The Energon Pub

Prime Riblet wrote:

Blurrz wrote:Animated Starscream. This toy just gives me pure agony. Parts keep falling off and getting him completely into alternate mode is a bloody hay day.

I completely agree. Right out of the box he was a piece of junk.

hmm. i was thinking about picking him up.... but now im reconsidering

Classics Grimlock- Crappy robot mode.

Movie
Blackout, Dropkick, Brawl- Their shoulders won't stay attached!
Voyager Megs- Too damn small.
Deluxe Jazz- Too damn big.

Universe Dinobot- Crappy Dino mode.

ROTF Preview BB- Alt mode wouldn't stay together w/o some fixes.

tom brokaw wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:

Blurrz wrote:Animated Starscream. This toy just gives me pure agony. Parts keep falling off and getting him completely into alternate mode is a bloody hay day.

I completely agree. Right out of the box he was a piece of junk.

hmm. i was thinking about picking him up.... but now im reconsidering

To be fair, my opinion was also skewed by the fact that I unknowingly bought a repackaged return. One hand fell off IMMEDIATELY when I pulled him out of the box. However, even with the knowledge I would not buy him again-not even at deluxe prices. Essentially, he turned into a non-transforming figurine in my collection. Opinions may vary though.

tom brokaw wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:

Blurrz wrote:Animated Starscream. This toy just gives me pure agony. Parts keep falling off and getting him completely into alternate mode is a bloody hay day.

I completely agree. Right out of the box he was a piece of junk.

hmm. i was thinking about picking him up.... but now im reconsidering

If you're a fan of TFA and TFA Starscream, I would recommend the Voyager version. However, there a few criticisms that I have.

1) Loose legs. It seems to be a common issue but if you aren't opposed to putting crazy glue on the pegs to tighten them up, it's an easy fix. My Voyager Starscream is great after that fix. I know many feel like they shouldn't have to fix something they bought brand new but it's either that or skip a potentially good figure.

2) No wrist articulation or elbow artculation beyond just bending(no rotational action). Starscream can clutch a fist or hold a hand pose of menacingly curled fingers but nothing more dynamic. He's best suited for doing bicep curls or holding a skull(Alas, poor Yorick!).

3) A chunky alt mode. The Alt mode is the weaker than the robot mode, which is pretty darn good. However, I like the alt mode but it isn't very show accurate due to its bulky nature so some may take issue with that.

4) Arm cannon placement. Due to the figure's design, the arm cannons aren't show accurate. If they were placed on the upper arms, they would restrict the already mediocre arm articulation even further. Because of that, though, I don't mind them being on the forearms and designed as they are.

UNIVERSE GALVATRON!!!

Cool transformation, but thats it. UGLY!!! Good God in heaven!! He even looks retarded! Galvatron is supposed to look menacing, not like he's about to drool! He looks like I could beat him!!! And a tank?! wtf? Galvatron does not look good as a tank. Big ass cannon, futuristic Jet, fururistic car, submarine, ufo whatever, but not a tank. Galvatron needs to be something with rounded edges, not squared like with a puny earth mode. And he needs to be BIG!! Like he could step on bumblebee. And the quality.. the quality... the complete LACK of quality...

H0rdak wrote:UNIVERSE GALVATRON!!!

Cool transformation, but thats it. UGLY!!! Good God in heaven!! He even looks retarded! Galvatron is supposed to look menacing, not like he's about to drool! He looks like I could beat him!!! And a tank?! wtf? Galvatron does not look good as a tank. Big ass cannon, futuristic Jet, fururistic car, submarine, ufo whatever, but not a tank. Galvatron needs to be something with rounded edges, not squared like with a puny earth mode. And he needs to be BIG!! Like he could step on bumblebee. And the quality.. the quality... the complete LACK of quality...

What do you think about Galvatron's quality at least? How do you feel as far as that's concerned?

I'd like to hear about quality issues too. My Universe Galvatron has a loose right knee joint. Everything else is nice and tight, though.

