Jorge Lendeborg Jr. Cast as Male Lead in 2018 Bumblebee Spinoff Film
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Re: Jorge Lendeborg Jr. Cast as Male Lead in 2018 Bumblebee Spinoff Film
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As for the new announcement, I see it as a negative. The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Comment by Rodimus Prime
Jul 12, 2017
Neither of those are valid reasons to have poor grammar.Deadput wrote:ebreacher wrote:
Do we need to have a Seibertron-sponsored lesson in punctuation? Seriously, I'm no grammar nazi... but this took ten times longer than it should have to read, when you have to go back and read stuff again to understand it.
Maybe English isn't his first language or he is a kid.
As for the new announcement, I see it as a negative. The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
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Comment by Kurona
Jul 12, 2017
Transformers is still an extremely profitable franchise, even if TLK bombed -- it's still set to have a few more movies confirmed in its future. I wouldn't say the franchise is terribly in danger, just that its not-quite-as-good-earnings from TLK forces it to think about new things to do to attract the numbers it had before.
And with all that in mind... I love that they got in a lesser-known actor. Give 'em more attention and let 'em fill out their CV more; I love seeing more emerging talent on the scene. Especially if as the press releases say this is supposed to be much more emotionally and character-driven than the previous 5 movies. Gives the actors a lot more to work with.
Also it's not an excuse, but being younger/not having English as your first language/having learning disabilities etc. is a good reason to go easier on someone for not having top-notch grammar. Just on principle though; not necessarily referring to the exact example seen here.
And with all that in mind... I love that they got in a lesser-known actor. Give 'em more attention and let 'em fill out their CV more; I love seeing more emerging talent on the scene. Especially if as the press releases say this is supposed to be much more emotionally and character-driven than the previous 5 movies. Gives the actors a lot more to work with.
Also it's not an excuse, but being younger/not having English as your first language/having learning disabilities etc. is a good reason to go easier on someone for not having top-notch grammar. Just on principle though; not necessarily referring to the exact example seen here.
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Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
Comment by william-james88
Jul 12, 2017
Rodimus Prime wrote:The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
Re: Jorge Lendeborg Jr. Cast as Male Lead in 2018 Bumblebee Spinoff Film
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No.
Comment by Va'al
Jul 12, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
No.
“There are less Transformers, dramatically less… We hired, purposely, Travis Knight who’s a very distinct filmmaker.
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Comment by Kurona
Jul 12, 2017
The problem isn't necessarily human characters themselves; there have been some legitimately great human characters throughout the franchise that you can fall in love with as much as the Cybertronians. It's just when they take too much focus and the film becomes less "Transformers" and more "The Adventures Of Sam Witwicky Featuring His Fancy Robot Friends From Outer Space".
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 12, 2017
Or like the last movie, "Cade Yeager and the Space Knights".Kurona wrote:The problem isn't necessarily human characters themselves; there have been some legitimately great human characters throughout the franchise that you can fall in love with as much as the Cybertronians. It's just when they take too much focus and the film becomes less "Transformers" and more "The Adventures Of Sam Witwicky Featuring His Fancy Robot Friends From Outer Space".
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AoE; Cade Yeager And The Evil Machinations Of The Goverment Plus Some Alien Gun Head Dude
Comment by Kurona
Jul 12, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:Or like the last movie, "Cade Yeager and the Space Knights".Kurona wrote:The problem isn't necessarily human characters themselves; there have been some legitimately great human characters throughout the franchise that you can fall in love with as much as the Cybertronians. It's just when they take too much focus and the film becomes less "Transformers" and more "The Adventures Of Sam Witwicky Featuring His Fancy Robot Friends From Outer Space".
AoE; Cade Yeager And The Evil Machinations Of The Goverment Plus Some Alien Gun Head Dude
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I personally think AOE had a lot fo Robot presence with Optimus being Co lead. he finally makes shit happen by taking the fight to the humans, and then saving the day at the end and even killing lockdown in the final showdown (after 2 earlier tussels where they are both center stage).
I personally would call that one AOE: Dont Fuck with Optimus Prime
But yes, TLK: Cade yeager and the Space Knights is totally apt.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 12, 2017
Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Or like the last movie, "Cade Yeager and the Space Knights".Kurona wrote:The problem isn't necessarily human characters themselves; there have been some legitimately great human characters throughout the franchise that you can fall in love with as much as the Cybertronians. It's just when they take too much focus and the film becomes less "Transformers" and more "The Adventures Of Sam Witwicky Featuring His Fancy Robot Friends From Outer Space".
AoE; Cade Yeager And The Evil Machinations Of The Goverment Plus Some Alien Gun Head Dude
I personally think AOE had a lot fo Robot presence with Optimus being Co lead. he finally makes shit happen by taking the fight to the humans, and then saving the day at the end and even killing lockdown in the final showdown (after 2 earlier tussels where they are both center stage).
