#Botcon2016 Combiner Wars Computron Gallery -- updated with robot mode pics!

I figured it out!!!!! Scrounge keeps the target master because the targetmaster is his special arm!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER ONE LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I figured it out!!!!! Scrounge keeps the target master because the targetmaster is his special arm!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER ONE LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except it's the wrong arm...

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I figured it out!!!!! Scrounge keeps the target master because the targetmaster is his special arm!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER ONE LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except it's the wrong arm...

At the Hasbro display, I asked John Warden about the little Payload redeco that comes with Scrounge, asking if it's supposed to be his Special Arm or if it's a new character. He chuckled at the idea of it being Scrounge's arm, saying that one could think of it as such, but then stated that it isn't a new character and is basically still just Payload.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I figured it out!!!!! Scrounge keeps the target master because the targetmaster is his special arm!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER ONE LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except it's the wrong arm...

At the Hasbro display, I asked John Warden about the little Payload redeco that comes with Scrounge, asking if it's supposed to be his Special Arm or if it's a new character. He chuckled at the idea of it being Scrounge's arm, saying that one could think of it as such, but then stated that it isn't a new character and is basically still just Payload.

I'm still saying it is his special arm....

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I figured it out!!!!! Scrounge keeps the target master because the targetmaster is his special arm!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER ONE LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except it's the wrong arm...

At the Hasbro display, I asked John Warden about the little Payload redeco that comes with Scrounge, asking if it's supposed to be his Special Arm or if it's a new character. He chuckled at the idea of it being Scrounge's arm, saying that one could think of it as such, but then stated that it isn't a new character and is basically still just Payload.

I'm still saying it is his special arm....

One could reconcile both together into saying that Payload transforms into the Special Arm.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I figured it out!!!!! Scrounge keeps the target master because the targetmaster is his special arm!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO OTHER ONE LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except it's the wrong arm...

At the Hasbro display, I asked John Warden about the little Payload redeco that comes with Scrounge, asking if it's supposed to be his Special Arm or if it's a new character. He chuckled at the idea of it being Scrounge's arm, saying that one could think of it as such, but then stated that it isn't a new character and is basically still just Payload.

I'm still saying it is his special arm....

One could reconcile both together into saying that Payload transforms into the Special Arm.

Special arm. The Primal has spoken.

Since Payload transforms into a blaster weapon, doesn't that make him Scrounge's "special arms" instead?

The real life reason is probably that the Micromaster is gangmolded with Cosmos, and Hasbro isn't too keen on "throwing away perfectly usable parts" but where's the fun in accepting that?

For some reason I'm drawn more and more to Hasbro's Nosecone. Probably because I consider him to be a "stand-in" member of some sort, along the likes of Alpha Bravo and Hasbro's Blast Off, being a straight redeco (with a switched out part). Look at him and tell me you don't agree:



A similar case can be made for Lightsteed/Lightstorm/Lightspeed, except it's from Autobot to Autobot, not switching factions:



... or maybe it's because I remember playing with a friend's G1 Nosecone at his house.

oi Hasbro let me buy Scrounge seperate from Computron! grr...

Carnivius_Prime wrote:oi Hasbro let me buy Scrounge separate from Computron! grr...

THIS

I also wouldn't mind if they released the hands and feet in various colors...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For some reason I'm drawn more and more to Hasbro's Nosecone. Probably because I consider him to be a "stand-in" member of some sort, along the likes of Alpha Bravo and Hasbro's Blast Off, being a straight redeco (with a switched out part). Look at him and tell me you don't agree:



A similar case can be made for Lightsteed/Lightstorm/Lightspeed, except it's from Autobot to Autobot, not switching factions:

These two are perhaps the easiest ones to accept as "second stringers" for the Technobots team. They are completely different molds with completely different looks compared to their Takara counterparts. Strafe has different molds too, but in his case, it reads more like two similar yet different attempts at the same outcome, while with Nosecone and Lightspeed, it feels more like two completely different takes on a similar concept. Does that make sense? Anyway, I like to think of Hasbro's Nosecone as "Screwdrive" and Lightspeed as "Warpspeed." Yes, I'm going to pimp those names every chance I get!

I just noticed this in the Fort Max display. It has me in tears

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

I did.
don't know why
I like it

william-james88 wrote:

Gearslide wrote:Just in case anyone wanted some nice comparison of the fresh Hasbro and Takara stock photos:

1st... will-j88 & gearslide... thank you so frakkin much. smart, real smart.

2nd... aside from Afterburner's colors...
TAK IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE!

I preordered mine already, but feel the need to share.

I look at Hasbro's one and I just don't see Technobots, except in their combined mode. Sure, they look nice, but they don't say Technobots to me.

Z3ROhour wrote:

[BW] Rainmaker wrote:Did anyone bother to buy Armada Megatron or is it just a shelfwarmer?

