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First Look at Target Exclusive Studio Series 86 Dying Ratchet

Posted by william-james88 Mar 10, 2024 at 11:45am CDT 100,970 views
We know we are getting a dying (or dead or battle damaged, however you prefer calling it) Brawn and Ratchet 2 pack and it will be exclusive to Target, just like the previous one was. And now we may have our first look at the Ratchet figure, which comes to us from a facebook post. It is basically a redeco of the Ironhide we got like this but with a new head for Ratchet. Below is the image along with the product number for those interested.



TRA BB GEN SS 2 PACK VOY 86 RATCHET, & DLX 86 BRAWN (battle damaged)
Product Number: F9878
First Look at Target Exclusive Studio Series 86 Dying Ratchet
First Look at Target Exclusive Studio Series 86 Dying Ratchet

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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 10, 2024
That Ratchet was obvious. What I want to see is Brawn.
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Comment by Stormshot_Prime Mar 10, 2024
If they’re going to keep doing dying/dead Autobot from the movie, I really hope we get a Windcharger too! Would be cool to see a new mold or maybe a reuse of his PotP fig.
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Comment by noctorro Mar 10, 2024
Roadbuster wrote:Just picked this guy up at Target. I read a story they were starting to appear in US retail. Keep tour eyes peeled if you haven't gotten SS86 Snarl yet.


I kindof want them all, but in Holland they are expensive as hell.
A normal is 60 to 70 euro's. And I missed out on Grimlock and Slag already and Slag is unpayable on the secondary market.
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Comment by Darth Zax Mar 10, 2024
noctorro wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:Just picked this guy up at Target. I read a story they were starting to appear in US retail. Keep tour eyes peeled if you haven't gotten SS86 Snarl yet.


I kindof want them all, but in Holland they are expensive as hell.
A normal is 60 to 70 euro's. And I missed out on Grimlock and Slag already and Slag is unpayable on the secondary market.


There are some good Dutch webshops with far better prices than the brick and mortar stores.
I don't know if I'm allowed to post them here, but a quick google search will bring up a few.
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 10, 2024
Darth Zax wrote:
noctorro wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:Just picked this guy up at Target. I read a story they were starting to appear in US retail. Keep tour eyes peeled if you haven't gotten SS86 Snarl yet.


I kindof want them all, but in Holland they are expensive as hell.
A normal is 60 to 70 euro's. And I missed out on Grimlock and Slag already and Slag is unpayable on the secondary market.


There are some good Dutch webshops with far better prices than the brick and mortar stores.
I don't know if I'm allowed to post them here, but a quick google search will bring up a few.


Post 'em shops. If they do have ANY official merch in store, post them links! More hunting grounds is always welcome. Even local independent shops.

For example, anyone who live in Laval or Montreal, Canada, should have a look at Geek Stuff. They don't sell anything internationally and it's better to go over there in person.
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Comment by Solrac333 Mar 10, 2024
First look at a future clearance item.
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Comment by Rodimus Prime Mar 11, 2024
william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:Just picked this guy up at Target. I read a story they were starting to appear in US retail. Keep tour eyes peeled if you haven't gotten SS86 Snarl yet.
I have all 4 as well, they look great together. For me, Snarl has the best-looking bot mode but the worst dino mode.


The worst looking dino mode to me is Sludge's. It's really hard for me not to see that huge gap under him and how neatly his toes could have fit there.
I can get past that easier than Snarl's head that's split down the middle. Yes I know the G1 figure was the same way, but it still looks dumb. And due to the leader size it's even more prominent.
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Comment by Emerje Mar 11, 2024
Solrac333 wrote:First look at a future clearance item.

Or first look at something that you never see in stores. Not every store got these and they didn't hit clearance online.

Emerje
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Comment by o.supreme Mar 11, 2024
So obviously, Hasbro likes to make $$$, and use the tooling as much as they can. In addition, I wonder if we will get a "dead" SS86 Wheeljack & Windcharger (would have to be a new mold) set?

Also, just to be fair, we could get a Battledamaged/Dead Insecticons 3-pack, or a Battledmaged/Dead Thundercracker/Skywarp set (Earthrise repaints/retools) .

