New Images of MP-39 Masterpiece Sunstreaker
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Comment by Bumblebee21
Jun 22, 2017
360 view really showcases how bad the backpack is from all sides
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Comment by Ravage XK
Jun 22, 2017
Backpack isn't so bad when you consider what a backpack is.
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Or compared to other recent figures. I think 'streakers is very well done.
Comment by Ironhidensh
Jun 22, 2017
Ravage XK wrote:Backpack isn't so bad when you consider what a backpack is.
Or compared to other recent figures. I think 'streakers is very well done.
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Comment by Kurona
Jun 22, 2017
The backpack is a bit... I believe the word is 'yikes'. But aside from that and some colour choices and the fact I personally don't like the head he looks great!
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Comment by galvatron00
Jun 22, 2017
Hot dang he looks awesome. Backpack = win. I prefer it to Hot Rodimus' just because the intakes are forward from the back of the backpack compared to Hot Rodimus' wing being on the back of the backpack. If you get what I'm saying.
REGARDLESS! Bought. Glad I played the long game. Maybe that's what I'll do from now on.
REGARDLESS! Bought. Glad I played the long game. Maybe that's what I'll do from now on.
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Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Jun 22, 2017
Backpack looks alright. Sunstreaker in general is a pretty ugly character despite what he thinks of himself. Never liked his head design either. One of the worst of all the Autobot cars.
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That's just straight up crazy talk man......
Comment by MGrotusque
Jun 22, 2017
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Backpack looks alright. Sunstreaker in general is a pretty ugly character despite what he thinks of himself. Never liked his head design either. One of the worst of all the Autobot cars.
That's just straight up crazy talk man......
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Comment by Cobotron
Jun 22, 2017
Would someone please explain to me where the "I hate back packs" way of thinking originated. Is it derivative of the Bayverse? Or the G1 cartoon?
I just don't get it. 98.6% of every Transformers toy I have handled/owned over the last 32 years has a pack pack of some kind. To me it just comes with the territory. I mean I guess I could think of a few that are over the top or cumbersome, but what exactly do those who dislike back packs expect?
I'm not trying to be an asshat. It's a criticism that never crossed my mind until I entered the fandom and heard it from others.
I just don't get it. 98.6% of every Transformers toy I have handled/owned over the last 32 years has a pack pack of some kind. To me it just comes with the territory. I mean I guess I could think of a few that are over the top or cumbersome, but what exactly do those who dislike back packs expect?
I'm not trying to be an asshat. It's a criticism that never crossed my mind until I entered the fandom and heard it from others.
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Comment by Bumblebee21
Jun 22, 2017
Sunsurge has a backpack but nowhere as big as that one
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Does the general disdain for back packs come from the idealistic pursuit of screen accuracy?
Comment by Cobotron
Jun 22, 2017
Doesn't really answer my question Bee. So you dislike this back pack because it's too big?Bumblebee21 wrote:Sunsurge has a backpack but nowhere as big as that one
Does the general disdain for back packs come from the idealistic pursuit of screen accuracy?
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Comment by Cyberpath
Jun 22, 2017
He did have a bit of a "backpack" in the cartoon, anyway.
Sometimes it was drawn compact something less.
Nothing severe as this guy...
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Sometimes it was drawn compact something less.
Nothing severe as this guy...
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Comment by Cobotron
Jun 22, 2017
OK. Even Jazz and Sideswipe have their wind shilds on their pack in those drawings. which I consider to be a back pack.
And that reminds me Cyber P. Suntreaker's pack is really kind of one of those iconic details for the character. Like the Seekers shoulder vents, or the Datsons' door wings.
So then I ask again, where does the criticism of back packs come from? Just trying to wrap my mind around it.
And not to beat the poor dead horse, but by golly I love the over all silhouette of Sunstreaker, but the head just kills it for me. PLEASE Takara, do some Diaclone homage with a toy accurate head and will buy it with out hesitation.
And that reminds me Cyber P. Suntreaker's pack is really kind of one of those iconic details for the character. Like the Seekers shoulder vents, or the Datsons' door wings.
So then I ask again, where does the criticism of back packs come from? Just trying to wrap my mind around it.
And not to beat the poor dead horse, but by golly I love the over all silhouette of Sunstreaker, but the head just kills it for me. PLEASE Takara, do some Diaclone homage with a toy accurate head and will buy it with out hesitation.
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Comment by Bumblebee21
Jun 22, 2017
Look at most of the deluxe bees.that's a backpack.
This just does look clean to me.
Where do the hate over buttflaps come from
This just does look clean to me.
Where do the hate over buttflaps come from
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That was going to be my next question!
Comment by Cobotron
Jun 22, 2017
No. I think that is a fair criticism. But it seems like the existence of a back pack at all, seems to put off a lot of folks.Bumblebee21 wrote:Look at most of the deluxe bees.that's a backpack.
This just does look clean to me.