I did.
don't know why
I like it

I dont see what's not to like. It's a green tank, just like what Armada is supposed to be, and with working treads. It has minicon ports which make more sense to be on this version than the G1 deco. And you can position the back kibble to look just like the shoulder towers. He is an amazing homage to Armada Megs and I cant understand why nobody cares about him. This feels to me more that G1 simply sells more, thats all. Because objectively, this mold is a more loyal interpratation to Armada Megs than it is to G1 Megs.

For me there's kind of a few things that prevents me from really liking CW Armada Megs. I mean first the deco isn't quite as good as the Takara version but aside from that, it just doesn't exactly say Armada Megatron to me... just the way it transforms and the placement of all the tank parts - most especially the tank cannon - just says to me 'G1 Megatron cosplaying'. And then there's the fact that while with the Leader G1 Decepticons they can sort of go well together and sort of work as MP replacements, Armada Megatron does not scale at all with Generations Armada Starscream - it ends up looking extremely comical.

I find it interesting that the stock photos of Afterburner show him with Groove's head, but the actual toy in the display has Takara's Afterburner head. Also, is this coming to U.S and, possibly, Canadian retail?

Is Scrounge being released seperately this fall? Or will I be buying him off ebay for $50 or more?

1984forever wrote:Is Scrounge being released seperately this fall? Or will I be buying him off ebay for $50 or more?

Scrounge only comes with Computron.

Hasbro only did him cuz their Computron needed a Legends figure like most of their other CW combiners.

Genericon #378 wrote:I find it interesting that the stock photos of Afterburner show him with Groove's head, but the actual toy in the display has Takara's Afterburner head. Also, is this coming to U.S and, possibly, Canadian retail?

Toysrus and Walmart in Canada are getting all the COmbiner Wars boxsets so we will get this one too. We even got G2 Menasor and G2 Superion before the US

What Canada probably wont get is Deluxe Groove. We didnt get Slingshot and Wildrider last time, they had to be ordered from the states.

1984forever wrote:Is Scrounge being released seperately this fall? Or will I be buying him off ebay for $50 or more?

You will have to buy him off e-bay if you want him individually.

Not only do I like CW Armada Megatron, I'm still waiting for a Generations Armada Galvatron. I love how you can get all recent treaded tank Megatron toys in both green and grey/silver in every current size class now (or upcoming).

Legends/legion:
G2 Megatron and EZ Chronicles Megatron.

New Legends:
Crossovers G2 Megatron and generations Megatron or better yet, TG28 Megatron.

Deluxe:
Classics deluxe Megatron and special edition Megatron.

Voyager:
GDO Megatron and Cloud Megatron.

New Leader:
Armada Megatron and G1 Megatron.

Computron is still going to be mix and match for me. Takara Nosecone all the way. Hasbro Afterburner with Takara Afterburner's guns (since there's red on the Hasbro version anyway) as I like the orange more and how it helps to bring the yellow from Nosecone and the guns of Strafe into Computron better. Hasbro Strafe as I love those wings and the sleeker fighter jet look overall and for the Scrounge integration for even more yellow. Takara Lightspeed (I was going to go Hasbro and use Takara's as a lazy Sideswipe with a new chest and head from Shapeways but I decided against it after seeing Hasbro's in robot mode as it's too much white for my image of Lightspeed). I'm not decided on Scattershot now. I appreciate the new chests and head (although the head can be switched since I'm getting both) but I like the blue paint on the Hasbro version. Maybe I'll switch the heads and go with Hasbro or maybe I'll like the new chests more once I have them in hand.

Hasbro Nosecone, Takara Strafe and now Hasbro Lightspeed are still going to be the Powerdashers for me. I don't care if the colors don't match up entirely but they're pretty close as is. I don't know what I'm going to do with Takara Afterburner or the unused Scattershot yet. I was going to get retail Scattershot and build Betatron but maybe I'll skip it and just use the Hasbro Computron's Scattershot for Betatron instead. I still have time to figure everything out and then as much time as I want after I have them.

Z3ROhour wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gearslide wrote:Just in case anyone wanted some nice comparison of the fresh Hasbro and Takara stock photos:

1st... will-j88 & gearslide... thank you so frakkin much. smart, real smart.

2nd... aside from Afterburner's colors...
TAK IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE!

I preordered mine already, but feel the need to share.

So, we can either get a lackluster boxy and awesome hands and feet, or a great body and awful monkey hands.

I know it's a while away but I'm wondering if somebody would be willing to break up this set?

Y'know, I find that if you cover the heads with your thumbs... suddenly the two Computrons look much more alike. The only big difference becomes the colours, chest detailing and Nosecone - and uh Scrounge but y'know.
So considering you can get a PE set with a new head for the same price as import charges... it basically becomes choose which leg-mode Nosecone you like better, which limb colours you like better and which chest detailing you like better. Also, it brings the hands and feet into more consideration.
The head is really the only thing about Hasbro's Computron that's really bad and really messing up the idea of him being Computron.

