My Pick for the Best Toy to give a Younger Transformers Fan this Christmas

william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.

These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.

That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.

Agreed!

I have one
and it is fun, simple and accurate to a very high standard.

I have given 2 already
and have recommended it to several friends and to just ordinary people shopping.

Cool.

SGMLordMirage wrote:Definitely concur with this as an idea to give to a young transformer fan or like it was mentioned, if someone likes Dinosaurs.
The minute I saw Grimlock in the store, I was impressed and love him. Unfortunately, while I do not collect this line, this one definitely makes it temping has I continue to see him on the shelves in stores.

You could do like what I did and just purchase him without needing to purchase others in the line. And he's G1 enough that he can fit in other collections or just look good on a shelf. And since he's plenty enough on the shelves and online, he's easier to get at a sale price (like 20% off at target). That makes it really good value for less than $25. he feels like a kid's toy but a good kid's toy, like the Cybertron toys of yore (I really miss that line).

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:"Holiday buyiers guide"

I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?

Anyway, cool concept! I like it

That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).

About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.

william-james88 wrote:

carytheone wrote:

william-james88 wrote:"Holiday buyiers guide"

I really like the idea of a holiday buying guide and wouldn't mind seeing it expanded with more recommendations and/or other age groups. That could be a cool article/thread with Seibertron staff recommendations. Maybe pair it with the year in review article?

Anyway, cool concept! I like it

That's very kind of you Cary, I don't know if parents read this site much but in the off chance they do I wanted to help. I also want them to avoid buying other kid friendly TF toys that I know are not as good as this one. I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).

About your idea of the concept, I could expand on it next year. Like pick for toy of the year from staff for age groups. I hate the alternative you get in the lobbied Toy of the Year lists at toysrus or Walmart where its basically just what is the big toy to spend most of your money on this year.

I think a lot of the people here are parents Realistically I don't know how the site's google analytics work or how effective it is at getting non TF fans to visit. But I will say as a fairly informed TF fan that doesn't have kids (but has a nephew), it is a good source of info to get a quick recommendation for the younger audience. I'd have no idea what to recommend to a parent.

I enjoy reading the holiday buyers guides a lot of the video game sites put out. Sometimes you'll find a hidden gem you didn't even know existed.

william-james88 wrote:I can totally see this as a a kid,s cherished toy that could get him into more complex transformers when he gets older (as another nice big transforming T-rex toy did for little William).

This is why I love Transformers. The toys themselves encourage problem solving. Even if your method of solving the problem is finding a video on Youtube and follow along. As a computer guy, a lot of my job is find stuff on google and repeating lol.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.

These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.

That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.

Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.

Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!

Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.

SiegeFan wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Maybe we werent clear but these are not not just a little smaller than Ultra Class, they are A LOT smaller.

These new deluxes are the same size as the windblade in this image below, which is standing next to Ultra Class Grimlock.

That Grimlock is the Ultimate Class, not the Ultra Class. Cyberverse Ultra Class toys are the roughly Voyager-sized ones like Alpha Trion.

Ah dammit, sorry siegedude! Well i can still salvage this. Ultra class would be as big as jetfire in the pic above and these new deluxes would be as big as windblade.

Absolutely confirms it for me, thank you!

Unfortunately it means they're insanely priced here in the UK at least.

Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?

william-james88 wrote:Isnt it the same price as Siege deluxes and studio series deluxes?

IME...

Cyberverse Ultra Class = £20 RRP short of a sale

Siege Deluxes = £17 or thereabouts both online and in Smyths and the like

The Amazon £21 price isn't far from £23/24 Siege Voyagers, unfortunately. And that's only with the recent price increases across the whole IP. That's crazy for something that small, IMO.

And even Earthrise Voyagers have stayed around £22-24 pre-orders online and in stores.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think you need to look at them more then just the size. Remember deluxe has a meaning beyond size. I think they're priced right. In a funny sense this is similar to the argument over Siege Astrotrain being voyager sized but sold at leader Class price point.

It's the whole shebang in my terms. Size and/or price together I'm not really fussed about, like I'll happily buy ER Cliffy, for instance.

But when I'm buying an entire line in all likelihood at £21 each and they're not as good as a more detailed (in every way) £17 Siege figure... It's incredibly tough to justify.

In this instance it comes down to sheer value and I just don't think these have it. At least the insane £20 for Ultra class figs gave you shelf presence even if construction was dire.