New Clip - Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars: Megatron vs Constructicons
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Comment by primalxconvoy
Aug 1, 2016
Video link doesn't work. Just a small icon of some blue cube?
YouTube link, please!
YouTube link, please!
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Comment by Randomhero
Aug 1, 2016
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Brilliant! Cheers!
Although the uploader wrote "combaticons" instead of "constructicons" by mistake.
Comment by primalxconvoy
Aug 1, 2016
Brilliant! Cheers!
Although the uploader wrote "combaticons" instead of "constructicons" by mistake.
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That's a actually a thing for some reason. A lot of stuff is promoting them as combaticons for some reason
Comment by Randomhero
Aug 1, 2016
primalxconvoy wrote:
Brilliant! Cheers!
Although the uploader wrote "combaticons" instead of "constructicons" by mistake.
That's a actually a thing for some reason. A lot of stuff is promoting them as combaticons for some reason
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Comment by Va'al
Aug 1, 2016
Maybe - and I'm just letting the speculengine loose here - they're combaticons in the sense that they're part of that combat arena looking thing? 
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Comment by Sabrblade
Aug 1, 2016
Man, that is some choppy movement on the bots (despite all the background and camera movement looking just fine).
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Yeah, I am not a fan. I really dont like that style of action where you dont see the origin of the blows and instead just see the bot flying off after being hit.
Comment by william-james88
Aug 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Man, that is some choppy movement on the bots (despite all the background and camera movement looking just fine).
Yeah, I am not a fan. I really dont like that style of action where you dont see the origin of the blows and instead just see the bot flying off after being hit.
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Comment by Hero Alpha
Aug 1, 2016
Looks pretty good, I admit its not as fluid as I would hope, but still good. Can't wait to watch these. What I wish Hasbro would do, would be a show that is set during the 20 yrs between G1 Sunbow season 2 and the movie. Same style animation, just updated similar to Devastation. So much to cover there like Kup, Hot Rod and the bunch reuniting with the Ark gang, Metroplex/Autobot city, Decepticons taking Cybertron and Unicron build up. But maybe thats just me.
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I wouldn't mind this either. I'd be mostly and completely alright and on board with this idea. I doubt it will happen though unfortunately, but you never know.
Comment by Tyrannacon
Aug 1, 2016
Moonshot wrote:Looks pretty good, I admit its not as fluid as I would hope, but still good. Can't wait to watch these. What I wish Hasbro would do, would be a show that is set during the 20 yrs between G1 Sunbow season 2 and the movie. Same style animation, just updated similar to Devastation. So much to cover there like Kup, Hot Rod and the bunch reuniting with the Ark gang, Metroplex/Autobot city, Decepticons taking Cybertron and Unicron build up. But maybe thats just me.
I wouldn't mind this either. I'd be mostly and completely alright and on board with this idea. I doubt it will happen though unfortunately, but you never know.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Aug 1, 2016
If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
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Yes, it had it's time in the sun, and then it bowed down
Comment by william-james88
Aug 1, 2016
ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
Yes, it had it's time in the sun, and then it bowed down
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Comment by Sabrblade
Aug 1, 2016
Not to mention that every time Hasbro kept getting asked at each BotCon about either a continuation, a season 2.5, or a remake of the G1 cartoon, they always sounded less than ethusiastic about the idea, and accompanied their responses with the usual "We prefer to move forward with the brand and look to the past for mere inspiration and influence for new ideas, rather than stay stuck in the past" shtick.ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
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Comment by o.supreme
Aug 1, 2016
I think it just goes to show how fickle (or diverse) the fanbase is, or how confusing Hasbro seems to be. See for me, really I haven't been collecting toys for about a decade (with few exceptions). I am mostly in it for the animated series and comics, which is a constant source of frustration.
I would love to see a truly, honest to goodness continuation of the original animated series. Either taking pace in the time period between season 2 and the movie, or something Post-Rebirth. Hasbro keeps saying "no" because basically there is no money (or far less money) to be made in animated series and comics. Toys is where they make their money (well and now the movie franchise but...)
So they sought to appeal to fans, and in a way it succeeded. Between Combiner Wars and Titans Return, a fan can *almost* relive the experience of getting the entire 86 & 87 toy line, plus a good amount of new stuff. but again those are just TOYS. I want to see a absolutely true continuation of the original animated series, but I know its never going to happen.
