Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross

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As perhaps some companion pieces to the recently revealed MP-39 Sunstreaker and Legends Triggerhappy, Takara seems to have some upcoming products - confirmed by a receipt from Toy Scope and brought to us courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath! The Takara Legends line brings us confirmation of Misfire before his American counterpart even gets released; along with Sixshot, Broadside and Doublecross (otherwise known as Twinferno). Of course, we can expect all of these to be redecos and minor retools of the Hasbro products, with Misfire coming with a potentially-new-mold Targetmaster just like Triggerhappy, Kup and Hot Rod before him. And finally, we have MP-12+ Lambor (otherwise known as Sideswipe), giving confirmation that the Animation-Accurate MP+ line is indeed continuing after just Red Alert. Take a look at the receipt below and tell us what you think in the Takara Legends thread below! Or, if you're here for Sideswipe, feel free to peruse and join the MP+ thread instead!

Very important edit: Toy Scope's home page clarified that they made a mistake and that Misfire and Doublecross, surprisingly, share a designation. So below are the two corrections... one of which, once again, might surprise you.

LG51 Targetmaster Doublecross
LG52 Targetmaster Misfire

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Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885081)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on May 30th, 2017 @ 7:46am CDT

Kurona wrote:As perhaps some companion pieces to the recently revealed MP-39 Sunstreaker and Legends Triggerhappy, Takara seems to have some upcoming products - confirmed by a receipt from Toy Scope and brought to us courtesy of fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath! The Takara Legends line brings us confirmation of Misfire before his American counterpart even gets released; along with Sixshot, Broadside and Doublecross (otherwise known as Twinferno). Of course, we can expect all of these to be redecos and minor retools of the Hasbro products, with Misfire coming with a potentially-new-mold Targetmaster just like Triggerhappy, Kup and Hot Rod before him. And finally, we have MP-12+ Lambor (otherwise known as Sideswipe), giving confirmation that the Animation-Accurate MP+ line is indeed continuing after just Red Alert. Take a look at the receipt below and tell us what you think in the Takara Legends thread below! Or, if you're here for Sideswipe, feel free to peruse and join the MP+ thread instead!

It also says Targetmaster Doublecross. It was another post on their page.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885082)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 7:56am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:It also says Targetmaster Doublecross. It was another post on their page.

Thank you very much, article edited!

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885086)
Posted by galvatron00 on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:13am CDT

SIXSHOT!!!!!!

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885089)
Posted by Relic0037 on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:26am CDT

Good to know that Takara is going to do these. Hopefully, some pictures will come out soon to see if there is a major difference between these and their Hasbro counterparts to warrant the higher cost (especially in the case of Sixshot and Broadside).

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885101)
Posted by Randomhero on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:58am CDT

Relic0037 wrote:Good to know that Takara is going to do these. Hopefully, some pictures will come out soon to see if there is a major difference between these and their Hasbro counterparts to warrant the higher cost (especially in the case of Sixshot and Broadside).

Sixshot I doubt. Decales instead of stickers and will paint up his headmaster to actually be Jack which will make a helluva comic for him.

I can see them tweaking with broadside to do something with his jet but then again they've never modified any triple changers previously. They might just give him a closer deco

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885109)
Posted by LE0KING on May 30th, 2017 @ 9:38am CDT

Up for preorder at bbts.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885120)
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 30th, 2017 @ 10:53am CDT

So sunstreakers price is $109?
Based off the 12,000 thats by his name.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885126)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2017 @ 11:11am CDT

Deathsaurus1 wrote:So sunstreakers price is $109?
Based off the 12,000 thats by his name.

Yes thats his MSRP, but the only place that will have him at that exact price is Takaratomymall.

Other japanese retailers will have him lower and US based retailers wll have him higher to compensate the import.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885146)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 30th, 2017 @ 11:53am CDT

Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885148)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 11:59am CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

It makes sense to me because most of this line is doing the slightly-more-obscure-than-usual characters of G1 from the 1987 line - the Headmasters and Targetmasters from that year almost all represented. So the Monsterbots? Sure, that makes sense.
... but then they just done Doublecross, and not Repugnus (titan master which doesn't count notwithstanding) or Grotusque. It's a very random choice and I can only think it was either pretooling for next line, or someone in Hasbro's design team just really likes Doublecross and didn't have a hard time convincing the higher-ups that kids would love a double-headed fire-breathing dragon that turns into a good guy robot. With his RiD toy, that last one looks a lot more likely.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885163)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2017 @ 12:17pm CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

Hasbro was looking at the particular era of toys he came out in and he is fondly remembered as a toy by fans. If Hasbro released things based on significant screen time in the G1 show, we wouldnt have a giant Fort Max.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885167)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 30th, 2017 @ 12:20pm CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

He was in Maximum Dinobots.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885170)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 12:22pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

Hasbro was looking at the particular era of toys he came out in and he is fondly remembered as a toy by fans. If Hasbro released things based on significant screen time in the G1 show, we wouldnt have a giant Fort Max.

Well, screen time does not necessarily translate to importance. Optimus is in the G1 movie a lot more than Blurr, but his death is the entire catalyst around which Hot Rod's character pathos is formed while Blurr... uh... has the significant contribution of existing.
I didn't notice until Thew brought it up but Blurr does nothing in the movie. It's weird.

