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Transformers: The Last Knight No. 1 in New Openings, but Drops at Global Box Office

Posted by Va'al Jul 2, 2017 at 8:08pm CDT 15,730 views
A new week, a new update on the international faring of Transformers: The Last Knight, with still a couple of markets to release the movie (notably Japan, Spain, Brazil, Mexico). China is still holding the highest grossing box office import, but the numbers have dropped - significantly, as has happened in most other markets - from the opening weekend and week.

The unfortunate trend is found pretty much everywhere else that the movie has shown, despite number 1 positions for France, Belgium, and India where it just opened. Full numbers and projections can be found below, and over at Deadline, plus a couple of analyses found on Forbes show how we're looking more at a global $600M income for Paramount's fifth instalment, including a comparison with Age of Extinction during the same span.

Falling 66% from its international launch last weekend, Paramount’s 5th movie in the bots franchise grossed $68M this session. That’s in 44 markets with three new openings. The offshore cume is now $327.8M. France ($5M/815 dates), India ($3.5M/1,129 dates) and Belgium ($719K/156 dates) were all new No. 1s.

In holds, China leads at $29.5M from 7,000 locations this weekend. That lifts the total there to $193.5M after 10 days. The film dropped 76% in the Middle Kingdom (it had already seen a bigger than expected Saturday to Sunday drop last session and has suffered poor word of mouth). It will not reach the hoped for heights of its predecessor, Age Of Extinction, which set a new record there in 2014. That film played into the (unofficial) July blackout and became the biggest import ever (at the time) after 12 days of release. It’s not clear if the temporary moratorium on outside pics is being fully enforced by the PROC this year. Currently Despicable Me 3 is the last Hollywood film slated for a while.

Elsewhere, the best hold was in Germany which added $3.6M for a local cume of $9.7M. In Korea, Bumblebee got stung by local pic Anarchist From Colony to land at No. 2 for the sophomore session with $3M/$17.6M cume (2nd best overseas market). Russia added $2.1M for $13.1M to date and the UK toyed with another $2.1M for a $10.2M cume.

In South East Asia, Malaysia leads with $7.2M to date. Taiwan is at $5.8M. There are still major markets to release including Brazil and Mexico in two weeks and Japan and Spain in early August.


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Comment by Deadput Jul 2, 2017
I like these movies I really do and always will even TLK but Paramount brought this to themselves since they and that hack Lorenzo's effortless attitude has made the film series and presumably the brand as a whole suffered.

Also I thought the writing team they brought in was supposed to be so that this exact situation didn't happen?

I enjoyed most of what was on screen like I always do but just like the others besides maybe the 2007 film TLK could of been so much more if the Bee movie fails too it's over and no reboot is going to save it no matter how much nostalgia they shove in I mean heck the original 1986 film didn't do amazing in theaters either.

Paramount is in a corner since Transformers is their last reliable cash maker after their countless recent flops and so is Hasbro since this, the extremely poor handling of Prime and Rid, the recent decline of interest in the IDW comics partially due to IDW's poor business decisions, once Titans Return and the Bee movie which is likely going to be the last live action film there isn't going to be anything for me here in this brand which sucks since Transformers is my last big hobby.

Sorry for the long post and maybe rant but I had to vent since this situation is depressing me especially since I just saw the film a couple more times in the theater and the awe effect is lost.
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Comment by griftimus prime Jul 2, 2017
this is a really bad time for paramount.
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Comment by Graviton Jul 2, 2017
When TLK is done in theaters can someone please make some sort of visual depiction, such as a bar graph, to compare all 5 movies profits?
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Comment by Deadput Jul 2, 2017
griftimus prime wrote:this is a really bad time for paramount.

And to be a Transformers fan if this keeps up since if it gets worse enough that's going to be the end of our franchise and even if another Transforming robots brand comes around it's not going to be Transformers.

Paramount might have made good films in the past but that's the past and if Paramount has had flop after flop in a row I think there's a reason for it now Paramount has to think and put hard work into getting out of the hole they dug and get them out of their vegetative state.

Even if they do a reboot which is going to be tricky they can't super rely on nostalgia to bring in the crowd since most people from G1's time are in their 40's and there's only so much time before they lose interest in the brand which just leaves the younger crowd and since movies as an interest is dwindling due to the expense of theater and young people like myself being more interested in Youtube/Netflix same with toys with things like video games becoming bigger and bigger as the years go by.
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Comment by Graviton Jul 2, 2017
Deadput wrote:if this keeps up since if it gets worse enough that's going to be the end of our franchise


I doubt it will be that bad if the movies fail, this brand has run almost continuously for the past 32 years showing how versatile it really is.
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Comment by JazZeke Jul 2, 2017
Deadput wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:this is a really bad time for paramount.

And to be a Transformers fan if this keeps up since if it gets worse enough that's going to be the end of our franchise and even if another Transforming robots brand comes around it's not going to be Transformers.

Kid, this franchise existed long before the movies, and it will exist in some form or another long after the movies. The toys themselves are the driving force and as long as they turn a profit, they'll stick around.
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Comment by Kurona Jul 2, 2017
The single point in time Transformers ever had a drop in sales was the very late 80s and early 90s -- and even then they still had toys from the shelves. And after that it was able to sell as a premier boys toy for 10 years straight with no movies. If the Live-action movies end, I have faith the brand won't sink with it for a good while.
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Comment by Deadput Jul 2, 2017
Graviton wrote:I doubt it will be that bad if the movies fail, this brand has run almost continuously for the past 32 years showing how versatile it really is.


Yeah Transformers has done great and has "cheated" death before but every franchise is going to end at some point because nothing lasts forever and I honestly doubt that Transformers at the very least Hasbro/Takara's Transformers are going to outlive me unless I die early on in my life (19 right now soon to be 20) Transforming robots themselves will last for a long time it's just not guaranteed to be Transformers forever.