For now, i would have to say Blaze Master!! transformation i think was hard and now matter how you finessed his arms they still would pop off!! so he's looks better on shelf in alt mode, than in my cabinet wasting space....

2007 movie jazz G1 repaint.... nice try, but it just looks so ugly

Dagon wrote:

H0rdak wrote:UNIVERSE GALVATRON!!!

Cool transformation, but thats it. UGLY!!! Good God in heaven!! He even looks retarded! Galvatron is supposed to look menacing, not like he's about to drool! He looks like I could beat him!!! And a tank?! wtf? Galvatron does not look good as a tank. Big ass cannon, futuristic Jet, fururistic car, submarine, ufo whatever, but not a tank. Galvatron needs to be something with rounded edges, not squared like with a puny earth mode. And he needs to be BIG!! Like he could step on bumblebee. And the quality.. the quality... the complete LACK of quality...

What do you think about Galvatron's quality at least? How do you feel as far as that's concerned?

Well, don't know if this is just my galvatron or universal issues with this figure, but mine fell apart while opening up the package.. the little flap thing with hooks on it on the front of the tank, was on there when in package, after i opened it up it was gone.. meaning it had dissapeared, I could not find it anywere. his arm (the one without the cannon) will not stay on, it actually pops out by it self! I can leave it on my desk in robot mode, next day the arm lays next to him. His waist and hip joints are floppy as all hell, and the same goes for his chest piece.
I don't know, maybe its because I rarely buy anything that's not G1, and I'm not used to having to fix the transformers I buy NEW! but this is bad work in my opinion. somebody left their office to early or something.

gestalt Superion

disappointing, falls apart easily, expensive, too big,
simply not worth all the hassle.

H0rdak wrote:

Dagon wrote:

H0rdak wrote:UNIVERSE GALVATRON!!!

Cool transformation, but thats it. UGLY!!! Good God in heaven!! He even looks retarded! Galvatron is supposed to look menacing, not like he's about to drool! He looks like I could beat him!!! And a tank?! wtf? Galvatron does not look good as a tank. Big ass cannon, futuristic Jet, fururistic car, submarine, ufo whatever, but not a tank. Galvatron needs to be something with rounded edges, not squared like with a puny earth mode. And he needs to be BIG!! Like he could step on bumblebee. And the quality.. the quality... the complete LACK of quality...

What do you think about Galvatron's quality at least? How do you feel as far as that's concerned?

Well, don't know if this is just my galvatron or universal issues with this figure, but mine fell apart while opening up the package.. the little flap thing with hooks on it on the front of the tank, was on there when in package, after i opened it up it was gone.. meaning it had dissapeared, I could not find it anywere. his arm (the one without the cannon) will not stay on, it actually pops out by it self! I can leave it on my desk in robot mode, next day the arm lays next to him. His waist and hip joints are floppy as all hell, and the same goes for his chest piece.
I don't know, maybe its because I rarely buy anything that's not G1, and I'm not used to having to fix the transformers I buy NEW! but this is bad work in my opinion. somebody left their office to early or something.

I was just kidding. My Galvatron was the same way, but he just stands around in bot mode so it doesn't bother me at all. I just figured, since you mentioned 'quality' three times in the same sentence, with increasing dissatisfaction each time, you know, I was joking.

Nemesis Destron wrote:

tom brokaw wrote:id say cybertron metroplex.... he's just big and boring.... kind of a disappointment

I gotta agree with Tom Brokaw...it was a disappointment! I actually keep him in bot mode with zero desire to change him to his sad transport mode. His weopan is even sadder too. I think deep down he really wanted to be a Constructicon with his ready dual saw and shovel!

Another disappointment was Energon Wing Saber. Because of his design when in jet mode the weight from both sides sort of gave way to the separating center. And when in bot mode he looks like he can only move his wrists if you check out the gallery. It leaves little for decent posability...'nuff said!!

