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New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More
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Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More
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Comment by SgtNateV
Sep 9, 2019
*Crosshairs
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Comment by Nemesis Primal
Sep 9, 2019
Crosswise?
I think Apeface continues to look good, save for the white looking weird in that lighting and his ape neck being mistransformed by the looks of it. I'm still a bit hesitant to use Takara's stock photos as proof of final color schemes though, after the unpainted guns they showed with Magnus and Brunt.

I think Apeface continues to look good, save for the white looking weird in that lighting and his ape neck being mistransformed by the looks of it. I'm still a bit hesitant to use Takara's stock photos as proof of final color schemes though, after the unpainted guns they showed with Magnus and Brunt.
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Comment by Quantum Surge
Sep 9, 2019
Only want Apeface.
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Comment by Microbot
Sep 9, 2019
Apeface and Crosshairs look great! Want! the duo minicon...no thanks....look ugly...the weapon mode is just put them on a shoulder in car-mode...no, thanks! Harbro can make it better IMO
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Comment by DeathReviews
Sep 9, 2019
Sigh... I wanted to like Apeface. I had the G1 version back in the day. But after 30 years, this was seriously the best they could do? Lawful heart, that off-white plastic looks like badly melted cheese.
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We will have to wait for the in-hand pictures to she his real colors. Maybe that candle-wax white will not be so bad.
Also, after playing around with Siege Ratchet, I really want Crosswise and Ironhide. That mold is awesome in it's simplicity.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Sep 9, 2019
DeathReviews wrote:Sigh... I wanted to like Apeface. I had the G1 version back in the day. But after 30 years, this was seriously the best they could do? Lawful heart, that off-white plastic looks like badly melted cheese.
We will have to wait for the in-hand pictures to she his real colors. Maybe that candle-wax white will not be so bad.
Also, after playing around with Siege Ratchet, I really want Crosswise and Ironhide. That mold is awesome in it's simplicity.
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Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Sep 9, 2019
Will, you accidentally called Crosshairs "Crosswise" at one point. I'm pretty sure he is not a monster-hunting Bugatti Veyron
That is DEFINITELY a pearlescent white on Apeface. Only pearlescent plastic has that sheen. It should look just fine in person. I mean, it looks great on this guy:

As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,, All the same, Apeface is still a "Shut up and take my money" toy for me.
Speaking of "Shut up and take my money"...

Recently acquired Springer, and I find him a joy to look at and play with.

As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!

Well, okay, the transforming rotor sword is nice. But occasionally lending that to SIEGE Springer is the ONLY thing keeping me from putting the T30 version (which I only bought as filler) up for trade.
That is DEFINITELY a pearlescent white on Apeface. Only pearlescent plastic has that sheen. It should look just fine in person. I mean, it looks great on this guy:

As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,, All the same, Apeface is still a "Shut up and take my money" toy for me.
Speaking of "Shut up and take my money"...

Recently acquired Springer, and I find him a joy to look at and play with.

As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!

Well, okay, the transforming rotor sword is nice. But occasionally lending that to SIEGE Springer is the ONLY thing keeping me from putting the T30 version (which I only bought as filler) up for trade.
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Comment by Stargrave
Sep 9, 2019
Powertrain, Highjump, and Red Heat are lacking Autobrands. What the hell time to commit or get off the cyberpotty now come on troops.
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Comment by Stargrave
Sep 9, 2019
Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.
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Comment by Stormshot_Prime
Sep 10, 2019
Anyone else notice that bizarre double sided Headmaster? Or am I just seeing things?
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Part of the Horrorcons' design schtick was that their Headmaster partners formed both the robot head and the beast head. However, the need to be interchangeable with other Titan Masters means that SIEGE Spasma can't fit the full gorilla muzzle on his back, so he only has the optic band and plugs in to complete the gorilla head (much like Revolver does for TR Six Shot's wolf head, only even more important). This also keeps the gorilla head from being undersized.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Sep 10, 2019
What about Holo Mirage?Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.
You're not. But it's actually to be expected with Spasma!Stormshot_Prime wrote:Anyone else notice that bizarre double sided Headmaster? Or am I just seeing things?



Part of the Horrorcons' design schtick was that their Headmaster partners formed both the robot head and the beast head. However, the need to be interchangeable with other Titan Masters means that SIEGE Spasma can't fit the full gorilla muzzle on his back, so he only has the optic band and plugs in to complete the gorilla head (much like Revolver does for TR Six Shot's wolf head, only even more important). This also keeps the gorilla head from being undersized.
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Comment by Stargrave
Sep 10, 2019
Dude good call! I don’t have holo Mirage yet.
He’s the only redless force that can withstand Shockwave’s redless onslaught.
He’s the only redless force that can withstand Shockwave’s redless onslaught.
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IDK, those alt modes for Thrilling 30 Springer are really great. And I even have a G1 Springer, so Siege gets nostalgia points.
My take on Apeface is why those blocky shoulders? All it needed was some angled intakes like the original. It’s sad for me, too, as Apeface’s spaceship design was one of my G1 favorites.
Comment by emlit
Sep 10, 2019
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,,
As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!
IDK, those alt modes for Thrilling 30 Springer are really great. And I even have a G1 Springer, so Siege gets nostalgia points.
My take on Apeface is why those blocky shoulders? All it needed was some angled intakes like the original. It’s sad for me, too, as Apeface’s spaceship design was one of my G1 favorites.
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Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Sep 10, 2019
I think T30 Springer's helicopter mode is a mess, and my copy is rather uncooperative when it comes to things lining up right in altmode.
Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"
Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"
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Comment by frogbat
Sep 10, 2019
still to receive my springer. Looking forward to him cos I definitely prefer the g1 sequel look over the thrilling 30s (I appreciate sandstorm more). Of this next batch, think I've ordered the lot except for the Micromaster which wasn't available but am looking forward to getting him too.
Apeface looks ok - not exceptional, but a good attempt. the plastic will probably look better in hand.
Apeface looks ok - not exceptional, but a good attempt. the plastic will probably look better in hand.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Sep 10, 2019
I much prefer the G1 reimagined look of T30 Springer, far more dynamic and fits the original theme of classics but of course different design teams have different visions and at least people have official options depending on their own tastes.
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Comment by Emerje
Sep 10, 2019
Siege Springer is a much more complex figure than he looks in photos. The conversion from car to helicopter isn't nearly as straightforward as it appears.
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No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.
Comment by emlit
Sep 10, 2019
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"
No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.
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Comment by blackeyedprime
Sep 10, 2019
Think I prefer the thrilling 30 Springer, Sieges copters a bit off and not sure about car mode. Robot mode, legs could have done with being longer so it looks less clunky. Yet to pick one up so I'll see if I still feel the same when I have him.
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Take a proper look at SIEGE Apeface:

And now look at the original:

Notice the color difference of that spot? On SIEGE Apeface, that spot is made from the gorilla forearms, not the back of the upper arms. So it's the gorilla forearms that would need the slope.
Adding a slope onto the shoulder itself that projects past that point wouldn't work, because it would block the arm's outward movement.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Sep 10, 2019
emlit wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"
No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.

Take a proper look at SIEGE Apeface:

And now look at the original:

Notice the color difference of that spot? On SIEGE Apeface, that spot is made from the gorilla forearms, not the back of the upper arms. So it's the gorilla forearms that would need the slope.
Adding a slope onto the shoulder itself that projects past that point wouldn't work, because it would block the arm's outward movement.