Anyway, the point he's trying to make is that Doublecross was never a significant character in anything, so it's weird he's getting a toy. The Headmasters at least featured heavily in all three series (Rebirth, Headmasters, Marvel) that had them and a handful of them continue to be big players in IDW. Doublecross... does not have that.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885214)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 30th, 2017 @ 1:14pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

Hasbro was looking at the particular era of toys he came out in and he is fondly remembered as a toy by fans. If Hasbro released things based on significant screen time in the G1 show, we wouldnt have a giant Fort Max.

Well, screen time does not necessarily translate to importance. Optimus is in the G1 movie a lot more than Blurr, but his death is the entire catalyst around which Hot Rod's character pathos is formed while Blurr... uh... has the significant contribution of existing.
I didn't notice until Thew brought it up but Blurr does nothing in the movie. It's weird.

Anyway, the point he's trying to make is that Doublecross was never a significant character in anything, so it's weird he's getting a toy. The Headmasters at least featured heavily in all three series (Rebirth, Headmasters, Marvel) that had them and a handful of them continue to be big players in IDW. Doublecross... does not have that.

I'm pretty sure one impetus for the designers of the titans reurn line is the 1987 catalog, as we're getting quite a few characters from it, and for Doublecross, it has been pointed out a few days ago that he does have a few mold peculiarities that could be used in a remold for a potential Abominus or Predaking component. Next year, I won't be the least bit surprised when we start getting some off the wall 1988 characters revisited. Landmine, Dogfight, Sky High, Bugly wouldn't shock me at all

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885229)
Posted by Relic0037 on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CDT

LE0KING wrote:Up for preorder at bbts.

Unfortunately, they didn't have any pics up last time I checked. Some will probably surface in a week or two.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885235)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CDT

Kurona wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:It also says Targetmaster Doublecross. It was another post on their page.

Thank you very much, article edited!

And that has to be a mistake, as Doublecross was a Monsterbot, not a Targetmaster. Me thinks they have him confused with Crosshairs and jumped to conclusions with the "Targetmaster" designation. Let's wait and see.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885241)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:40pm CDT

I enjoy these updated toys of lesser known characters from HasTak, even if I don't buy all of them. And so faithful to the source. The headmaster gimmick is an overkill though.

Doublecross actually seems kind of interesting, Dinobots and cassettes aside, it's usually the Decepticons that transform into beasts. Too bad there's no appropriate Hun-Grrr that he could pose against.

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885242)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:44pm CDT

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

With this post, I must bring up a ScottyP theory (which I find quite plausible, Mr. Savage)

The way this Headmaster thing works, the space left over for the pilot in both Weirdwolf and Twinferno is about the size of a combiner joint thingy. And Weirdwolf and Twinferno have no re-uses yet. So the ScottyP theory states that they are "pre-tools" for Power of the Primes, where both will have the headmaster hole replaced with a combiner joint, and can be used to make Terrorcons or Predacons or even Seacons (I think he only summized Terrorcons though). So much like how Dead End had his midsection combiner port ripped out and replaced with a cockpit, the reverse may happen with these guys, making a Rippersnapper or that 2-headed 4-legged dragon guy.

so, there may be real reason. And monsterbots are awesome (now where is my frikkin' Grotusque???)

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885247)
Posted by Randomhero on May 30th, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Still confused as to why Doublecross/Twinferno even got an updated figure in this line. I know he appeared in the japanese G1 episodes but I never saw them so no idea if he was important or not. He certainly wasn't in the west's cartoons or comics and the toy wasn't much good either. LOads of better characters they could have done.

With this post, I must bring up a ScottyP theory (which I find quite plausible, Mr. Savage)

The way this Headmaster thing works, the space left over for the pilot in both Weirdwolf and Twinferno is about the size of a combiner joint thingy. And Weirdwolf and Twinferno have no re-uses yet. So the ScottyP theory states that they are "pre-tools" for Power of the Primes, where both will have the headmaster hole replaced with a combiner joint, and can be used to make Terrorcons or Predacons or even Seacons (I think he only summized Terrorcons though). So much like how Dead End had his midsection combiner port ripped out and replaced with a cockpit, the reverse may happen with these guys, making a Rippersnapper or that 2-headed 4-legged dragon guy.

so, there may be real reason. And monsterbots are awesome (now where is my frikkin' Grotusque???)

I think the theory of some of these being made into combiners is ridiculous and just people who can't comprehend we just didn't get some combiners.

Here's a reason: why not?

Hasbro has always thrown out certain characters out of nowhere. Straxus, Thunderwing, black shadow, a a G1 lugnut. This is just Hasbro saying "who hasn't gotten a toy yet and we can have some fun"

Re: Confirmation of MP-12+ Sideswipe and Takara Legends Misfire, Sixshot, Broadside & Doublecross (1885286)
Posted by Desslok2201 on May 30th, 2017 @ 4:30pm CDT

Frankly, the idea that they're done with combiners because we just had some is ridiculous. One of the main recurring trends in this toy line since it's inception is that if something can be retooled or redecoed, it will be. I don't have an issue with it, but it's true. Also, no one said that combiners had to be issued solely under the flag of the combiner wars. There's no way you can look at the legs on the new Godbomber and think that they won't be used on a Road Caesar, or heavily retooled into Abominus or Predaking. It's not wishful thinking, it's simply economically reusing existing molds

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