First Look at Mirage in Transformers 7 Rise of the Beasts

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Ptotoman posted an image taken in Montreal of some Porsches. Those present at the news conference for Transformers 7 Rise of the Beasts have said that the cars in this image look exactly like what was shown to them when Mirage was introduced. That's right, Mirage, not Jazz. And that's exactly what Protoman states in the Tweet that included this image.

While people are hopeful that it means that Hasbro got the Porsche license for toys, please remember that movie licenses and toy licenses are independent. As we saw with Dino (the previous "Mirage), the Ferrari License that was obtained for the film did not translate to a Ferrari License for toys.

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Comment by TulioDude Jul 8, 2021

Looking nice.
I hope they keep Mirage a separate character from Dino.

Day 555 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

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Comment by TulioDude Jul 8, 2021

EDIT:Dang,double post

william-james88 wrote:That's right, Mirage, not Jazz.

I guess they don't want to use,for now,characters that were on the original 2007 film.

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Comment by ZeroWolf Jul 8, 2021

TulioDude wrote:EDIT:Dang,double post

william-james88 wrote:That's right, Mirage, not Jazz.

I guess they don't want to use,for now,characters that were on the original 2007 film.

That's pretty much it, so it won't interfere with the plot of the 07 film

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Comment by Fires_Of_Inferno Jul 8, 2021

I'm incredibly confused over how to feel about this. I'm excited because Bumblebee was good but I have a sense of dread that it's going to go back to how the bayformers style of movies and hearing classic character names attached to completely different alt-modes is adding to the bad feels.

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Comment by Deadput Jul 8, 2021

If Mirage is going to be a "shapeshifter" and take on other altmode forms anyways I feel like the complaints about him being a Porche is kinda moot even if it ends up being his main alt mode.

Plus we don't know what he will look like in robot mode, frankly when it comes to making a character look classic it's probably preferable if the focus is on the robot mode and general color scheme than the vehicle mode, I mean heck this happens with most characters all the time in the franchise.

The colors invoke Mirage well enough just as much as they would with Jazz, the two of them did both have white/blue in the first place, It's not like G1 Porche Jazz ever had this car's color layout either, the only direct things in common so far is that they are both Porche cars.

Mirage being a Porche here doesn't suddenly mean that Jazz as a Porche can't show up in a future movie which is also presuming Jazz isn't in this movie in the first place (I don't think we know either way) since it's not like we got the listing of the entire cast, we only have 4 announced Autobots (not including Maximals) so far and I find it unlikely that it's just going to be the 4 of them.

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Comment by DeathReviews Jul 8, 2021

Maybe he'll get ripped in half too....
As long as they don't depict him ridiculously like they did in 2007. "Yo yo yo, this be lookin' like a good place to crash!"

Somehow, even when Bay was depicting Autobots with the most obnoxious, over-the-top, stereotypical personalities, they STILL managed to strip them of any uniqueness or genuine character.

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Comment by Deadput Jul 8, 2021

DeathReviews wrote:Maybe he'll get ripped in half too....

Hey if he is at least an actual character like the character is so far to be described as then him dying is probably fine enough as long as it's a good death with an actual purpose in the film, when it comes to violent action movies like this not every character can make it out especially since reboot or not this will be several character's debut film. (Although that depends if Mirage is still Dino or not which would also presume this isn't part of a reboot anyways)

(Although I will give 2007 Jazz some credit, he at least had a tad of personality in the few lines he had as well as having some physical expression with his body language, overall I find him to be one of the most faithful Bay-film versions in comparison to the G1 counterpart, still a tad underused in 2007.)

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Comment by Betenoire Jul 8, 2021

I really wish they'd just come up with new names rather than use old ones if the model isn't going to be close to the original presentation (doesn't have to be exact)- Exceptions being Megatron cause no way a transforming toy gun gets sold in the US anymore and characters like Prime and Bumble Bee that have had so many different iterations now that for someone that version is their version. Even "To keep the trademark" is hollow given there is a Mirage exclusive coming out through Amazon which should satisfy trademark law.

I love G1, grew up with it, but honestly start making some new stuff already, or at least revisit stuff that hasn't been done to death in the last 10 years, which hopefully the Beast stuff in this film does.

-Still want some more Throttlebots though- Freeway has only had the one figure ever, or how about Searchlight who is in the same boat but is not a jerk.

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Comment by Betenoire Jul 8, 2021

Deadput wrote:Although that depends if Mirage is still Dino or not which would also presume this isn't part of a reboot anyways

At some point during these -prequel/reboot/TF continuity hasn't mattered ever anyway, so whatever they are going to be called- they are going to have to have everyone but Bumblebee go back to space. So maybe a line that Mirage is returning to his home planet at the end of the film?

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Comment by cruizerdave Jul 8, 2021

Well, at least they are consistent with just assigning names to characters at random.

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Comment by cruizerdave Jul 8, 2021

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I'm incredibly confused over how to feel about this. I'm excited because Bumblebee was good but I have a sense of dread that it's going to go back to how the bayformers style of movies and hearing classic character names attached to completely different alt-modes is adding to the bad feels.

Quoted for truth.
Bumblebee was a nice, simple little movie.
Now I'm afraid we're headed back to the "throw everything on the screen all at once" style of film making.

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Comment by Deadput Jul 8, 2021

Betenoire wrote:
Deadput wrote:Although that depends if Mirage is still Dino or not which would also presume this isn't part of a reboot anyways

At some point during these -prequel/reboot/TF continuity hasn't mattered ever anyway, so whatever they are going to be called- they are going to have to have everyone but Bumblebee go back to space. So maybe a line that Mirage is returning to his home planet at the end of the film?

