"Leaked from Cybertron" Images of Transformers Power of the Primes Swoop
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The previous films also sold terribly. They are notorious for still having stck from a previous movie line when the new movie rolls out, which did not happen with AOE and TLK.
Here are a few shelfwarmers for you
Also, FYI,the Bumblebee movie toys deluxes/voyagers/leaders will be part of the studio series line so there wont be an issue for shelfspace (if there is one).
Comment by william-james88
May 3, 2018
o.supreme wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:They are both labeled as "Transformers Generations" products and come in boxes with similar visual style and graphic design.
I assume you are referring to how the toys ship from the warehouse, not the packaging of the toys themselves?? -It could be, I don't know, but I do know that while some fans said there was nothing to be worried about with the Studio series taking up shelf space that could otherwise be used for PotP, I can say, this is NOW a legitimate concern of mine. I know this is supposed to be a *Best of the Best* from all 5 movies but...lets be honest, while I never collected any Movie based toys, the lines for the first 3 films seemingly sold fairly well, the last 2 however (AoE & TLK), were way overproduced and shelf warmed to near disgusting levels. Heck there are still some TLK toys clogging shelves of Targets, the only reason walmart got them out is because they clearance them out at up to 70% off. Hasbro should have taken a break with the movie line, I mean BB toys will probably start showing up around October. We could have enjoyed PotP until then. Of course I expect to see RiD15 toys on clearance next because those fugly Cyberverse toys I know are coming.
Studio series arrived way quicker, and in much greater quantities than I expected, and funny enough, they aren't moving.
The previous films also sold terribly. They are notorious for still having stck from a previous movie line when the new movie rolls out, which did not happen with AOE and TLK.
Here are a few shelfwarmers for you
Also, FYI,the Bumblebee movie toys deluxes/voyagers/leaders will be part of the studio series line so there wont be an issue for shelfspace (if there is one).
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Good to know the BB toys wont be another separate line. Also, we both agree Movie toys sold terribly, and were overproduced. The only difference is that there were 3 years between AoE and TLK, and there were only 2 years between the previous films, so obviously there was more spillover. Also I think more affirmative clearance was done by the last 2 movie lines to try to get them out of the stores, but like I said, TLK toys are still around. Also the other movie lines had additional assortments even after the movie was long gone, not so for AoE & TLK, those toys were bad enough, didn't need more of them.
Comment by o.supreme
May 3, 2018
william-james88 wrote:Also, FYI,the Bumblebee movie toys deluxes/voyagers/leaders will be part of the studio series line so there wont be an issue for shelfspace (if there is one).
Good to know the BB toys wont be another separate line. Also, we both agree Movie toys sold terribly, and were overproduced. The only difference is that there were 3 years between AoE and TLK, and there were only 2 years between the previous films, so obviously there was more spillover. Also I think more affirmative clearance was done by the last 2 movie lines to try to get them out of the stores, but like I said, TLK toys are still around. Also the other movie lines had additional assortments even after the movie was long gone, not so for AoE & TLK, those toys were bad enough, didn't need more of them.
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Comment by WreckerJack
May 3, 2018
I noticed that too. Most Studio series figures I saw at one time was 4 and wasn't even the full set. Of course I bought one though 
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2 weeks ago I walked into a walmart where I do my grocery shopping. They had a case fresh set of deluxes (8) Studio series. Yesterday I walked into the same walmart, after 2 weeks, the only difference was that some of the packaging had been beat up (especially one of the Bumblebees), but none of the 8 deluxes had been purchased. Oh and they got in SS Voyagers, that was new.
Comment by o.supreme
May 3, 2018
WreckerJack wrote:I noticed that too. Most Studio series figures I saw at one time was 4 and wasn't even the full set. Of course I bought one though
2 weeks ago I walked into a walmart where I do my grocery shopping. They had a case fresh set of deluxes (8) Studio series. Yesterday I walked into the same walmart, after 2 weeks, the only difference was that some of the packaging had been beat up (especially one of the Bumblebees), but none of the 8 deluxes had been purchased. Oh and they got in SS Voyagers, that was new.
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Comment by Brokebot
May 3, 2018
The price point they sell them for is irrelevant if they don't have any of them on the shelves. Around here, there's little to nothing of PotP's except those stores that got another wave 1 shipment. It's like the line has been abandoned in favor of those ugly-@ss Baybots that no one buys. 
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Upon first seeing this news, I thought I'd buy Starscream and skip Grimlock, but watching a couple of review videos last night made me flip-flop- Starscream looks not-bad in bot mode, but jet mode is just weak. Grimlock looks good in dino mode, and great in bot mode. Going to grab him, and if it's at $10, better.
Comment by Hip-Hoptimus Rime
May 3, 2018
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian Reluctantyouth, we have news that the Power of the Primes voyagers have apparently gone on sale!
Upon first seeing this news, I thought I'd buy Starscream and skip Grimlock, but watching a couple of review videos last night made me flip-flop- Starscream looks not-bad in bot mode, but jet mode is just weak. Grimlock looks good in dino mode, and great in bot mode. Going to grab him, and if it's at $10, better.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 3, 2018
Funny thing is, I haven't seen a single wave 1 voyager in a Walmart in over 3 months. I saw Elita and Hun Gurr once each back in February, but they are the last PotP voyagers I have seen in store.
And I've only seen a single SS Crowbar too. A lot of the stores around me have surplus Dreadwinds, legends, and Prime masters, but the voyagers have gone quickly and the leaders are nonexistent, for either line.