I honestly believe that were Takara!Scattershot released separately or used for the Hasbro set, a lot fewer people would have a problem with Hasbro Computron.

Really wish the Reflector set had made it to retail, or something; they're so versatile, I mean, they have a hover cannon mode, a targetmaster mode, and a combined mode, on top of one of the best bot modes ever. Such wasted potential

Both of those Computrons look really cool, but as much as I want Scrounge (I never found a Cosmos in my region), I really do not want another Dead End mold in my collection. I've got Dead End, Streetwise, and Prowl already, and they're all starting to blur together!

Plus, Takara's Strafe is possibly the coolest retool I've seen in a while. I'd army-build that if it didn't cost an arm and a leg... Geddit 'cuz he's an arm or a leg?

Takara's Nosecone looks like shit as a leg, and the hands and feet on the Hasbro one look better. Personally, I'd save money and just get the Hasbro one.

Question: Which TF online retailers do you guys get preorders quickest from? I am trying to decide whether I should preorder stuff from TFsource, or BBTS, or somewhere else in the near future.

SillySpringer wrote:Takara's Nosecone looks like SHIZZLESNIT as a leg, and the hands and feet on the Hasbro one look better. Personally, I'd save money and just get the Hasbro one.

He looks like rook as a leg, except with a ridiculously sized kneecap - this can only be viewed as an improvement - it'll also slim up his arm mode's shoulder too (haha, fringe benefits )

The hfg's work as hands, their only shortcoming as feet, is using over-sized figures as legs, like breakdown and streetwise, they work well on well-proportioned legs, like the aerialbots, offroad and mirage

Skull Grin wrote:Both of those Computrons look really cool, but as much as I want Scrounge (I never found a Cosmos in my region), I really do not want another Dead End mold in my collection. I've got Dead End, Streetwise, and Prowl already, and they're all starting to blur together!

Plus, Takara's Strafe is possibly the coolest retool I've seen in a while. I'd army-build that if it didn't cost an arm and a leg... Geddit 'cuz he's an arm or a leg?

Nice pun, and welcome to the boards

Hellscream9999 wrote:Really wish the Reflector set had made it to retail, or something; they're so versatile, I mean, they have a hover cannon mode, a targetmaster mode, and a combined mode, on top of one of the best bot modes ever. Such wasted potential

They are 3 identical figures which have the exact same mold as shockwave. If you want this as a toy, just buy 3 shockwaves. Only the head and deco are different, but the toy and playability of the mold is the same. No reason to miss out on the fun.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Really wish the Reflector set had made it to retail, or something; they're so versatile, I mean, they have a hover cannon mode, a targetmaster mode, and a combined mode, on top of one of the best bot modes ever. Such wasted potential

They are 3 identical figures which have the exact same mold as shockwave. If you want this as a toy, just buy 3 shockwaves. Only the head and deco are different, but the toy and playability of the mold is the same. No reason to miss out on the fun.

Yeah, but, I always kinda liked reflector - for no reason that I can discern - so this would've been a cool set to get (plus the paint apps that actually made him look like a camera - that's an important part...)

Hmmm, well at least the last april fools day thing with Reflector did come true:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... tor/32575/\

They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Aw come on! They even had some more limbs planned and then shoved them onto funpub

I mean, hasbro released 's almost exclusively while funpub has released 's almost exclusively, couldn't there have been a balance? Still waiting on those goddamn seeker limbs

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Aw come on! They even had some more limbs planned and then shoved them onto funpub

I mean, hasbro released 's almost exclusively while funpub has released 's almost exclusively, couldn't there have been a balance? Still waiting on those goddamn seeker limbs

Takara could always do something on their own, though.

But doesn't rule it out completely somewhere down the line. After all, look at Thrust, Dirge and Thundercracker.

Insurgent wrote:But doesn't rule it out completely somewhere down the line. After all, look at Thrust, Dirge and Thundercracker.

If TT did it, I'd consider picking it up, assuming it were reasonably priced; not sure though, as the combined mode may be considered too 'flimsy' for a retail release, as it might feel unfinished...

Literally the only other redeco I want is Bluestreak. Because despite not having the big characteristics of Prowl - car door wings, window feet, hood rack - it really wins me over as a classics Prowl somehow. They made a Smokescreen but there needs to be a Bluestreak to complete it.

... and also Nexus Prime would be good. All the components for him exist dammit just make him

Kurona wrote:... and also Nexus Prime would be good. All the components for him exist dammit just make him

I've been waiting for him. I want the Primes, and Nexus is my favorite of the 13.

