RF-004 Security Chief Final Design and Orders Open

These sets actually went live on the 18th and as of the 20th at 2:00 EST there are less than 100 red and 50 black left.

Yep, I've already got mine ordered and paid for. Can't wait to get it and see what else Venkata has to offer. He continues to up his game with every release, highly recommended.

thanks for post got red one orderd looking forward to the weapons fro classic prime & megatron

Hey guys. Theres been like over 40 orders submitted since Seibertron front paged this news. If people are willing to be patient, I will accept all orders. I was going to only accept the 30 orders total, as of posting the news on Friday. I was close to that, already, as of last night. However, I can take all orders, as long as everyone knows I'm one guy doing this.

Also, I wanted to point out about the head issues. I stated on the Renderform site some assistance is needed to move the head up and down for transformation. I actually have fixed this issue with all kits that are being shipped, as well, as helped create a tighter neck joint. I'm basically test fitting all heads, to ensure they pass my strict guideline. This takes a bit more time, but I'm sure people will appreciate the better quality. You still have to put the head in proper position, to allow it to slide down, just like with the original toy head.

Anyways, please give me some time to go through the submitted orders and invoice everyone. Thanks for your support.

F**k they're limited? I'm broke so I'm probably going to miss out on this.

Hope there's going to be a restock on these since they look awesome.

I like with how with both heads, the Classics and Henkei versions look sufficiently different to pass as seperate characters.

I'd use the red head for a Seeker type security force. After 27 years, it's about time that the Ark's security director had a security force.

Sorry everyone. Orders have been stopped. There have been over 80 orders submitted, and I have to go through them all. I will limit 1 kit per person to ensure as many individuals can get one.

Damn, I ordered one just a few minutes ago. I hope I got in just as the gate closed and not before.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Damn, I ordered one just a few minutes ago. I hope I got in just as the gate closed and not before.

I'm going to limit 1 kit per order now. Hopefully I will have some kits left. But not guaranteed if I will for sure. Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

Venksta wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Damn, I ordered one just a few minutes ago. I hope I got in just as the gate closed and not before.

I'm going to limit 1 kit per order now. Hopefully I will have some kits left. But not guaranteed if I will for sure. Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

Wow, this set really took off. I'm glad I was able to grab one of the early sets. If you aren't able to grab this set Gauntlet101010, keep your eyes open for his Sideswipe and Cliffjumper upgrades.

Any chance on a second run of this set later down the road Venksta?

Venksta wrote:Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

That's a pretty unprofessional thing to do, blaming the customers for the limited run and pricing when so many are simply voicing their disappointment in being able to obtain your product.

If your reasoning is true and you really kept orders low due to the initial reaction, of the PROTOTYPE then you've got a helluva lot to learn. That's one of the reasons companies even release images of their prototypes, to gauge fan reaction and make changes. Not to brag or say, "look at this cool thing I'm doing".

But you took that "negative" reaction to your prototype and you did what you should: fixed the problems and made a better product. Good job.

The problem is that I don't remember seeing any images of the NEW and FINAL head sculpt being paraded around here or your site until the very day you opened orders in the first place - there was literally no time to gauge reactions to the new sculpt and adjust production accordingly to fan reaction.

So for you to just say "too bad you guys thought it sucked when I showed you a crappy version otherwise I'd made more and made it cheap" is a pretty crappy thing to do to those of us who like your work and want to support an up and coming 3rd partier.

Not cool.

C-109 wrote:

Venksta wrote:Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

That's a pretty unprofessional thing to do, blaming the customers for the limited run and pricing when so many are simply voicing their disappointment in being able to obtain your product.

If your reasoning is true and you really kept orders low due to the initial reaction, of the PROTOTYPE then you've got a helluva lot to learn. That's one of the reasons companies even release images of their prototypes, to gauge fan reaction and make changes. Not to brag or say, "look at this cool thing I'm doing".

But you took that "negative" reaction to your prototype and you did what you should: fixed the problems and made a better product. Good job.

I think you are upset and not really thinking it through. Renderform is a one man show, not a company. The prototype was to gather interest. The final product isnt that much different than the prototype and Venksta stated the changes he was making. So, I think he kind of has to make a quota based on interest so he doesn't lose money, go under, and then not be able to offer us any future upgrades.

