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Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys

Posted by william-james88 Aug 23, 2018 at 12:54pm CDT 25,116 views
While more high resolution scans would be fun, we wanted to share all the Transformers goodness found in the latest issue of the Figure King Magazine. While this highlights Takara releases, these are for the most part the same figures we are getting from Hasbro (including the Masterpiece toys). The one figure that so far still seems to be Takara exclusive is the Legendary Optimus Prime, which we finally have an image showing us how big it truly is.

We see an image comparing it to the voyager Evasion Mode Optimus Prime, showing it to be the size of a modern day leader class toy (or just about). Speaking of scale, we also see how big Micromasters are, which is the exact same size as the Prime Master decoy armour (so slightly bigger than their G1 counterparts). We also get a sense of how big the Power Charge Bumblebee toy is in vehicle mode.

We also see other Transformers Siege toys, but nothing that has yet to be revealed. What is curious is that the Optimus Pime we are seeing does not have weathering effects. It is unknown if that means there will be a difference between Takara and Hasbro (which would go against what we have been told) or if this is simply an early figure and the final result will be different. We have yet to see the finished product from Hasbro too, since everything we have seen of Siege was a painted model.

We also see Masterpiece Optimus Prime version 3 which highlights his articulation and backpack.

And there is more, much more, like Takara Tomy Studio Series Starcream, Movie Bumblebee and KSI Sentry, MPM-06 Ironhide, Encore Big Convoy, Studio Series DOTM Ratcher, Ironhide and Shadow Raider, PP Throne Of The Primes, Masterpiece Wheeljack, Legends Grotusque and Repugnus and the Unite Warriors reissues.














Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys
Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys

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Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Octobotimus Aug 23, 2018
wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Counterpunch Aug 23, 2018
Pay more to avoid weathering paint apps?

Uhg...

Fine.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Randomhero Aug 23, 2018
Counterpunch wrote:Pay more to avoid weathering paint apps?

Uhg...

Fine.



Sideswipe has the weathering so it’s probaky just takara painted proto
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by SkyFire Prime Aug 23, 2018
He still has the wear paint aps just the lighting and quality of photo obscuring it's view, check the standing pose, left leg.

Also the wear aps are invisible depending on angle of light.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Emerje Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Octobotimus Aug 23, 2018
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled.... (the freaking thing transforms the same and has the same molding). i feel like there is some denial here purely cause i mentioned they ripped off a ko.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled.... (the freaking thing transforms the same and has the same molding). i feel like there is some denial here purely cause i mentioned they ripped off a ko.

Its been proven not to be the same mold upscaled, the transformation is different

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... old/41723/

It looks like those who dont want to admit its a new mold are in denial and much preffer the idea of Takara ripping off a KO
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Overcracker Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled....


It's literally not the same mold.

There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.

Things end up in very different places.

It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.

Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:

william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.

By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.

Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.

These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.

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Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Carnivius_Prime Aug 23, 2018
That Prime tempts me even if it won't scale with Studio but only if it's released in the UK and at a reasonable price.


Micromasters... I liked them back in the day as Transformers I could easily sneak into school and such but these days they don't really work for me as mainline figures. They're just too ridiculously out of scale with non-Micromaster figures. Legends/Legions make sense because they're small simpler alternatives of characters who have larger more complex figures and serve a different purpose to them.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Octobotimus Aug 23, 2018
Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled....


It's literally not the same mold.

There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.

Things end up in very different places.

It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.

Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:

william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.

By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.

Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.

These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.

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if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Emerje Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.

I really don't know why you can't admit you're wrong when the photos don't lie. These two don't have a single part in common, upscaled or otherwise, and the transformation is only similar, but has a bunch of key changes. The arms don't even transform the same way anymore with more compact forearms and shoulder pads that are their own part rather than sculpted on. The truck has a bunch of new parts not found like the chromed portion on the back of the cab and the entire back end near the trailer mount.

Emerje
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Randomhero Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:wow..... they oversized the evasion prime and added the same upgrades to it as the weijang KO did..... the fact that they had to copy a KO and still look worse than it is depressing.... (good job weijang on making an awesome ko that even takara wanted to copy)

It's a new mold, not an upscale.

Emerje

its literally the same mold upscaled....


It's literally not the same mold.

There are enough engineering, transformation, and detailing differences to negate that.

Things end up in very different places.

It looks the same, because its meant to look the same, same robot mode and same truck mode, but its not the same mold, upscaled by a long shot.

Quoting WJ, from the Bumblebee Movie thread:

william-james88 wrote:The fandom is currently puzzled over the new reveal from Takara Tomy of an Evasion Mode Optimus Prime toy for their upcoming Transformers Bumblebee Movie toyline. How different is it from the previous mold? How much of a retool is it, along with it being an upscale? Well, from certain angles, the changes seem minimal, but at others, as you will see, it might be a completely new mold sharing some transformation steps.

By comparing to images of the Age of Extinction toy, you will notice that everything related to the arms is completely different. The shoulder armour is made of individual pieces, giving further proof that this does have a parts count more akin to a leader class toy. The forearms are completely different too and none of the details match.

Another huge difference, where it seems the transformation itself differs, is when we look at the back. Not only does the back of the top half have different pieces, but in the legs we can see that instead of him having two wheels at his calves, he has two wheels near his hips. So, judging by all this, it is far more likely that this is a new mold using some tricks and design cues of the first toy, like the foot transformation.