I know this is a bit of a hot take, but after watching TF:TM countless times, over the past 38 years; while Megatron was obviously still (barely) functional when he was reformatted by Unicron into Galvatron (and thus retains the memories of his former self). I do honestly believe Thundercracker, Skywarp, & The Insecticons were truly dead, their sparks extinguished. (They were drifting lifelessly, without movement) Unicron merely used their dead husks and created New Life. Thus Cyclonus, Scourge & The Sweeps are all new Beings and have no retention of who they formerly were.
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Comment by Nemesis Destron Mar 11, 2024
So I got Magnus paying $125 on eBay and with the flaws involved it's still a great figure replacing my Kingdom figure in my Neo G1 collection.

In the reviews I saw I forgot that a smaller weapon was included and I wondered why? I was then compelled to forward through the movie to check and I couldn't spot him wielding a smaller blaster so I wondered.

But I do feel his main gun should have been a fraction bigger IMO. :VEHI:
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 11, 2024
Nemesis Destron wrote:So I got Magnus paying $125 on eBay and with the flaws involved it's still a great figure replacing my Kingdom figure in my Neo G1 collection.

In the reviews I saw I forgot that a smaller weapon was included and I wondered why? I was then compelled to forward through the movie to check and I couldn't spot him wielding a smaller blaster so I wondered.

But I do feel his main gun should have been a fraction bigger IMO. :VEHI:


It's baffling you had to resort to eBay to get SS86 Magnus.

Was it under-produced?
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Comment by chuckdawg1999 Mar 11, 2024
o.supreme wrote:So obviously, Hasbro likes to make $$$, and use the tooling as much as they can. In addition, I wonder if we will get a "dead" SS86 Wheeljack & Windcharger (would have to be a new mold) set?

Also, just to be fair, we could get a Battledamaged/Dead Insecticons 3-pack, or a Battledmaged/Dead Thundercracker/Skywarp set (Earthrise repaints/retools) .

I know this is a bit of a hot take, but after watching TF:TM countless times, over the past 38 years; while Megatron was obviously still (barely) functional when he was reformatted by Unicron into Galvatron (and thus retains the memories of his former self). I do honestly believe Thundercracker, Skywarp, & The Insecticons were truly dead, their sparks extinguished. (They were drifting lifelessly, without movement) Unicron merely used their dead husks and created New Life. Thus Cyclonus, Scourge & The Sweeps are all new Beings and have no retention of who they formerly were.


Except there was an episode of Season 3 where Cyclonus is standing in front of a memorial statue of Skywarp and he looks up at it with a knowing gaze.
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Comment by o.supreme Mar 11, 2024
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Except there was an episode of Season 3 where Cyclonus is standing in front of a memorial statue of Skywarp and he looks up at it with a knowing gaze.


I presume you are referring to the Decepticon Crypt scene in "Starscreams Ghost" ? The instance you are referring to does not happen. probably Mandela effect ;) (There is a scene where Octane asks forgiveness for standing in front of Thundercrackers "marker", also he quotes Dirge (who is oddly alive in the same episode)). Lastly there's a statue that has a passing resemblance to Megatron, but that's about it.
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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 11, 2024
o.supreme wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Except there was an episode of Season 3 where Cyclonus is standing in front of a memorial statue of Skywarp and he looks up at it with a knowing gaze.


I presume you are referring to the Decepticon Crypt scene in "Starscreams Ghost" ? The instance you are referring to does not happen. probably Mandela effect ;) (There is a scene where Octane asks forgiveness for standing in front of Thundercrackers "marker", also he quotes Dirge (who is oddly alive in the same episode)). Lastly there's a statue that has a passing resemblance to Megatron, but that's about it.
And then there's this:



;)
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Comment by Till-all-R1 Mar 11, 2024
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:So I got Magnus paying $125 on eBay and with the flaws involved it's still a great figure replacing my Kingdom figure in my Neo G1 collection.

In the reviews I saw I forgot that a smaller weapon was included and I wondered why? I was then compelled to forward through the movie to check and I couldn't spot him wielding a smaller blaster so I wondered.

But I do feel his main gun should have been a fraction bigger IMO. :VEHI:


It's baffling you had to resort to eBay to get SS86 Magnus.

Was it under-produced?

Not sure if underproduced but it certainly shot through initial shipments as Amazon, BBTS, EE and Pulse are completely sold out. Even EE's preorders are sold out. So it's definitely difficult to get right now if you didn't preorder or was lucky enough to order it when Pulse had it in stock, and will be until it makes landfall in a couple stores. If it does.

