List of Upcoming Exclusives Includes SS Leader Grimlock Reissue in Buzzworthy Bumblebee Line

I never, ever saw the SS44 reissue in store. Will I ever see that AoE Grimlock at my TrU? (Not that I need it but still.)

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder who the comic 2-pack will be.

I'll be very happy if it includes a Marvel red headed Ratchet (hopefully not packed with yet another Megatron repaint). I suppose it could be something less exciting like a Tracks and Needlenose set.

I wonder if any of the other ones listed with SG Grimlock are SG figures? Number 3 may be considering how close its number is to Grimlock's, but 1 and 4 may not be. I suppose one could be the SDCC War Dawn set since it would still be a Pulse exclusive.

Emerje

I never bought Grimlock when it first came out, so I'm looking forward to this re-issue. At this point I could take or leave the other Dinobots. I wanted 86 Hound for the longest time, but after re-arranging my shelves and realising that Legacy Bulkhead fits really well among the G1 Autobots, I think I'll just have him as "the green one" and skip Hound. I am interested in finding out what that Amazon exclusive capsule comic 2-pack is, someone on TFW2005 speculated that it could be a re-issue of Runabout and Runamuck, which would be ideal because that's a great mould and Runabout's aftermarket prices are down-right horrifying now.

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder who the comic 2-pack will be.

I'll be very happy if it includes a Marvel red headed Ratchet (hopefully not packed with yet another Megatron repaint). I suppose it could be something less exciting like a Tracks and Needlenose set.

Why those 2?

As for Ratchet and Megatron, I wouldn't mind them in a set if it's ER Megatron with a black helmet and the SS86 Ironhide mold for Ratchet. Those 2 were intertwined throughout the G1 Marvel run, from beginning to end.

I also wouldn't mind an IDW set with Ratchet (same mold) and Drift out of the Siege Springer mold.

But would Hasbro still release voyager 2-packs or will they be sticking to deluxes?

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder who the comic 2-pack will be.

I'll be very happy if it includes a Marvel red headed Ratchet (hopefully not packed with yet another Megatron repaint). I suppose it could be something less exciting like a Tracks and Needlenose set.

Why those 2?

Those two were brothers in IDW1.

For what reason? O wait...


Transformers G1 1985 Tracks (Reissue) Gallery

Transformers G1 1988 Needlenose Gallery

There's some resemblance in the knight helmet...

Sweet, I can finally finish the Dreads once Hatchet is released. Hopefully it looks a little better than those leaked renders from a few months ago.

Might pick up Hound, too, but I'd have to see him before I make a decision.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Really hope that Grimlock is a sign that the rest of the Dinobots are finally coming!

I'm not holding my breath. It's been what, 2 years now, and we still don't have the G1 SS Dinobots finished? I doubt anything new from AoE or TLK gets released in leader class until 2025 at the earliest.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think some fans who want the Bayverse dinos out actually blame the SS86 versions for the delay.

I do. And considering the original SS86 (which included Grimlock and Slug in 2021) was meant to be WFC Part III instead of the beasts, I think that holds some water.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think some fans who want the Bayverse dinos out actually blame the SS86 versions for the delay.

I do. And considering the original SS86 (which included Grimlock and Slug in 2021) was meant to be WFC Part III instead of the beasts, I think that holds some water.

Understandably so, as they take Leader class slots away from the Bayverse versions. But on the other hand, we haven't even seen early design sketches, much less prototypes or finished products of the AoE Dinobots besides Grimlock. So I'm not sure if this was a hasty decision by Hasbro or if they had planned to put the G1 versions there all along.

I get that some Kingdom figures got pushed into SS, creating SS86, but the Dinobots were never even in the Netflix series.

Neither were any figures in Kingdom outside the beasts, Galvatron, arcee, and the Ark. Rodimus didn't show up at all, the only commander not to. And arcee was in the whole series and Galvatron was introduced in Earthrise, so the show wasn't a good indicator for them.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think some fans who want the Bayverse dinos out actually blame the SS86 versions for the delay.

I do. And considering the original SS86 (which included Grimlock and Slug in 2021) was meant to be WFC Part III instead of the beasts, I think that holds some water.

Understandably so, as they take Leader class slots away from the Bayverse versions. But on the other hand, we haven't even seen early design sketches, much less prototypes or finished products of the AoE Dinobots besides Grimlock. So I'm not sure if this was a hasty decision by Hasbro or if they had planned to put the G1 versions there all along.

I get that some Kingdom figures got pushed into SS, creating SS86, but the Dinobots were never even in the Netflix series.

Neither were any figures in Kingdom outside the beasts, Galvatron, arcee, and the Ark. Rodimus didn't show up at all, the only commander not to. And arcee was in the whole series and Galvatron was introduced in Earthrise, so the show wasn't a good indicator for them.

I actually think SS86 was created in part for a way to do G1 leader class Dinobots. If you look at the history of SS versus the main generations line (prime wars, WFC or Legacy) the number 1 biggest difference I see is repaint potential for voyagers and leaders. SS was re-using less than 50% of the leaders and voyagers molds up to the point where SS86 began. The generations line however was re-using almost 100% of the leader and voyager molds in some fashion. The G1 dinobots really only have G2 or SG as an alternate us of the molds, and at $55 a pop a complete set of G2 or SG dinobots would be a pretty big risk, so they went into the SS line which was set up more for single use leader molds.

Just a theory I've had since SS86 first appeared.

This is basically my view even if it's a little reductive. They decided at some point that they were going to do all of the G1 Dinobots in leader class, they knew what was a multi-year effort, and they needed a home for it. It makes less sense to do that across WfC and Legacy or even within Legacy, than to have a dedicated more-or-less evergreen product line. Does it "steal" slots from Bayverse? Perhaps, but the choice to do five leader figures in a relatively short period is arguably as much responsible as the specific branding for the releases.

I've said it before when the Kingdom/SS86 debate first happened, and I think it's doubly true for lines like Buzzworthy: we as a fandom put too much stock into marketing decisions, especially when we don't have the insider knowledge to know how much marketing influences product design versus the other way around.