Bumblebee21 wrote:Where do the hate over buttflaps come from
That was going to be my next question!
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Depends on how messy it is as well.
This one has an Autobot symbol for a butt flap.
I think it started with mp-22
Comment by Bumblebee21
Jun 22, 2017
Cobotron wrote:No. I think that is a fair criticism. But it seems like the existence of a back pack at all, seems to put off a lot of folks.Bumblebee21 wrote:Look at most of the deluxe bees.that's a backpack.
This just doesn't look clean to me.Bumblebee21 wrote:Where do the hate over buttflaps come from
Depends on how messy it is as well.
This one has an Autobot symbol for a butt flap.
I think it started with mp-22
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Comment by Kurona
Jun 22, 2017
It's like kibble (and arguably it IS kibble, but let's not split hairs for now). It's fine and arguably necessary in moderation, but it's when it goes into excess that it becomes a problem. Most of us like Prowl having door wings or Starscream proudly displaying his wings in Robot mode, right? Helps to make them good designs. But I doubt we'd like them that much if all the vehicle mode parts integrated into them were hanging off them; like how a lot of the lazier Beast Wars figures (especially in Neo) are just generic robots with animal parts hanging off them rather than actually using animal parts as part of their body.
Likewise, a backpack helps round out the body shape and can become a good part of a character's profile; but if it's very large and it stuffs so many vehicle parts in there rather than those vehicle parts being integrated into the body or otherwise contributing to the robot mode in a positive way... it becomes a negative. It's all about moderation
Likewise, a backpack helps round out the body shape and can become a good part of a character's profile; but if it's very large and it stuffs so many vehicle parts in there rather than those vehicle parts being integrated into the body or otherwise contributing to the robot mode in a positive way... it becomes a negative. It's all about moderation
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Comment by Cobotron
Jun 22, 2017
OK, good answer K. Thanks.
I guess for me packs have never been an issue. I just see them as something that makes the function of transforming possible for the toys. But things like back packs, butt flaps, and even kibble have never bothered me. (how dare you slander BW Neo!
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But I agree on the moderation. there are plenty of packs that are excessive. Like a lot of movie toys that are trying to achieve screen accuracy, and just can't physically, in real time and space do so with out cheating.
The worst is when a back pack throws of a toys center of gravity and they can't even stand. Enter heel spurs!
I guess for me packs have never been an issue. I just see them as something that makes the function of transforming possible for the toys. But things like back packs, butt flaps, and even kibble have never bothered me. (how dare you slander BW Neo!
)But I agree on the moderation. there are plenty of packs that are excessive. Like a lot of movie toys that are trying to achieve screen accuracy, and just can't physically, in real time and space do so with out cheating.
The worst is when a back pack throws of a toys center of gravity and they can't even stand. Enter heel spurs!
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I think for me, the hatred comes from these figures supposedly being Masterpiece figures. I understand that a backpack at times may be necessary, due to the engineering of the figure, but I don't think it should be there on a masterpiece level figure. They should have much cleaner backs, ideally. I usually get over it with time.
Comment by Ironhidensh
Jun 22, 2017
Cobotron wrote:OK. Even Jazz and Sideswipe have their wind shilds on their pack in those drawings. which I consider to be a back pack.
And that reminds me Cyber P. Suntreaker's pack is really kind of one of those iconic details for the character. Like the Seekers shoulder vents, or the Datsons' door wings.
So then I ask again, where does the criticism of back packs come from? Just trying to wrap my mind around it.
And not to beat the poor dead horse, but by golly I love the over all silhouette of Sunstreaker, but the head just kills it for me. PLEASE Takara, do some Diaclone homage with a toy accurate head and will buy it with out hesitation.
I think for me, the hatred comes from these figures supposedly being Masterpiece figures. I understand that a backpack at times may be necessary, due to the engineering of the figure, but I don't think it should be there on a masterpiece level figure. They should have much cleaner backs, ideally. I usually get over it with time.
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I've always felt complaints like that exist to help people justify not buying the figure because they can't afford it.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Jun 22, 2017
Cobotron wrote:Would someone please explain to me where the "I hate back packs" way of thinking originated. Is it derivative of the Bayverse? Or the G1 cartoon?
I just don't get it. 98.6% of every Transformers toy I have handled/owned over the last 32 years has a pack pack of some kind. To me it just comes with the territory. I mean I guess I could think of a few that are over the top or cumbersome, but what exactly do those who dislike back packs expect?
I'm not trying to be an asshat. It's a criticism that never crossed my mind until I entered the fandom and heard it from others.
I've always felt complaints like that exist to help people justify not buying the figure because they can't afford it.
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Comment by SpaceKaseJase
Jun 22, 2017
Aren't we forgetting the fact that some of those backpack parts are from the turbo kit found in vehicle mode? Isn't the turbo assembly removable in vehicle mode? Not sure why SS isn't shown in bot form without that assembly.