I would love to see a truly, honest to goodness continuation of the original animated series. Either taking pace in the time period between season 2 and the movie, or something Post-Rebirth. Hasbro keeps saying "no" because basically there is no money (or far less money) to be made in animated series and comics. Toys is where they make their money (well and now the movie franchise but...)
So they sought to appeal to fans, and in a way it succeeded. Between Combiner Wars and Titans Return, a fan can *almost* relive the experience of getting the entire 86 & 87 toy line, plus a good amount of new stuff. but again those are just TOYS. I want to see a absolutely true continuation of the original animated series, but I know its never going to happen.
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Comment by Kurona
Aug 1, 2016
Plus, honestly... a continuation of the original G1 series wouldn't work because it didn't really have a particular story behind it. It was just fun, silly situation-of-the-week episodes that had no real connection, was pretty mindless, and never went anywhere. Which is fun, but there's not really any story to continue there.
Now if you're talking about something like Marvel G1, Beast Wars, Animated etc. who do have stories and characters that went places and it would be great to see a continuation of - especially given the latter's cancellation - then that makes sense. But beyond the pure basic thinking birthed from nostalgia of "OMG MY CHILDHOOD SHOW'S BACK", what could you really do with the G1 cartoon?
It's why I was initially scared at the rumours of Combiner Wars being a G1 continuation because it's (trying to be) a serious story which doesn't really fit in at all with G1.
Now if you're talking about something like Marvel G1, Beast Wars, Animated etc. who do have stories and characters that went places and it would be great to see a continuation of - especially given the latter's cancellation - then that makes sense. But beyond the pure basic thinking birthed from nostalgia of "OMG MY CHILDHOOD SHOW'S BACK", what could you really do with the G1 cartoon?
It's why I was initially scared at the rumours of Combiner Wars being a G1 continuation because it's (trying to be) a serious story which doesn't really fit in at all with G1.
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Ah. Hah. See what you did there. Clever!
I recall this as well from reading it somewhere actually. It was either on a news group's archive I went through, TFWiki, or BWTF that lead to it. Can't really remember exactly.
Comment by Tyrannacon
Aug 1, 2016
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
Yes, it had it's time in the sun, and then it bowed down
Ah. Hah. See what you did there. Clever!
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that every time Hasbro kept getting asked at each BotCon about either a continuation, a season 2.5, or a remake of the G1 cartoon, they always sounded less than ethusiastic about the idea, and accompanied their responses with the usual "We prefer to move forward with the brand and look to the past for mere inspiration and influence for new ideas, rather than stay stuck in the past" shtick.ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
I recall this as well from reading it somewhere actually. It was either on a news group's archive I went through, TFWiki, or BWTF that lead to it. Can't really remember exactly.
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You've captured perfectly my other thoughts about this, the tone of G1, and you would have to get dark and let the bad guys win in order to properly bridge the gap between s2 and the movie and that for me would pretty jarring. You could argue that the beginning of the movie was dark but that was just the after effect of a pure business decision, aka the law of unintended consequences.
Comment by ZeroWolf
Aug 1, 2016
Kurona wrote:Plus, honestly... a continuation of the original G1 series wouldn't work because it didn't really have a particular story behind it. It was just fun, silly situation-of-the-week episodes that had no real connection, was pretty mindless, and never went anywhere. Which is fun, but there's not really any story to continue there.
Now if you're talking about something like Marvel G1, Beast Wars, Animated etc. who do have stories and characters that went places and it would be great to see a continuation of - especially given the latter's cancellation - then that makes sense. But beyond the pure basic thinking birthed from nostalgia of "OMG MY CHILDHOOD SHOW'S BACK", what could you really do with the G1 cartoon?
It's why I was initially scared at the rumours of Combiner Wars being a G1 continuation because it's (trying to be) a serious story which doesn't really fit in at all with G1.
You've captured perfectly my other thoughts about this, the tone of G1, and you would have to get dark and let the bad guys win in order to properly bridge the gap between s2 and the movie and that for me would pretty jarring. You could argue that the beginning of the movie was dark but that was just the after effect of a pure business decision, aka the law of unintended consequences.