I personally would call that one AOE: Dont Fuck with Optimus Prime
But yes, TLK: Cade yeager and the Space Knights is totally apt.
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I'm just glad that we're finally getting a human-focused story, it looks like.
Comment by Alpha Dominus
Jul 12, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
I'm just glad that we're finally getting a human-focused story, it looks like.
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Wasnt the last Knight human focused? We had not 1 but 2 chosen ones and they were both humans.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 12, 2017
Alpha Dominus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
I'm just glad that we're finally getting a human-focused story, it looks like.
Wasnt the last Knight human focused? We had not 1 but 2 chosen ones and they were both humans.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 12, 2017
Twas facetiousness, I believe.william-james88 wrote:Alpha Dominus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
I'm just glad that we're finally getting a human-focused story, it looks like.
Wasnt the last Knight human focused? We had not 1 but 2 chosen ones and they were both humans.
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Yup. At this point (well, a long time ago actually) I've grown weary of the "human dynamic" and forced interaction of these-for the extremely greater part-very unwelcome human characters. As I try desperately to find the silver lining in these films, I always tell myself, "It's for the good and greater exposure of the toy line."
Comment by Alpha Dominus
Jul 12, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:Twas facetiousness, I believe.william-james88 wrote:Alpha Dominus wrote:william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:The lead should be someone better known. After TLK, the Bee movie needs all the positive press it can use.
Shouldnt the lead be Bee himself?
I am glad he's not known. probably means he wont steal Bee's spotlight. Since when do we come to these films for their human stars?
I'm just glad that we're finally getting a human-focused story, it looks like.
Wasnt the last Knight human focused? We had not 1 but 2 chosen ones and they were both humans.
Yup. At this point (well, a long time ago actually) I've grown weary of the "human dynamic" and forced interaction of these-for the extremely greater part-very unwelcome human characters. As I try desperately to find the silver lining in these films, I always tell myself, "It's for the good and greater exposure of the toy line."
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The sad part is it isn't. The toyline is no longer the main source of revenue for the Transformers brand (revenue, not profit since we dont have the numbers for that). The Films doesnt exist for the purpose of selling a toyline, the toys are now just merchandise like toys for any other movie, like a minion fart gun. Some just happen to still transform and keep the tradition, which is great. But a movie or other media wont necesarily mean more toys. Look at the Gi joe films.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 12, 2017
Alpha Dominus wrote:Yup. At this point (well, a long time ago actually) I've grown weary of the "human dynamic" and forced interaction of these-for the extremely greater part-very unwelcome human characters. As I try desperately to find the silver lining in these films, I always tell myself, "It's for the good and greater exposure of the toy line."
The sad part is it isn't. The toyline is no longer the main source of revenue for the Transformers brand (revenue, not profit since we dont have the numbers for that). The Films doesnt exist for the purpose of selling a toyline, the toys are now just merchandise like toys for any other movie, like a minion fart gun. Some just happen to still transform and keep the tradition, which is great. But a movie or other media wont necesarily mean more toys. Look at the Gi joe films.
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Pretty much. Due to this, the movies are ironically the mainstream Transformers media with the most creative freedom -- it's not tied up by needing to advertise toys; they don't answer to Hasbro, Hasbro answers to them. They can do whatever they want as long as there's a fair number of Transformers in there. They don't need to show Optimus Prime's sweet new action feature or his awesome new upgrade... they just need to show Optimus Prime.
Comment by Kurona
Jul 12, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Alpha Dominus wrote:Yup. At this point (well, a long time ago actually) I've grown weary of the "human dynamic" and forced interaction of these-for the extremely greater part-very unwelcome human characters. As I try desperately to find the silver lining in these films, I always tell myself, "It's for the good and greater exposure of the toy line."
The sad part is it isn't. The toyline is no longer the main source of revenue for the Transformers brand (revenue, not profit since we dont have the numbers for that). The Films doesnt exist for the purpose of selling a toyline, the toys are now just merchandise like toys for any other movie, like a minion fart gun. Some just happen to still transform and keep the tradition, which is great. But a movie or other media wont necesarily mean more toys. Look at the Gi joe films.
Pretty much. Due to this, the movies are ironically the mainstream Transformers media with the most creative freedom -- it's not tied up by needing to advertise toys; they don't answer to Hasbro, Hasbro answers to them. They can do whatever they want as long as there's a fair number of Transformers in there. They don't need to show Optimus Prime's sweet new action feature or his awesome new upgrade... they just need to show Optimus Prime.
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And it can be as little as 15 mins in a 2 hour + film
PS: i do think they needed to show him in vehicle mode at least answer to Western Star who provides them free trucks. And its so lazy how they did it. no transforming just "here you go Optimus in vehicle mode". Now end the film.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 12, 2017
Kurona wrote:they just need to show Optimus Prime.