Unless we get another Beast Wars or another 2007 movie to bring more life to our franchise the brand is going to die in the slow dwindling way like GI-Joe for example.


Transformers survive because they "transform" the brand so that there is always something new to prevent fatigue.
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Comment by Deadput Jul 2, 2017
JazZeke wrote:Kid, this franchise existed long before the movies, and it will exist in some form or another long after the movies. The toys themselves are the driving force and as long as they turn a profit, they'll stick around.

There will always be a form of Transforming robot but it's not always going to be Transformers just like how there will always be toys but thier not going to be the same a few hundred years from now.

It won't because that's not how life works and even if it did were not always going to hold interest in the brand because we will have to grow up at some point and move on with more pressing matters.

Like eventually Transformers is going to move on from Optimus Prime and Megatron and all of the other cast and there are going to be new characters and concepts.
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Comment by Kurona Jul 2, 2017
Everything ends at some point, but there's a lot of franchises that have managed to put up a bloody good fight -- how do we know Transformers won't last as long as say, Sherlock has? Or Shakespeare?
... feels wrong comparing Transformers to those two with the context of the live-action movies, but the point stands. It could very easily last a damn long time before dying and then inevitably getting resurrected by 2140's 2110s nostalgia kick :lol:
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Comment by Deadput Jul 2, 2017
Kurona wrote:Everything ends at some point, but there's a lot of franchises that have managed to put up a bloody good fight -- how do we know Transformers won't last as long as say, Sherlock has? Or Shakespeare?
... feels wrong comparing Transformers to those two with the context of the live-action movies, but the point stands. It could very easily last a damn long time before dying and then inevitably getting resurrected by 2140's 2110s nostalgia kick :lol:


It will last yes I'm not saying or doubting that Transformers will end in the next few years but something is going to have to change whether for good or bad.

I'm thinking of Doctor Who that show has lived for a long time but it does do things to stay fresh like the whole regenerating Doctor thing that guy has going on.
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Comment by dragons Jul 2, 2017
Some Obie's are not doing good as others do like them to be despicable me 3 is number one Wonder Woman is number three cars is number five spot
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Comment by Hellscream9999 Jul 2, 2017
I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...
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Comment by SlyTF1 Jul 2, 2017
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...


I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.

At least now I know I'm not a fan of anything. I won't blindly defend these movies just because I like them. I've shunned and condemned entire goddamn properties I once loved and adored, all because they put out something I didn't like. Marvel, Star Wars, and most recently the Mass Effect games are among those properties. I'm just hoping Transformers doesn't join the ranks.
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Comment by Sabrblade Jul 2, 2017
SlyTF1 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...


I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.

At least now I know I'm not a fan of anything. I won't blindly defend these movies just because I like them. I've shunned and condemned entire goddamn properties I once loved and adored, all because they put out something I didn't like. Marvel, Star Wars, and most recently the Mass Effect games are among those properties. I'm just hoping Transformers doesn't join the ranks.
It's... okay to like something that isn't good. That's what "guilty pleasures" are.
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Comment by Hellscream9999 Jul 2, 2017
SlyTF1 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...


I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.

I think that's the part that stings the most, that this writer's room was touted for so long to be a turning point for the storytelling aspect and writing, but all they did was force random things they read about (headmasters, duocons, quintessa, time travel, the true nature of earth...) and cram them into this movie without doing anything beyond that to make it any good
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Comment by SlyTF1 Jul 2, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...


I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.

At least now I know I'm not a fan of anything. I won't blindly defend these movies just because I like them. I've shunned and condemned entire goddamn properties I once loved and adored, all because they put out something I didn't like. Marvel, Star Wars, and most recently the Mass Effect games are among those properties. I'm just hoping Transformers doesn't join the ranks.
It's... okay to like something that isn't good. That's what "guilty pleasures" are.


Nope. I look at everything from an objective point of view. If I say something is "the greatest thing of all time," it has to live up to those standards, otherwise, it ceases to be the greatest. And I only associate myself with the best.
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Comment by Sabrblade Jul 2, 2017
SlyTF1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...


I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.

At least now I know I'm not a fan of anything. I won't blindly defend these movies just because I like them. I've shunned and condemned entire goddamn properties I once loved and adored, all because they put out something I didn't like. Marvel, Star Wars, and most recently the Mass Effect games are among those properties. I'm just hoping Transformers doesn't join the ranks.
It's... okay to like something that isn't good. That's what "guilty pleasures" are.


Nope. I look at everything from an objective point of view. If I say something is "the greatest thing of all time," it has to live up to those standards, otherwise, it ceases to be the greatest. And I only associate myself with the best.
But the very notion of "the greatest thing of all time" is objectively a subjective concept in and of itself.
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Comment by SlyTF1 Jul 2, 2017
Hellscream9999 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...


I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.

I think that's the part that stings the most, that this writer's room was touted for so long to be a turning point for the storytelling aspect and writing, but all they did was force random things they read about (headmasters, duocons, quintessa, time travel, the true nature of earth...) and cram them into this movie without doing anything beyond that to make it any good


Yeah, they hyped up this whole writers room, like it was going to be the savior of the franchise. But then it turned out that the writing was the absolute worst thing about the movie. I'm convinced all the writers room did was write all the lore. I truly don't believe they even tried to write a cohesive, impactful story. And the bad part is that it has all the elements for a great story, but it was completely squandered by the execution.

It's funny, because I always wondered why everyone gave a shit about the story in movies. I guess now I know why.
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Comment by william-james88 Jul 2, 2017
SlyTF1 wrote: And I only associate myself with the best.

So what's it like being friends with the pope?
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