times to understand) I feel I should point out that Trademark is not only for names. Distinguishing features of any design could be trademarked. A red robot with blue legs and head that turns into a truck is a fairly familiar idea, one that we associate with Optimus Prime. I'm sure if there was some serious financial competition to Hasbro that used the same basic ideas they'd claim trademark, despite (presumably) some obvious differences between the 2 robot characters. Then of course there are companies with Registered Trademarks, like their logos or colour schemes or such.
I thought that fell under patents?
First TF released that was a Hasbro original would have to be one of the movie guys I think.
Which is the oldest toy design to have appeared in the Transformers line? Megatron?
Of the Diaclones it would have to be the Insecticons, since they came out before the Car Robot and Microchange sublines. Of the non-HasTak lines I'm not sure.
The resident Rewind... well, half of one
- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him)
- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
- Spare CW HFGs (Air Raid/Skydive)
- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him
)- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1
- Legacy Core Slug, Sludge & Snarl
- Spare CW HFGs (Air Raid/Skydive)
-
Jelze Bunnycat - God Of Transformers
- Posts: 19475
- News Credits: 241
- Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:45 am
- Location: McKinney, Texas, USA; Delft, the Netherlands
- Strength: 5
- Intelligence: 9
- Speed: 8
- Endurance: 7
- Rank: 1
- Courage: 8
- Skill: 5
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by craggy Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:46 pm
aren't patents for very specific designs? like the dimensions and shape of a coke bottle are patented, but the idea of a bottle that is thinner in the middle can't be?
like I said, pedantry. let them eat a particular brand of cake!
like I said, pedantry. let them eat a particular brand of cake!
assembling a Neo-G1/TF:TM cast. Please PM if you have (or know of) the following at a reasonable price: Classics or Henkei Astrotrain, Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, or 3rd Party iGear Ratchet and Ironhide.
Also looking for Universe Repugnus and Overbite, Frostbite and Longhorn and any Webdiver toys.
Also looking for Universe Repugnus and Overbite, Frostbite and Longhorn and any Webdiver toys.
- craggy
- Faction Commander
- Posts: 4773
- News Credits: 4
- Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:07 pm
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by fenrir72 Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:10 pm
Motto:
"Power to the strong and the right!"
Weapon:
Plasma Cannon
Maybe Mykltron should have reworded the question
"Which was the first TF figure designed specifically by Hasbro that wasn't adapted from previous Japanese toy lines?"
That is to be more specific.
I'd second that craggy, U.N.C.L.E. Megatron and/or Soundwave could be one of the oldest in their catalogs. Iirc the Insectrons where like set up as the Diaclone's foes (that's how it was portrayed in my 1982-83 not yet Blitzwing catalog).
"Which was the first TF figure designed specifically by Hasbro that wasn't adapted from previous Japanese toy lines?"
That is to be more specific.
I'd second that craggy, U.N.C.L.E. Megatron and/or Soundwave could be one of the oldest in their catalogs. Iirc the Insectrons where like set up as the Diaclone's foes (that's how it was portrayed in my 1982-83 not yet Blitzwing catalog).
-
fenrir72 - God Of Transformers
- Posts: 10540
- News Credits: 60
- Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:37 am
- Location: SEA
- Alt Mode: Mobile Ground Fortress
- Strength: 9
- Intelligence: 9
- Speed: 6
- Endurance: 10+
- Rank: 9
- Courage: 10
- Firepower: 8
- Skill: 9
Re: What Was The First Toy Designed Under The TF Name?
Posted by Mykltron Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:17 am
Motto:
"If I win again I'm still the champion. If you win HAH! that's just impossible.
Weapon: tea cup."
Weapon: tea cup."
fenrir72 wrote:Maybe Mykltron should have reworded the question
"Which was the first TF figure designed specifically by Hasbro that wasn't adapted from previous Japanese toy lines?"
I spent ages trying to make my question as easy to understand as possible
You've summed it up perfectly.
-
Mykltron - Guardian Of Seibertron
- Posts: 5979
- News Credits: 9
- Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:43 am
- Location: Nearby. Watching.
33 posts
• Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2
Who is online
Registered users: Apple [Bot], Bing [Bot], ChatGPT [Bot], focusispro, Glyph, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, MSN [Bot], OpenAI [Bot], Silver Wind, Transbot, Yahoo [Bot], Yandex [Bot]