Same here - big plastic hunk of boring in my opinion. Would you believe it,I actually got him for his weapon? Sparkdrinker quickly became boring. At the very least I have the shiny chromed legends Optimus Prime boxed with the Takara version of Metroplex (pretty okay for a Legends-class figure).

Warbreaker wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:

tom brokaw wrote:id say cybertron metroplex.... he's just big and boring.... kind of a disappointment

I gotta agree with Tom Brokaw...it was a disappointment! I actually keep him in bot mode with zero desire to change him to his sad transport mode. His weopan is even sadder too. I think deep down he really wanted to be a Constructicon with his ready dual saw and shovel!

Another disappointment was Energon Wing Saber. Because of his design when in jet mode the weight from both sides sort of gave way to the separating center. And when in bot mode he looks like he can only move his wrists if you check out the gallery. It leaves little for decent posability...'nuff said!!

Same here - big plastic hunk of boring in my opinion. Would you believe it,I actually got him for his weapon? Sparkdrinker quickly became boring. At the very least I have the shiny chromed legends Optimus Prime boxed with the Takara version of Metroplex (pretty okay for a Legends-class figure).

I love Energon Wing Saber but it's because I consider it a glorified combiner add on rather than a proper figure. Let's face it, the alt and robot modes were shoe horned into the design. It's ultimately an add on for Energon Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy. As an alt, it's cool from above if you like flying wings. From any other angle, it's ugly as sin double dipped in that's-so-wrong(tm). As a bot, it's a brick with even worse articulation than Armada Overload. As an add on for Energon OP, it's pretty cool and only redeeming feature in my opinion.

My only problem with Armada Sideswipe and most modern TF cars is I want them to be bsaics to fit in with the Diaclones instead of the deluxes they are.

I also like Movie Payload, Universe Galvatron and Cloudburst was one of my first and favourites as a kid.

I despise most Mini-cons. Sometimes I feel their hideousness inspired the movie aesthetic.

I mean along with Star Wars and the Marvel Crossovers, what's with all these TF's that don't look like TFs these days? It's the heads in all cases that ruin them.

Do not for the life of me know why I bought Armada Scavenger.

Pretender Classics Grimlock.

Hate Armada Demolisher and Rhinox's grimaces. Hate Snowcat's head. Pity cause they all have great alt modes.

G1 Combiners, all too small. Thank Primus for KO oversized Bruticus.

Dagon wrote:

H0rdak wrote:

Dagon wrote:

H0rdak wrote:UNIVERSE GALVATRON!!!

Cool transformation, but thats it. UGLY!!! Good God in heaven!! He even looks retarded! Galvatron is supposed to look menacing, not like he's about to drool! He looks like I could beat him!!! And a tank?! wtf? Galvatron does not look good as a tank. Big ass cannon, futuristic Jet, fururistic car, submarine, ufo whatever, but not a tank. Galvatron needs to be something with rounded edges, not squared like with a puny earth mode. And he needs to be BIG!! Like he could step on bumblebee. And the quality.. the quality... the complete LACK of quality...

What do you think about Galvatron's quality at least? How do you feel as far as that's concerned?

Well, don't know if this is just my galvatron or universal issues with this figure, but mine fell apart while opening up the package.. the little flap thing with hooks on it on the front of the tank, was on there when in package, after i opened it up it was gone.. meaning it had dissapeared, I could not find it anywere. his arm (the one without the cannon) will not stay on, it actually pops out by it self! I can leave it on my desk in robot mode, next day the arm lays next to him. His waist and hip joints are floppy as all hell, and the same goes for his chest piece.
I don't know, maybe its because I rarely buy anything that's not G1, and I'm not used to having to fix the transformers I buy NEW! but this is bad work in my opinion. somebody left their office to early or something.

I was just kidding. My Galvatron was the same way, but he just stands around in bot mode so it doesn't bother me at all. I just figured, since you mentioned 'quality' three times in the same sentence, with increasing dissatisfaction each time, you know, I was joking.