And I've only seen a single SS Crowbar too. A lot of the stores around me have surplus Dreadwinds, legends, and Prime masters, but the voyagers have gone quickly and the leaders are nonexistent, for either line.
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Comment by william-james88
May 3, 2018
Dear Lord, someone's unpopular
Also Holy Shit, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular
Also Holy Shit, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular
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Comment by WreckerJack
May 3, 2018
That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)
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And, yeah, Dreadwind wasn't a cartoon character, Will, so it makes sense that he gets left behind.
Comment by Sabrblade
May 3, 2018
By "popular", he means that Jazz and the Dinobots were all bought but not Dreadwind.WreckerJack wrote:That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)
And, yeah, Dreadwind wasn't a cartoon character, Will, so it makes sense that he gets left behind.
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Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer
(not saying you are wrong wj, just again pointing out the disparity between in stock PotP in Canada vs U.S. For me, seeing 4 of anything (other than Prime Masters) is almost unheard of thus far.
Comment by o.supreme
May 4, 2018
william-james88 wrote:Dear Lord, someone's unpopular
Also Holy ****, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular
Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer
(not saying you are wrong wj, just again pointing out the disparity between in stock PotP in Canada vs U.S. For me, seeing 4 of anything (other than Prime Masters) is almost unheard of thus far.
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Yeah, thats wht I mean, he isnt there proving that he must be popular. And assuming some Dreadwinds sols (I know i bought one from that place), then it must mean there were a ton of cases and all those Jazzes sold super well.
And Sabre, this brings about a good point. I always supported the idea that Hasbro made toys primarily for kids and that the older fans were but a subset of the market. If the reason for Dreadwind not selling is because he was not in a 30 year old show, then that means that this show is a determining factor and not just the toys themselves, and yet I am assuming little kids havent watched G1 enough to know who Jazz is. So these toys must be bought mainly by fans. Is that wrong to assume? Or maybe its just because cars are cooler than planes or the MAGA thing made him more collectable (like the time suddenly everybody ws walking into a comic shop because there was a cover of Obama and Spider-man).
Comment by william-james88
May 4, 2018
WreckerJack wrote:That is Dreadwind. I don't see a single Jazz in that pic. (Unless you have yet to post it.)
Yeah, thats wht I mean, he isnt there proving that he must be popular. And assuming some Dreadwinds sols (I know i bought one from that place), then it must mean there were a ton of cases and all those Jazzes sold super well.
And Sabre, this brings about a good point. I always supported the idea that Hasbro made toys primarily for kids and that the older fans were but a subset of the market. If the reason for Dreadwind not selling is because he was not in a 30 year old show, then that means that this show is a determining factor and not just the toys themselves, and yet I am assuming little kids havent watched G1 enough to know who Jazz is. So these toys must be bought mainly by fans. Is that wrong to assume? Or maybe its just because cars are cooler than planes or the MAGA thing made him more collectable (like the time suddenly everybody ws walking into a comic shop because there was a cover of Obama and Spider-man).
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And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.
Comment by TF-fan kev777
May 4, 2018
o.supreme wrote:Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.
And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.
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ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.
Comment by o.supreme
May 4, 2018
TF-fan kev777 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Well I could see that perhaps with the Voyagers. But the Deluxes for SS are boxed while for PotP they are carded, its a pretty big difference. Also the Price Points are different, as is the SKU (even though they are both labeled as Generations). I would hope most retailers would know the difference.
And yet, I went to a Target a few days ago to find them completely out of PotP deluxes, but the pegs for the PotP deluxes were filled with SS deluxes. If they are filling an empty peg, it doesn't even matter if they look similar or not, the general name would be enough to confuse an employee that is not a TF expert like most of us collectors are.
ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.
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Yes, the Studio Series deluxe class figures have plastic peg holders.
Comment by Seibertron
May 4, 2018
o.supreme wrote:ok I'm confused now. Do the Studio Series deluxe Boxes even have plastic peg holders (like TLK packaging?), every Walmart I've been to, they just put the box on a shelf, not hanging them on pegs....I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the packaging since they really don't interest me. If they do that's even worse. Stores are going to be clogged with these things and PotP will get choked out.
Yes, the Studio Series deluxe class figures have plastic peg holders.
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Comment by o.supreme
May 4, 2018
^ Thanks. So...I guess this is a case of which is worse...Putting them on the wrong (PotP) pegs, or not using pegs at all and just placing them on a shelf....
Thanks. So...I guess this is a case of which is worse...Putting them on the wrong (PotP) pegs, or not using pegs at all and just placing them on a shelf....
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After work I checked my local Wal-Mart and TRU: nothing but Wave 1 restock and Studio Series.
Comment by Skritz
May 4, 2018
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:Dear Lord, someone's unpopular
Also Holy ****, this means my TRU stocked that first wave to kingdom come. We always knew the dinobots would sell regardless, but who knew Jazz was that popular
Yeah I kind of had the same experience with Dreadwind. I saw a whole 4 of him at one store one time! (The most I've ever seen). He's definitely a shelf warmer
After work I checked my local Wal-Mart and TRU: nothing but Wave 1 restock and Studio Series.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 4, 2018
Don't forget, Jazz is a movie character, was in WFC/FOC, and was in RiD, so his name has gotten plenty of exposure over the past few years, unlike Dreadwind, with Prime Dreadwing being the closest he's gotten since his Universe toy I believe (or was that Darkwing?)
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Comment by Skritz
May 4, 2018
It's a shame Dreadwind isn't popular because his toy is pretty great in spite of him being a cousin of the CW Aerialbots.
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Comment by WreckerJack
May 4, 2018
They should have included him in a comic or something at the very least.