Yeah continuity is dubious in these films but that's not really the point.

Regardless I mean, let's say Dino from DOTM and Mirage in ROTB are the same guy, DOTM never explains where the guy even comes from since he's just with the Autobots at the start of the film same with Que and Brains (However for the Wreckers it's explained in film that they came to Earth with the ROTF crew which probably means they were kept off the field the whole time)

So with that logic Mirage/Dino wouldn't even have to leave the planet at all since only the 2007 crew (Optimus, Jazz, Ratchet, Ironhide) and the ROTF crew (Sideswipe, Jolt, Arcee, Skids, Mudflap, and according to DOTM the Wreckers) are ever shown/mentioned to arrive on Earth at a certain point.

Although by this logic it means that Optimus and Arcee would have to leave Earth at some point, although in Arcee's case maybe she stayed on Earth as well since the Xantium crew were not mentioned by name outside of the Wreckers specifically and "second wave of Autobots".

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Comment by Deadput Jul 8, 2021

cruizerdave wrote:Well, at least they are consistent with just assigning names to characters at random.

A franchise tradition that's happened since Beast Wars and even before that with the toylines.

Going with Mirage specifically:

This is Mirage (Ok he's actually relatively similar to G1 Mirage)

This is also Mirage, they are a Minicon

This is also Mirage, he's a Decepticon boat

It's just a name, I don't see why Transformers names can only be limited to one version of a character.

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Comment by william-james88 Jul 8, 2021

cruizerdave wrote:Now I'm afraid we're headed back to the "throw everything on the screen all at once" style of film making.

I am sure with 5 factions battling it out, it will be a concise simple movie :lol:

Deadput wrote:Although by this logic it means that Optimus and Arcee would have to leave Earth at some point, although in Arcee's case maybe she stayed on Earth as well since the Xantium crew were not mentioned by name outside of the Wreckers specifically and "second wave of Autobots".

This was all explained away already by the producer of these actual films where someone asked him the question about how Optimus could be on earth in Bumblebee and then back again in the 2007 movie.

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oot/42709/

And I really don't get any talk of continuity. Most TF fans have been criticizing the Bay films for being garbage and having terrible continuity. So now to say that things don't add up to Bay's previous films or trying to find links implies that there is a continuity there and that is giving Bay waaaay too much credit. It was always nonsense and they are continuing this trend with Transformers 7. The Bayverse is not dead, Bayverse Bee is still around with his Bayverse head and Bayverse voice and camaro alt mode. But Bumblebee was good and this film being part of the Bayverse has nothing to do with how good or bad this film might be. Just not sure about how it won't be a giant clusterf*ck.

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Comment by Deadput Jul 8, 2021

I mean...this is coming from Lorenzo

A guy who is known to lie from time to time about the details around the films or just talks like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Funny enough he's the only one who is saying it's a full on prequel, the director of the film itself is more so saying that the film is it's own thing. (But that was more so about standing on it's own as a film rather then continuity)

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Comment by william-james88 Jul 8, 2021

Deadput wrote:I mean...this is coming from Lorenzo

A guy who is known to lie from time to time about the details around the films or just talks like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Funny enough he's the only one who is saying it's a full on prequel, the director of the film itself is more so saying that the film is it's own thing. (But that was more so about standing on it's own as a film rather then continuity)

I am just reporting the news. If paramount drops the numbering and says that they are starting a completely new film series unrelated to Bayverse than I will go with that. Till then, I'll stick with the facts and report things as they are. Which in this case is frustratingly and purposefully ambiguous.
But really, none of this matters, it never did. let's just treat and judge this movie on it's own as we have done for the other films.

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Comment by Deadput Jul 8, 2021

I mean yeah, I don't care much either way outside of hoping it's a good film mainly, if it's part of the Bayverse it's fine it's just that I find it a bit of a wasted opportunity for a fresh start as well as creatively limiting for the team for future movies and who they can use but if they can make a good film either way that would be nice.

I just don't take what Lorenzo says "literally" as anything more then his own opinion/interpretation of the films.

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Comment by Betenoire Jul 8, 2021

Deadput wrote:
Regardless I mean, let's say Dino from DOTM and Mirage in ROTB are the same guy, DOTM never explains where the guy even comes from since he's just with the Autobots at the start of the film same with Que and Brains (However for the Wreckers it's explained in film that they came to Earth with the ROTF crew which probably means they were kept off the field the whole time)

TLK never explained how Galvatron became Megatron again. I'm going to guess if neither the screen writers nor studio cared enough to explain that one, Dino/Mirage is probably not high on the list of needing to be stated, as outside the core base few probably even will notice. And the ROF writers forgot Blackout was dead, so here is Grindor whose screen time mostly amounts to being Kurgan'd by Prime's Conner MacLeod. macleod

So like the G1 show, sometime bots just show up and then disappear and no one seems to notice or care except the people who think the toys are cool.

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Comment by TulioDude Jul 8, 2021

Betenoire wrote:I

I love G1, grew up with it, but honestly start making some new stuff already, or at least revisit stuff that hasn't been done to death in the last 10 years, which hopefully the Beast stuff in this film does.

I understand how you feel and to give HasTak/Paramount/the movie crew credit,they have show ability to create new stuff or reinvent characters.
From 2007 with Barricade and Blackout to Bumblebee with Shatter and Dropkick.

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Comment by First-Aid Jul 8, 2021

Betenoire wrote:I love G1, grew up with it, but honestly start making some new stuff already, or at least revisit stuff that hasn't been done to death in the last 10 years, which hopefully the Beast stuff in this film does.

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