Maybe they misjudged how many actually wanted a new more expensive version so soon on the heals of the last five releases by making few than they did for Motor Master. IDK.
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 11, 2024
Till-all-R1 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:So I got Magnus paying $125 on eBay and with the flaws involved it's still a great figure replacing my Kingdom figure in my Neo G1 collection.

In the reviews I saw I forgot that a smaller weapon was included and I wondered why? I was then compelled to forward through the movie to check and I couldn't spot him wielding a smaller blaster so I wondered.

But I do feel his main gun should have been a fraction bigger IMO. :VEHI:


It's baffling you had to resort to eBay to get SS86 Magnus.

Was it under-produced?

Not sure if underproduced but it certainly shot through initial shipments as Amazon, BBTS, EE and Pulse are completely sold out. Even EE's preorders are sold out. So it's definitely difficult to get right now if you didn't preorder or was lucky enough to order it when Pulse had it in stock, and will be until it makes landfall in a couple stores. If it does.

Maybe they misjudged how many actually wanted a new more expensive version so soon on the heals of the last five releases by making few than they did for Motor Master. IDK.


One thing is sure.

It's clearly not the same story as Rodimus Prime.
Poor guy was so unpopular, it's still possible to get in so many stores even now...
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Comment by o.supreme Mar 11, 2024
-Kanrabat- wrote:It's clearly not the same story as Rodimus Prime.
Poor guy was so unpopular, it's still possible to get in so many stores even now...


Yeah numbers are tough. Jetfire & Skylynx were so popular they were given a 2nd run (although 2nd run Skylynx is still available at Pulse). Rodimus is a great toy, but way overproduced. Although now, almost 3 years after its release, its finally getting an asking price slightly above retail on Amazon. Never saw it at B&M, but I know they were in abundance.

Motor Master was underproduced, so they had a 2nd run. Armada Prime -I have no idea. I never saw it at B&M, but I never wanted it, so I'm not sure if the supply/demand was sufficient, or if a lot of fans are still wanting it?

I'm almost certain the intent was ro re-release CC Rodimus at some point in SS86, perhaps for 2026, it might work, but it's going to be a hard sell and the MOQ will definitely be far less, unless they make a significant difference to the toy, which I'm not sure how TT/Hasbro could.

It could very well they were being conservative. Thinking that fans might not be willing to drop $100 on a New UM when they've already had 2 others in the past 3 years. But if the demand is there, hasbro has shown a pretty willing spirit, especially with CC and Titans, to reissue them if they are popular enough.
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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 11, 2024
To play devil's advocate, it could also boil down to the longtime resentment that dates back to the movie's original release.

Ultra Magnus was handpicked by Optimus to be his successor, and even looks like a Super Mode version of Optimus. In season 3, he even had a lot of cool hero movements where he took charge, got things done, and knew what he was doing.

Rodimus, on the other hand, was not picked by Optimus, and was the snot-nosed punk who got Optimus killed. In season 3, he instead had a lot of whiny moments of uncertainty where he struggled, stumbled, and didn't know what he was doing.

In other words, to those who still harbor this resentment after all these years, Ultra Magnus is viewed as "Optimus 2.0", while Rodimus is viewed as "Not-Optimus".
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Comment by -Kanrabat- Mar 12, 2024
For now, CC Armada Prime is "fairly balanced" in sales. Meaning he's still available at a few places, but at full price.

Ultra Magnus pretty much sold instantly and that was really unexpected. I'm sure they will make a second run of him sooner or later.

As for the upcoming CC G1 Optimus Prime, I predict that will be one that should be preordered right away. There will be more units produced for sure, but he'll still be one of those toy that you CANNOT wait for a sale. If anyone does, they'll miss out.
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Comment by Rodimus Prime Mar 12, 2024
If we do get a SS86 Rodimus, I hope it's not just a Kingdom repack, but an all-new mold where he uses his entire vehicle mode for the robot, like he did on screen. A larger version of the Titanium figure with a bit better engineering would work. But I'm sure it's wishful thinking, since it's easier to just rerelease the Kingdom figure, seeing as Hasbro never redecoed him so they probably still want to get more out of the mold.
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