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Although Sunbow season 2.5 would be sweet. I have to agree that my preference would be an IDW set show. MtMtE would fit perfect for a 30min show.
Comment by Hero Alpha
Aug 1, 2016
ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
Although Sunbow season 2.5 would be sweet. I have to agree that my preference would be an IDW set show. MtMtE would fit perfect for a 30min show.
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I would be all for a MTMTE show. However, I think Hasbro would be warmer to a John Barber Transformers show than a show like the MTMTE comic.
Comment by william-james88
Aug 1, 2016
Moonshot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:If I'm honest, I'm very meh on the idea and I would like to see them continue to tell new stories that aren't constricted by G1. Give me an animated series set in the idw time line or a new time line altogether. The original G1 had its time in the sun, let it enjoy retirement.
Although Sunbow season 2.5 would be sweet. I have to agree that my preference would be an IDW set show. MtMtE would fit perfect for a 30min show.
I would be all for a MTMTE show. However, I think Hasbro would be warmer to a John Barber Transformers show than a show like the MTMTE comic.
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With all due respect, I do not agree with your assessment. Was the original series silly at times? Sure, but so was the Marvel Comic. Also there was a very solid overall story especially in season 3 despite the limitations of the animation. I have had literally hundreds of ideas for episodes that could take place in the original series. saying its pointless is just nonsensical to me. Now I'm not saying that the majority of fans would agree that a continuation of the original animated series would be a good thing, but since its never been done before, how would we know? But I'm pretty sure we will never know because Hasbro is just too cheap to try it.
All I know is this...There are many fan made short films on sites like YouTube using all forms (cosplay, toys, animation etc..) based on the original series. I have not seen one for BW that uses anything original other than reused clips from the series itself, and basically nothing from any other TF continuity.
Comment by o.supreme
Aug 1, 2016
Kurona wrote:Plus, honestly... a continuation of the original G1 series wouldn't work because it didn't really have a particular story behind it. It was just fun, silly situation-of-the-week episodes that had no real connection, was pretty mindless, and never went anywhere.
With all due respect, I do not agree with your assessment. Was the original series silly at times? Sure, but so was the Marvel Comic. Also there was a very solid overall story especially in season 3 despite the limitations of the animation. I have had literally hundreds of ideas for episodes that could take place in the original series. saying its pointless is just nonsensical to me. Now I'm not saying that the majority of fans would agree that a continuation of the original animated series would be a good thing, but since its never been done before, how would we know? But I'm pretty sure we will never know because Hasbro is just too cheap to try it.
All I know is this...There are many fan made short films on sites like YouTube using all forms (cosplay, toys, animation etc..) based on the original series. I have not seen one for BW that uses anything original other than reused clips from the series itself, and basically nothing from any other TF continuity.
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Alright, what was the story? What progress was made? What arcs happened, what character development happened, did anything actually happen of any substance other than situation-of-the-week episodes, the Movie changing the setting and episodes that introduced new toys notwithstanding?
Comment by Kurona
Aug 1, 2016
o.supreme wrote:Kurona wrote:Plus, honestly... a continuation of the original G1 series wouldn't work because it didn't really have a particular story behind it. It was just fun, silly situation-of-the-week episodes that had no real connection, was pretty mindless, and never went anywhere.
With all due respect, I do not agree with your assessment. Was the original series silly at times? Sure, but so was the Marvel Comic. Also there was a very solid overall story especially in season 3 despite the limitations of the animation. I have had literally hundreds of ideas for episodes that could take place in the original series. saying its pointless is just nonsensical to me. Now I'm not saying that the majority of fans would agree that a continuation of the original animated series would be a good thing, but since its never been done before, how would we know? But I'm pretty sure we will never know because Hasbro is just too cheap to try it.
All I know is this...There are many fan made short films on sites like YouTube using all forms (cosplay, toys, animation etc..) based on the original series. I have not seen one for BW that uses anything original other than reused clips from the series itself, and basically nothing from any other TF continuity.
Alright, what was the story? What progress was made? What arcs happened, what character development happened, did anything actually happen of any substance other than situation-of-the-week episodes, the Movie changing the setting and episodes that introduced new toys notwithstanding?