Venksta does very good work and is a great contributor. You have one post to your name, back off.

amcgrath929 wrote:

Venksta wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Damn, I ordered one just a few minutes ago. I hope I got in just as the gate closed and not before.

I'm going to limit 1 kit per order now. Hopefully I will have some kits left. But not guaranteed if I will for sure. Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

Wow, this set really took off. I'm glad I was able to grab one of the early sets. If you aren't able to grab this set Gauntlet101010, keep your eyes open for his Sideswipe and Cliffjumper upgrades.

Any chance on a second run of this set later down the road Venksta?

Oooo, I just got home, and I threw in an order, so I hope I didn't miss out.

I would have bought a black version (for Sideswipe), But I know for sure those are gone by now

But if you are doing a straight up Sideswipe noggin, put me down for one.

amcgrath929 wrote:I think you are upset and not really thinking it through. Renderform is a one man show, not a company. The prototype was to gather interest. The final product isnt that much different than the prototype and Venksta stated the changes he was making. So, I think he kind of has to make a quota based on interest so he doesn't lose money, go under, and then not be able to offer us any future upgrades.

I understand and emphasize with the fact that Venksta works alone, having worked in garage kits for a few years, I totally get what he's dealing with. The pressure is very real and it's there. However, I also know that you don't, in any business, blame poor decisions on your customers.

The item I'm taking issue with is that he says that the initial reaction to the prototype was negative and therefore he limited the kits and made them more expensive as a result. And this would have been absolutely fine, but then he went back and fixed the initial problems that people had complained about and rather than showing the new version and gauging interest, he just put it up for order. Again, wouldn't be a problem, it's his call - BUT, he then blames the short supply on the negative feedback from the prototype and not the fact that he didn't bother to preview and gauge reaction to the new sculpt. Basically, he shifted blame on the customer base and that's where I have an issue.

C-109 wrote:

Venksta wrote:Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

That's a pretty unprofessional thing to do, blaming the customers for the limited run and pricing when so many are simply voicing their disappointment in being able to obtain your product.

If your reasoning is true and you really kept orders low due to the initial reaction, of the PROTOTYPE then you've got a helluva lot to learn. That's one of the reasons companies even release images of their prototypes, to gauge fan reaction and make changes. Not to brag or say, "look at this cool thing I'm doing".

But you took that "negative" reaction to your prototype and you did what you should: fixed the problems and made a better product. Good job.

The problem is that I don't remember seeing any images of the NEW and FINAL head sculpt being paraded around here or your site until the very day you opened orders in the first place - there was literally no time to gauge reactions to the new sculpt and adjust production accordingly to fan reaction.

So for you to just say "too bad you guys thought it sucked when I showed you a crappy version otherwise I'd made more and made it cheap" is a pretty crappy thing to do to those of us who like your work and want to support an up and coming 3rd partier.

Not cool.

You are right. The way I said it was unprofessional. However, it is true the run number was affected by negative reaction. This is because even with positive reaction, it won't mean the kit will sell that well, if I made enough for every single person that said they would buy it. For example, I had a waiting list for the new batch of Skyfall kits. I asked for 40 people to commit to buying it, so I could start the new run. I ended up getting over 70 people on the list, by the time I could start production. However, only 30 people got back to me from that list. And around 20 of them actually bought the kit.

This was also true for the waiting list for the Red Alert kit. If every single person on that list had bought a kit, I wouldn't even have many kits to offer on my website. The original run, when I began this project, was going to be 300 kits. As none of the other upgrade kits, up till then, had sold out, or sold very well, after the waiting lists, I thought 300 seemed like a good number. I was going to make 200 red sets, and 100 black sets. While people asked to go on the waiting list, most of them just wanted the red set. So with the reaction from the boards, and those on the waiting list, I decided 150 red sets, and 50 black sets, would be plenty for those on the waiting list, and enough extra for those that weren't. But after taking orders from the waiting list first, I decided to bump the numbers up. So the final run, combined, is 275 sets. 25 sets less, than what I originally planned.