You were? I'm a bit embarassed I've been searching around here a bit and found out universe Galvatron's suckage is pretty common knowlege.. and here I was thinking I was bringing some new information to the table

BWA HA HA HA HA!

Really? Those are the worst figures people here have owned?!?
I present: Bulletbike.

http://www.tfu.info/1995/Decepticon/Bul ... etbike.htm

I have a serious soft spot for this figure, but he is, objectively, the worst real transformer I've ever seen. Changes from boxy motorbike to fumble-painted, zero-articulation robot and back again! With crappy pull-back motor!

He's worse than Staxx?

http://www.tfu.info/1995/Decepticon/Staxx/staxx.htm

tom brokaw wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:Animated Swoop, he's flimsy and won't stay together. I've never been able to get his wings to attach to his back in robot mode and his head wont stay on. His pteranodon mode is terrible, it's got huge legs and tiny wings.

whew, i was about to pick him up the other day

he just got a bad batch mine is fine acualy a little tight!

I'd have to say universe galvatron he was a hunk of crap, so I transformered him into his new mode... starscreams throne! Post picks later.

Do the Chinese knock-offs my grandma bought me in the 80s count?

hippymule wrote:I'd have to say universe galvatron he was a hunk of crap, so I transformered him into his new mode... starscreams throne! Post picks later.

Hehe, classic!

cutienerdgrrl77 wrote:Do the Chinese knock-offs my grandma bought me in the 80s count?

Not really. They're like distant relatives that no one likes: They are related but no one acknowledges them.

cutienerdgrrl77 wrote:Do the Chinese knock-offs my grandma bought me in the 80s count?

If we're counting KOs, then the KO G1 Devastator giftset that I bought from Big Lot is an example. Mixmaster fell apart just as I took him out of the package. Then a lot of pegs don't fit at all w/o some hobby knifing.

G1: The Battlechargers Runamuck and Runabout. Zero poseability, touchy gimmick, cheap crap feel. Also, any Action Master. Blech! Bad idea.
Beast Wars: Retrax. Hideous robot mode and paint job. Permanently looks like he's being crucified by Pontious Primus.
Beast Machines: Silverbolt for almost total inaccuracy on every front from size to color to design. Same holds true for Nightscream, which is worse because he's so darn BIG, making his ugliness and poor, unbalanced design even more glaring. I could go on with Beast Machines, but I won't.
Armada: Scavenger. A brick with the worst leg design I have ever seen. Unless you balance him on his tiptoes, he leans forward, and his disintegrating rubber treads don't help. Sideswipe....ugly as sin, terrible leg design, terrible, pointless arm gimmick.
Cybertron: Thundercracker. I hate this one a lot. Cheap, fragile feel, and a left arm design that makes you go HMMM. You have all those wicked Cybertron figures, and there in the middle of them is...this. WTF?
Classics: Galvatron for all the afore mentioned reasons. Pure slag.
ROTF: Demolisher. Non poseable, ugly mess, that not even the uniqueness of the design can make up for. NO fun. He is seconded by Rampage, who is ugly, cheap feeling, and just looks WRONG. Doesn't even have FEET, wheel or otherwise, just a couple of stumps.
Hasbro has surely hit some clinkers over the years, but fortunately the sheer amount of good stuff outweighs these failed attempts.

Convotron wrote:

hippymule wrote:I'd have to say universe galvatron he was a hunk of crap, so I transformered him into his new mode... starscreams throne! Post picks later.

Hehe, classic!

cutienerdgrrl77 wrote:Do the Chinese knock-offs my grandma bought me in the 80s count?

Not really. They're like distant relatives that no one likes: They are related but no one acknowledges them.

O my font was messed up o well my bad. honestly diaclones were't knock offs they were the peices of junk that gave birth to bricks(g1 ) and evolved into the beautifull peices of art we see today (I wish) ha!