Kurona wrote:Literally the only other redeco I want is Bluestreak. Because despite not having the big characteristics of Prowl - car door wings, window feet, hood rack - it really wins me over as a classics Prowl somehow. They made a Smokescreen but there needs to be a Bluestreak to complete it.

... and also Nexus Prime would be good. All the components for him exist dammit just make him

I guess you could, except it would inevitably look like a bad bruticus cosplay, unless they changed the combined modes chest design, since it would be 3/5 of bruticus already with 2 aerialbots (which would actually make it 4/5 of bruticus, since he's using an aerialbot limb already) so it seems absurdly redundant. Plus, the bruticus torso is still kinda wibbly and squat, so it wouldn't be the tall, lean Nexus Prime we all deserve. Now, if they changed the torso to scattershot...

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Literally the only other redeco I want is Bluestreak. Because despite not having the big characteristics of Prowl - car door wings, window feet, hood rack - it really wins me over as a classics Prowl somehow. They made a Smokescreen but there needs to be a Bluestreak to complete it.

... and also Nexus Prime would be good. All the components for him exist dammit just make him

I guess you could, except it would inevitably look like a bad bruticus cosplay, unless they changed the combined modes chest design, since it would be 3/5 of bruticus already with 2 aerialbots (which would actually make it 4/5 of bruticus, since he's using an aerialbot limb already) so it seems absurdly redundant. Plus, the bruticus torso is still kinda wibbly and squat, so it wouldn't be the tall, lean Nexus Prime we all deserve. Now, if they changed the torso to scattershot...

I think you could easily get away with using the Hot Spot/Pyra Magna mold over Onslaught. The original torso vehicle mode Heatwave and Barricade had was never that well defined anyhow...

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Hold on there champ... Are you saying Counterpunch is the Wheeljack shell's alternate head?!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Hold on there champ... Are you saying Counterpunch is the Wheeljack shell's alternate head?!

Yes. It was said at the TCC Roundtable panel that Counterpunch is the pretooled head for Wheeljack, and that the backstory for the figure is that Punch's Counterpunch side finally took him over just as his original bio said he feared would happen.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Hold on there champ... Are you saying Counterpunch is the Wheeljack shell's alternate head?!

Yes. It was said at the TCC Roundtable panel that Counterpunch is the pretooled head for Wheeljack, and that the backstory for the figure is that Punch's Counterpunch side finally took him over just as his original bio said he feared would happen.

Sweet *updates list*

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Hold on there champ... Are you saying Counterpunch is the Wheeljack shell's alternate head?!

Yes. It was said at the TCC Roundtable panel that Counterpunch is the pretooled head for Wheeljack, and that the backstory for the figure is that Punch's Counterpunch side finally took him over just as his original bio said he feared would happen.

Sweet *updates list*

Yeah, Reflector, Ratchet, and Counterpunch were all given to the Club by Hasbro since Hasbro doesn't have any current plans to release them themselves.

Well, that scratches off one more unknown alternate head. So far we have:

Firefly & Quicklinger
Skydive & Starscream
Air Raid & Thrust

Drag Strip & Mirage
Breakdown & Sunstreaker
Wheeljack & Counterpunch
Dead End & Wildrider
Streetwise & Prowl

Offroad & Ironhide
First Aid & Ratchet
Swindle & Hound

So far I'm only missing Rook's and Brawl's alternate heads... if they even have one. I expected at least one to be used with Hasbro's Nosecone.

*EDIT* I'm only counting the ones built into the mold by original design. The likes of Trailbreaker, Victorion, Liokaiser and Computicon I consider "added on".

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:They'll eventually mass release reflector. Easy money to be made there.

The fact that the Club released this figure means that Hasbro has no current plans to release it on their own. It was Hasbro who even gave the figure to the Club, same as Ratchet and the forthcoming TFSS Counterpunch.

Hold on there champ... Are you saying Counterpunch is the Wheeljack shell's alternate head?!

Yes. It was said at the TCC Roundtable panel that Counterpunch is the pretooled head for Wheeljack, and that the backstory for the figure is that Punch's Counterpunch side finally took him over just as his original bio said he feared would happen.

Sooner or later, we all became what Counterpunch wanted us to be.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Well, that scratches off one more unknown alternate head. So far we have:

Firefly & Quicklinger
Skydive & Starscream
Air Raid & Thrust

Drag Strip & Mirage
Breakdown & Sunstreaker
Wheeljack & Counterpunch
Dead End & Wildrider
Streetwise & Prowl

Offroad & Ironhide
First Aid & Ratchet
Swindle & Hound

So far I'm only missing Rook's and Brawl's alternate heads... if they even have one. I expected at least one to be used with Hasbro's Nosecone.

*EDIT* I'm only counting the ones built into the mold by original design. The likes of Trailbreaker, Victorion, Liokaiser and Computicon I consider "added on".

Ramhorn and Tarantulas?