If everyone was positive about the Red Alert set, from the beginning, I would most likely do no more than 350 sets. Maybe if somehow I was guaranteed to sell 400 sets, its possible the run could be that high. However, I'm only one person. And doing this takes a lot of time. So I don't want to be making the same kit over and over. And 400 wouldn't mean much, if I decided to end the run at 350 after, after being sick and tired of making them for a couple months. There are tons of other ideas I want to produce. So I do have to keep my production run small. Blaming the actual run for this kit on the initial negative reaction was unfair for me. And I apologize for it.

Geekee1 wrote:Venksta does very good work and is a great contributor. You have one post to your name, back off.

That is BS. The number of someone's previous posts has nothing to do with the validity of their statements nor is any one person infallible regardless of their contributions to a community. Venksta is no more exempt from public critique than are elected officials, which is to say, not at all. So, in closing, I'd ask that you "back off" unless you have new information that would provide my previous critique of the situation flawed or invalid rather than "dude's cool, back off!" as that's a pretty weak response.

C-109 wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:I think you are upset and not really thinking it through. Renderform is a one man show, not a company. The prototype was to gather interest. The final product isnt that much different than the prototype and Venksta stated the changes he was making. So, I think he kind of has to make a quota based on interest so he doesn't lose money, go under, and then not be able to offer us any future upgrades.

I understand and emphasize with the fact that Venksta works alone, having worked in garage kits for a few years, I totally get what he's dealing with. The pressure is very real and it's there. However, I also know that you don't, in any business, blame poor decisions on your customers.

The item I'm taking issue with is that he says that the initial reaction to the prototype was negative and therefore he limited the kits and made them more expensive as a result. And this would have been absolutely fine, but then he went back and fixed the initial problems that people had complained about and rather than showing the new version and gauging interest, he just put it up for order. Again, wouldn't be a problem, it's his call - BUT, he then blames the short supply on the negative feedback from the prototype and not the fact that he didn't bother to preview and gauge reaction to the new sculpt. Basically, he shifted blame on the customer base and that's where I have an issue.

If most of you view Renderform as an actual business, then I seriously need to really increase my prices. I can't even afford to offer my stuff to BBTS, when they have asked to carry it, with out taking a huge loss.

The final price for the kit is not more expensive at all. Not sure where you even got that from. If you looked on TFW, where the original price, of $26 was shown, back in December, then I still don't know how you would of come up with saying it got more expensive. Yes, its $1 more, however, there were many more costs I didn't even expect, back then.

Venksta wrote:

C-109 wrote:

Venksta wrote:Too bad the original reaction to the prototype for this kit was negative. Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper. Since I've already shipped kits out, I can't change the run number.

That's a pretty unprofessional thing to do, blaming the customers for the limited run and pricing when so many are simply voicing their disappointment in being able to obtain your product.

If your reasoning is true and you really kept orders low due to the initial reaction, of the PROTOTYPE then you've got a helluva lot to learn. That's one of the reasons companies even release images of their prototypes, to gauge fan reaction and make changes. Not to brag or say, "look at this cool thing I'm doing".

But you took that "negative" reaction to your prototype and you did what you should: fixed the problems and made a better product. Good job.

The problem is that I don't remember seeing any images of the NEW and FINAL head sculpt being paraded around here or your site until the very day you opened orders in the first place - there was literally no time to gauge reactions to the new sculpt and adjust production accordingly to fan reaction.

So for you to just say "too bad you guys thought it sucked when I showed you a crappy version otherwise I'd made more and made it cheap" is a pretty crappy thing to do to those of us who like your work and want to support an up and coming 3rd partier.

Not cool.

You are right. The way I said it was unprofessional. However, it is true the run number was affected by negative reaction. This is because even with positive reaction, it won't mean the kit will sell that well, if I made enough for every single person that said they would buy it. For example, I had a waiting list for the new batch of Skyfall kits. I asked for 40 people to commit to buying it, so I could start the new run. I ended up getting over 70 people on the list, by the time I could start production. However, only 30 people got back to me from that list. And around 20 of them actually bought the kit.