And it can be as little as 15 mins in a 2 hour + film
PS: i do think they needed to show him in vehicle mode at least answer to Western Star who provides them free trucks. And its so lazy how they did it. no transforming just "here you go Optimus in vehicle mode". Now end the film.
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Whatever the source of revenue or profits is for the official toyline, either way, it's these films that have the most mainstream exposure for regular folks. The implications of this are undoubtedly suited for another topic. I admit its mere conjecture, but be they coworkers, friends, family, acquaintances etc. most people are familiar with the existence of Transformers almost primarily from these movies.
Comment by Alpha Dominus
Jul 12, 2017
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Alpha Dominus wrote:Yup. At this point (well, a long time ago actually) I've grown weary of the "human dynamic" and forced interaction of these-for the extremely greater part-very unwelcome human characters. As I try desperately to find the silver lining in these films, I always tell myself, "It's for the good and greater exposure of the toy line."
The sad part is it isn't. The toyline is no longer the main source of revenue for the Transformers brand (revenue, not profit since we dont have the numbers for that). The Films doesnt exist for the purpose of selling a toyline, the toys are now just merchandise like toys for any other movie, like a minion fart gun. Some just happen to still transform and keep the tradition, which is great. But a movie or other media wont necesarily mean more toys. Look at the Gi joe films.
Pretty much. Due to this, the movies are ironically the mainstream Transformers media with the most creative freedom -- it's not tied up by needing to advertise toys; they don't answer to Hasbro, Hasbro answers to them. They can do whatever they want as long as there's a fair number of Transformers in there. They don't need to show Optimus Prime's sweet new action feature or his awesome new upgrade... they just need to show Optimus Prime.
Whatever the source of revenue or profits is for the official toyline, either way, it's these films that have the most mainstream exposure for regular folks. The implications of this are undoubtedly suited for another topic. I admit its mere conjecture, but be they coworkers, friends, family, acquaintances etc. most people are familiar with the existence of Transformers almost primarily from these movies.
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Comment by Microraptor
Jul 12, 2017
This franchise has been pretty good at casting unknowns so far, hope this keeps up the trend.
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Comment by Va'al
Jul 13, 2017
As part of the scheme to prevent production companies to employ studios and shooting locations abroad, we have news that the Paramount Bumblebee movie currently starting production has received a tax credit of $22M for its location in LA and California more widely - currently the biggest for a movie production. You can read more about it below!
In a major boon to local production, “Bumblebee,” the spinoff movie from Paramount’s “Transformers” franchise, will shoot in California with the help of a $22-million tax credit.
It’s the largest tax break awarded to date under a state program aimed at curbing so-called runaway production.
The new movie will film entirely in California, according to a Paramount spokesman. Production is expected to take place in the Los Angeles area as well as in Northern California, according to two people familiar with the project who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.
The production, described only in state records as the “Untitled Paramount Project,” has received preliminary approval to receive a state tax credit of $22 million, according to the California Film Commission.
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Comment by MGrotusque
Jul 13, 2017
I just hope with all the extra money they're saving with this tax credit they can treat the pre production crews well. Most shows really like to kick around the pre production crews pretty hard with unreasonable work schedules and conditions and blame it on budget issues.
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Comment by Va'al
Jul 13, 2017
Via fellow Seibertronian SnoopDawg, we have some potential casting choices for the Paramount Bumblebee prequel, already starring Hailee Steinfeld and Jorge Lendenborg Jr, as featured in The Hollywood Reporter. This looks to be an extremely young cast indeed, and with Spielberg reportedly involved in the production again, it looks like Paramount is shifting its efforts on a more targeted audience. Check out more info below!
Paramount's Transformers spinoff Bumblebee is quickly rounding out its cast, adding a handful of young actors including Jason Drucker, Abby Quinn, Rachel Crow, Ricardo Hoyos and Gracie Dzienny, who are in various stages of negotiations.
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The film will clearly feature a slew of young rising stars: Drucker was most recently seen in Fox’s reboot Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul. He’s repped by Coast to Coast and Industry Entertainment.
Hoyos starred on Degrassi: Next Class and also was seen in The Belko Experiment. He’s repped by Industry Entertainment.
Quinn starred opposite Jenny Slate in Gillian Robespierre's Landline, which played at Sundance and hits theaters on July 21. She also stars opposite Joey King in Radium Girls. She’s repped by CAA and Rebecca Kitt & Associates.
Crow has appeared on the TV shows BrainSurge, Big Time Rush and Figure It Out and voiced Carla in the animated film Rio 2. She’s repped by UTA and Untitled Entertainment.
Dzienny’s credits include TV series Zoo and Chasing Life. She’s repped by Innovative Artists and Inphenate.