These new photos come to us from the Toyswalker facebook page.

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if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.


How are you able to see what you’re typing with such awful eyesight?
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Overcracker Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.


I do own the mold, and that's why I know its not the same mold.

Do you not see the difference in shoulders, the difference in where one set of wheels ends up on the thighs instead of the lower legs, the difference in back panels. Feet are different, head is different, the upper legs are similar but clearly not the same, the lower legs are different. He has hinges on his side view mirrors. Hands are different. Forearms are different.

Yes, there are similarities in transformation, and engineering, its the same truck mode, transforming into the same robot mode sure, but the overall mold has very little of the Voyager Evasion Mode Prime.

That's like saying these 2 are the same toy, and Leader Class Megatron is just upscaled from the voyager toy.

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Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Octobotimus Aug 23, 2018
Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:if you own the mold, please, transform it a couple times and compare it to the pics of this guy. it transformers the same, the truck is the same, the arms have not been fixed (as in the elbows are the same) its planely obvious.... if this considered a new mold then weijang's optimus shouldn't be called a KO either. since that clearly had the same if not more changes compared to this "new" mold.


I do own the mold, and that's why I know its not the same mold.

Do you not see the difference in shoulders, the difference in where one set of wheels ends up on the thighs instead of the lower legs, the difference in back panels. Feet are different, head is different, the upper legs are similar but clearly not the same, the lower legs are different. He has hinges on his side view mirrors.

Yes, there are similarities in transformation, and engineering, its the same truck mode, transforming into the same robot mode sure, but the overall mold has very little of the Voyager Evasion Mode Prime.

That's like saying these 2 are the same toy, and Leader Class Megatron is just upscaled from the voyager toy.

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ok now your comparing figures that don't have a single detail thats the same nor do they transform the same... i'm comparing two primes that clearly transform the same, have the same exact details in the legs, crotch, chest, most of vehicle mode. next you'll be telling me tlk hot rod is a completely new mold.... it seems the main reason i'm getting all this flak is cause you people think i support ko's.... (i DON'T) i bet not too long ago you were the same people saying the SS starscream is an upscaled version of the dotm deluxe. but even that figure had more original components than this thing..
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Wolfman Jake Aug 23, 2018
You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Octobotimus Aug 23, 2018
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, please make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Arnoud Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.
I'm with octobotimus on this one. They definitely used the evasion Optimus as the basis for this figure. You can see the same panel lines on the cab of the truck. His feet also end up on the same place as the Voyager and his arms also have the front windows on them, again, just like the evasion mode Prime. They just took that mold, upscaled it and improved upon it.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Omega-Doom Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, please make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.


HasTak probably based the figure off of the Age of Extinction figure but then they drastically changed it, you've been shown pictures of how it is different, just accept the fact that you are wrong and that your opinion is invalid since it is clearly wrong and not even possible. If you think it was a straight upscale with a couple of retoolings then in your eyes every figure that shares similar engineering is clearly the same figure.

Not to be a prick but here is an example of a couple of figures that look similar but are completely different.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Overcracker Aug 23, 2018
Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.


Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?

Leader Class Legendary
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Voyager Evasion Mode
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Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.

Leader Class Legendary
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Voyager Evasion Mode
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Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.

Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.

Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.

Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.


Leader Class Legendary
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Voyager Evasion Mode
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Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.

Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.

Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.

Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.

The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.



If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.
Re: Latest Figure King Magazine Featuring Legendary Optimus, Siege, MP Optimus V3 and Bumblebee Toys (view post)
Comment by Octobotimus Aug 23, 2018
Overcracker wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:You're getting so much flak because you are objectively and demonstrably wrong.

Ok, pls make a side by side showing that the legs, crotch, chest, and arms are not the same.... and that it doesn’t transform the same way. please do so and prove me wrong.


Did you miss all the comparison pictures above showing the differences?

Leader Class Legendary
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Voyager Evasion Mode
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Nore the hinged gray panel in the middle which does not exist on the Evasion Mode Prime.

Leader Class Legendary
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Voyager Evasion Mode
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Notice the shoulder pieces are separate pieces to the actual shoulder joint where Evasion Mode has a molded shoulder.

Notice the bicep pieces are completely different between the two of them.

Notice the forearms have more panels on Legendary, than on Evasion, and do not have the panel covering the hand.

Notice how the hands are articulated, instead of being molded in one piece.


Leader Class Legendary
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Voyager Evasion Mode
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Notice the back panel is different. Being larger on Legendary than on Evasion, and having to extra blue panels.

Notice how the the crotch piece is while very similar not the same. With an L shaped groove on Legendary.

Notice how the lower legs are a completely different mold, do not have the second tire, and also do not appear to rotate like Evasion Mode's legs did for transformation. They transform some other way. Unclear how yet.

Notice how even the backs of the feet are different.

The Gas tanks rotate on Legendary where they don't on Evasion Mode.



If you think Voyager Megatron, and Leader Megatron do not share any detailing, then I don't know what to tell you anymore.

ok so yes, there are added on bits. but the core figure has remained the same. the thing with those 2 megatrons didn't make sense because the transformation was completely differently. these 2 primes transform identically with just an extra 2 or so steps with the new one. adding bits to the original doesn't exactly make it a completely new mold, which many seem to be making the case.
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