This was also true for the waiting list for the Red Alert kit. If every single person on that list had bought a kit, I wouldn't even have many kits to offer on my website. The original run, when I began this project, was going to be 300 kits. As none of the other upgrade kits, up till then, had sold out, or sold very well, after the waiting lists, I thought 300 seemed like a good number. I was going to make 200 red sets, and 100 black sets. While people asked to go on the waiting list, most of them just wanted the red set. So with the reaction from the boards, and those on the waiting list, I decided 150 red sets, and 50 black sets, would be plenty for those on the waiting list, and enough extra for those that weren't. But after taking orders from the waiting list first, I decided to bump the numbers up. So the final run, combined, is 275 sets. 25 sets less, than what I originally planned.

If everyone was positive about the Red Alert set, from the beginning, I would most likely do no more than 350 sets. Maybe if somehow I was guaranteed to sell 400 sets, its possible the run could be that high. However, I'm only one person. And doing this takes a lot of time. So I don't want to be making the same kit over and over. And 400 wouldn't mean much, if I decided to end the run at 350 after, after being sick and tired of making them for a couple months. There are tons of other ideas I want to produce. So I do have to keep my production run small. Blaming the actual run for this kit on the initial negative reaction was unfair for me. And I apologize for it.

Thank you for clarifying the situation from your end. In the GK community, we'd often take paid pre-orders upfront and I think you're certainly in a position to consider such a thing in the future if you think that'd help. Also, a little advance word on when orders going live would have been nice, I missed the kit I wanted and can live with it, I've donated most of my disposable income for the month anyway, but a head's up would be nice for those interested. Maybe setup a mailing list through mailchimp or something or announce it on the blog for your rss subscribers. But again, thank your for taking the time to post and clarify your decision making process.

Venksta wrote:If most of you view Renderform as an actual business, then I seriously need to really increase my prices. I can't even afford to offer my stuff to BBTS, when they have asked to carry it, with out taking a huge loss.

Whether you are one man or 100, self-distribute or not, the manufacture and selling of goods to consumers is a business, and you should handle yourself accordingly. The scale of your business and/or number of your transactions is irrelevant to the manner of how you carry and handle your dealings.

Venksta wrote:The final price for the kit is not more expensive at all. Not sure where you even got that from. If you looked on TFW, where the original price, of $26 was shown, back in December, then I still don't know how you would of come up with saying it got more expensive. Yes, its $1 more, however, there were many more costs I didn't even expect, back then.

From you, actually, in a previous post where you stated:

Venksta wrote: Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper.

Any delay in this news was Seibertron's news crew's fault. We apologize for any inconvenience we caused by missing the news earlier. Sorry!

C-109 wrote:
From you, actually, in a previous post where you stated:

Venksta wrote: Otherwise I would of made done a bigger run, and make it a bit cheaper.

Ah, ok. Thought you meant something else, which confused me. Yeah, if a run of 300 or more was set in stone, and not changed from earlier on, I would love to sell it cheaper. Probably not good for me, in terms of recouping cost, but I'd enjoy the fact I can offer it for less. Same reason I don't pack kits in boxes. Keep the shipping cost down for everyone is huge for me, as I know many people factor it into the total cost. As well, its always funny to deal with fans overseas, who are scared thinking shipping would cost $20. Then I tell them, for most items its around $5.

As for notices, its hard for me to post everywhere. I'm not sure what Hasbro thinks about my Renderform stuff. But I do my best to play it safe, as I would love to continue making these kits. So one mentality I have, is to not push my stuff into the spot light. That does have some positives and negatives. I do have the facebook page, where I did give people advance info on orders going up on Friday. I'll try to work with the sites like Seibertron to announce things. However, it might make it harder to get at that point, especially when I do lower run sets.

Thanks for bring these issues up, C-109. There are always things to learn, and I believe you just saved me a huge headache and disaster with the Dreadwind upgrade.

C-109 wrote:

Geekee1 wrote:Venksta does very good work and is a great contributor. You have one post to your name, back off.

That is BS. The number of someone's previous posts has nothing to do with the validity of their statements nor is any one person infallible regardless of their contributions to a community. Venksta is no more exempt from public critique than are elected officials, which is to say, not at all. So, in closing, I'd ask that you "back off" unless you have new information that would provide my previous critique of the situation flawed or invalid rather than "dude's cool, back off!" as that's a pretty weak response.

