Black lives matter. 'Til all are one!

Thanks, Seib.

PS...I CAN'T BREATHE!

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

It's not politics, it's humanity. Please read it again.

I stand with those who stand against prejudice. Reading about all those lives that got snuffed out so carelessly, it makes me angry to think that it's 2020 and this is the world we have.

Your words stand strong.

Till All Are One
#BlackLivesMatter

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

Ummmm...
You're going to pull this Mod $#!% on Ryan (Seibertron)?
You got some set of bearings, kid!

Seibertron wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

It's a Transformers site. But it's my site. This is happening today here on Seibertron.com. This is MY form of protesting. There are a lot of other Transformers fansites out there if you want to hide under a rock and pretend that all of this isn't happening. Today, here on Seibertron.com, we are going to acknowledge the unfair treatment black people are continuing to suffer and hopefully some of you can come up with some things we each can do to help make the world a better place for people of all colors.

Here, here!
Well done, my boy!

UnderYourCloset wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

Ummmm...
You're going to pull this Mod $#!% on Ryan (Seibertron)?
You got some set of bearings, kid!

Ban me, idc. If me actually looking into things beyond a news headline, and actually caring about all the people suffering right now gets me kicked off, Idc.

That rage you feel... that is part of this too.
We know ALL LIVES MATTER.
But what they are saying is
SOME LIVES MATTER MORE &
BLACK LIVES MATTER, AS MUCH AS OTHERS.

Just calm down.
No one is forcing you to read any of this.
People just want to get involved and in touch with their community.
Even this community.
It's a safe place for us.
But to ignore this is folly.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment behind the post, and the circumstances surrounding the beginnings of this situation are awful, I cannot in good conscience support BLM itself. Not with their failure to properly condemn the looting, arson and general violence performed by rioters using the protests as an excuse to act like barbarians, not to mention their close ties with Soviet-founded terrorist group Antifa (recently exposed by Project Veritas). And that's before we start on the higher-up bad actors supporting the riots (see: magically appearing bricks) and bailing out rioters. The original cause is just, but what these protests have devolved into is utterly abominable and I cannot, and will not, support them.

I've always been hugely opposed to overreach of the law- I am wholeheartedly in support of the pro-democracy campaigners in Hong Kong being oppressed by the CCP for example- but there are a lot of lies and misinformation being peddled at the moment about this mess (from both sides), and it pays to be vigilant to avoid being deceived. There is a difference between the genuine peaceful protestors and the huge amount of violent thugs who just want a reason to cause mayhem.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. 'Till all are one.

UnderYourCloset wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:

UnderYourCloset wrote:All lives matter.

This is a Transformers site. I don't want **** political topics in the news.

Ummmm...
You're going to pull this Mod $#!% on Ryan (Seibertron)?
You got some set of bearings, kid!

Ban me, idc. If me actually looking into things beyond a news headline, and actually caring about all the people suffering right now gets me kicked off, Idc.

That rage you feel... that is part of this too.
We know ALL LIVES MATTER.
But what they are saying is
SOME LIVES MATTER MORE &
BLACK LIVES MATTER, AS MUCH AS OTHERS.

Just calm down.
No one is forcing you to read any of this.
People just want to get involved and in touch with their community.
Even this community.
It's a safe place for us.
But to ignore this is folly.

I just feel this is unwarranted. What happened was almost certainly not a race issue, so why the hell are people doing this **** now? Every creator I enjoy is doing this bullshit "anti racism charity" stuff when that makes 0 SENSE because HOW can sending money to some organization cause people to stop hating other people. Yes, racism is a real issue, and yes police should be more carefully selected. I feel like "restructuring the police force to prevent this from happening again" should be the cause to go for, not "**** the police". This situation is too **** complicated for a simple Transformers forum. You're not doing ANY "part", this is a pointless and frustrating endeavor.

It's not going to cure racism.
It's just not.
But it might help someone.
Just one someone.
Isn't that enough?
It's EVERYTHING to someone.

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First thing that needs to be said is a thank you to Ryan for addressing this. No matter our own personal views, the best way to achieve a solution to a problem is by discussion and a shared effort to reach a common goal.

The second thing that I need to say is that I'm white. Just so those reading my post have a frame of reference.

Black Hat wrote:Whilst I agree with the sentiment behind the post, and the circumstances surrounding the beginnings of this situation are awful, I cannot in good conscience support BLM itself. Not with their failure to properly condemn the looting, arson and general violence performed by rioters using the protests as an excuse to act like barbarians, not to mention their close ties with Soviet-founded terrorist group Antifa (recently exposed by Project Veritas). And that's before we start on the higher-up bad actors supporting the riots (see: magically appearing bricks) and bailing out rioters. The original cause is just, but what these protests have devolved into is utterly abominable and I cannot, and will not, support them.

I've always been hugely opposed to overreach of the law- I am wholeheartedly in support of the pro-democracy campaigners in Hong Kong being oppressed by the CCP for example- but there are a lot of lies and misinformation being peddled at the moment about this mess (from both sides), and it pays to be vigilant to avoid being deceived. There is a difference between the genuine peaceful protestors and the huge amount of violent thugs who just want a reason to cause mayhem.

Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. 'Till all are one.

This is largely how I feel as well.

If black lives truly matter to those taking part in this, why is no one speaking about David Dorn? He was black. He was murdered in the riots.

I don't subscribe to all the conspiracies surrounding this whole thing, but I'm not saying anyone else shouldn't. Believe what you want, it's your freedom to do so.

I do firmly believe there is systemic racism towards minorities, especially blacks, but I don't believe white people as a whole should be pointed to and said "it's your fault!" That's nonsense. The blame belongs on those who made the rules of our society 200 years ago. Not just the founding fathers, but the next few generations after them, when the United States was still a developing country. Then it was almost perpetually continued by those who make the rules and laws on both sides of the political spectrum, at least until the 1950s.

Being told to "educate yourself" is condescending and rude, and whenever I'm in a conversation and that phrase is thrown at me, I usually check out, because it reveals a lot about the other person's frame of mind and point of view. When I get told that it comes off as the other person looking down on me simply because I don't agree with what that person said.

George Floyd was a victim of a tragedy. But he was not innocent and not a hero. He didn't "change the world," like some have said. The cop that killed him sparked these events.

Same with Colin kapernik. I approved of his initial actions, but once he got the big money from both nike and the NFL, he became a fraud to me. I'm sure he gives a lot to charities, and he's still somewhat active in protests, from what I'm told. But I'm certain he sits on a lot of that money and is keeping it himself, which is wrong. He got that money due to the notoriety he received because of horrible events that happened to others. It's blood money. Until he gives it all to the cause he helped bring to the light, I will never respect him. And no matter how much his supporters want to claim this, he did not get blacklisted from playing football. He had opportunities befitting his talent level, and chose not to play.

Lastly, blacks (not all of them, just most of the ones who like playing the victim) need to stop putting all the blame on whites. Blacks cause plenty of damage to their own communities through their own actions and elements of their own culture, especially in entertainment. I know plenty of respectable and hardworking black people, and even they condemn these leftist loudmouths who are mostly looking for a handout under the guise of fighting inequality or pretend to be one of the oppressed, yet they sit in their million dollar mansions sipping champagne.

Yes, there's a serious racial divide in our society that needs to be healed. But just as it took both sides to rip it open, it will take both sides to bring it together.

White privilege exists mostly in largely white communities. I live in a town where 75% of the population is black. Here I'm not treated any better or worse than black people I know or am around in any public setting.

Antifa IS a terrorist group. If I am ever confronted by them, I will respond accordingly.