You know what, you're right. I went back and reread what you wrote. While I didn't like the tone, you're overall argument was good, although I don't really think Venskta was trying to blame anything on the customers, more just covering his ass. I'm sure that all the pain killers that I'm on right now are not helping my comprehension or reasoning skills. I'll man up when I'm wrong. Now give me a friggin hug!

Nice. But I won't be investing in this as I like my Red Alert as he is w/ the Gear of War missile launcher.

Ah blast it, I actually bought the figure just because of this set and it goes on sale right as I'm walking to work. XD

Ah well...[s]here's hoping it becomes available again down the line once the dust settles...[/s] Heh, so much for *that* too. I'll just retire Red Alert off my desk outright then. I really do wish I would've known earlier that you'd planned on this being as limited a set as it was without repeats.

Whatever the case, hope all goes well for filling out the orders.

Well, some good news, and bad news. Bad news first, a lot of the orders were missing emails! So I can't invoice them at all. I have 30 orders that I have yet to check. If they are all for the Red Set, then I will have about 26 Black sets only available. So basically, if you placed an order before I removed the two kits from the order form, you will be able to get to order a set! And for anyone who posted in this thread, before this post, stating they missed out, I will contact you when the time comes, in case I can accommodate you. If any sets are available after, I'll decide the fairest way to to make them available.

Niiice venks! I can't wait for mine. I 'm also waiting to hear about sideswipe. Keep up the good work.

Just paid for the red set. Cant wait to get that head on Red.
Im real glade that I was able to get that order in.

Venksta wrote:Well, some good news, and bad news. Bad news first, a lot of the orders were missing emails! So I can't invoice them at all. I have 30 orders that I have yet to check. If they are all for the Red Set, then I will have about 26 Black sets only available. So basically, if you placed an order before I removed the two kits from the order form, you will be able to get to order a set! And for anyone who posted in this thread, before this post, stating they missed out, I will contact you when the time comes, in case I can accommodate you. If any sets are available after, I'll decide the fairest way to to make them available.

I placed an order & posted in the thread, here's hoping with fingers crossed!

Venksta wrote:Well, some good news, and bad news. Bad news first, a lot of the orders were missing emails! So I can't invoice them at all. I have 30 orders that I have yet to check. If they are all for the Red Set, then I will have about 26 Black sets only available. So basically, if you placed an order before I removed the two kits from the order form, you will be able to get to order a set! And for anyone who posted in this thread, before this post, stating they missed out, I will contact you when the time comes, in case I can accommodate you. If any sets are available after, I'll decide the fairest way to to make them available.

That's all right, one of the orders was mine, but I placed a re-order with the email address almost right after.

I'm excited!

Hi Venksta,

Please include me in the list of those that would like a red set should some become available - I would love to be able to complete my daughter's Red Alert for her.

I've got a Gear of War launcher and the black head doesn't bother me, but this looks good for the people who really wanted a different head and a rocket launcher.

I haven't received an invoice yet. Venksta, I've sent you a PM with the details of my order in case I left the email off; I hope I'm still able to get a kit.

Might I suggest that the "paypal email" field be moved nearer to the top of the order form page where it's more difficult to miss?

Hi everyone. I still haven't gone through the last 30 orders that were placed. Hopefully by monday. I want to make sure no one misses out on the kit, that I had previously promised to, before Sunday. If you did put your email in your Renderform submitted order, you will get an email, if you made it or not.

As well, if you follow the facebook page, I'm taking suggestions for releasing a second red head sub set. The colors would have to be different, to make sure RF-004R remains unique. One idea would be to give the face yellow eyes, a black gun, and maybe translucent red parts for the shoulder rocket? Feel free to make suggestions. As well, if you missed out, or have ordered a RF-004 kit, please post your opinion about a second red kit being released. As I don't want anyone feeling screwed over.

metaphorge wrote:I haven't received an invoice yet. Venksta, I've sent you a PM with the details of my order in case I left the email off; I hope I'm still able to get a kit.

Might I suggest that the "paypal email" field be moved nearer to the top of the order form page where it's more difficult to miss?

PM replied. Changing the paypal email field won't help. Some people will just not bother taking time to fill all information out, no matter what way I arrange the field. The original name for that field was just "Email address", then I changed it to "Paypal email" hoping everyone would know it was important to fill out.

Venksta wrote:Hi everyone. I still haven't gone through the last 30 orders that were placed. Hopefully by monday. I want to make sure no one misses out on the kit, that I had previously promised to, before Sunday. If you did put your email in your Renderform submitted order, you will get an email, if you made it or not.

As well, if you follow the facebook page, I'm taking suggestions for releasing a second red head sub set. The colors would have to be different, to make sure RF-004R remains unique. One idea would be to give the face yellow eyes, a black gun, and maybe translucent red parts for the shoulder rocket? Feel free to make suggestions. As well, if you missed out, or have ordered a RF-004 kit, please post your opinion about a second red kit being released. As I don't want anyone feeling screwed over.

Just my $0.02 coming from an impartial source that probably won't order a set either way (I think these are really cool, but a bit too spendy and not quite necessary enough for me personally)...I'd probably be more put off if it were different and I found it better than the one I (hypothetically) already ordered rather than if you just did another run of the same thing. Were they promised as an "exclusive" run?

I'd just buy both.

Not much point in a cartoon accurate head with yellow eyes. The key to making it different is probably the gun.

I'm currently in the "maybe" category, and I'm hoping I was able to place an order, just so you know my perspective.

I think Kibble has a good point.
Did you ever claim that this was an "exclusive" run?

If you simply misgauged the interest for the product, a second pressing is not a bad thing. That way more people that want the product can get one, and you get to sell more units.

If you keep everything the same, including the price, I would see no harm in that either way.

I would be more than happy to purchase a cartoon-accurate version of the RF-004 set, featuring a red head with yellow eyes, and a red version of the handgun. However, I would have my doubts about a shoulder launcher featuring translucent parts - I think it would make more sense to keep the barrel white, and the missile red, as it is now. (A splash of yellow on the end of the missile might be interesting though).

I will say that if translucency is the desired direction, then perhaps the 'horns' on the head could be molded in a translucent blue plastic? (Simulating their tendency to 'flash' when the character detects an incoming threat.) I think this may be a highly desirable feature for the new set.

Venksta wrote:Hi everyone. I still haven't gone through the last 30 orders that were placed. Hopefully by monday. I want to make sure no one misses out on the kit, that I had previously promised to, before Sunday. If you did put your email in your Renderform submitted order, you will get an email, if you made it or not.

As well, if you follow the facebook page, I'm taking suggestions for releasing a second red head sub set. The colors would have to be different, to make sure RF-004R remains unique. One idea would be to give the face yellow eyes, a black gun, and maybe translucent red parts for the shoulder rocket? Feel free to make suggestions. As well, if you missed out, or have ordered a RF-004 kit, please post your opinion about a second red kit being released. As I don't want anyone feeling screwed over.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:I'd just buy both.

Agreed I originally bought the black head so I'd love for the red version to be re-released, especially with a black rifle.

You know what'd be better than yellow eyes? Red circles under his eyes and pink paint on his head light things. To mimick his crazy look.

Has anyone received theirs yet?

I will be going through the last 30 orders today.

As an update for more red sets, or a variant. I'm leaning towards releasing something based on the planned Sideswipe upgrade. Looking at my schedule, I wouldn't have time to release a new version of the red head set any time soon anyways. With the Sideswipe upgrade, all the parts are different from the RF-004 set. So there would be no issues releasing parts in cartoon accurate colors with that version.

amcgrath929 wrote:Has anyone received theirs yet?

I'll finish shipping the first 100 orders by Wednesday. Then orders #101 to 125 should be out by Saturday. I am emailing everyone once their orders are shipped. Some local collectors have gotten their kits, and a bunch of people should be receiving their kits in the next couple days in the mail.

Venksta wrote:I will be going through the last 30 orders today.

As an update for more red sets, or a variant. I'm leaning towards releasing something based on the planned Sideswipe upgrade. Looking at my schedule, I wouldn't have time to release a new version of the red head set any time soon anyways. With the Sideswipe upgrade, all the parts are different from the RF-004 set. So there would be no issues releasing parts in cartoon accurate colors with that version.

amcgrath929 wrote:Has anyone received theirs yet?

I'll finish shipping the first 100 orders by Wednesday. Then orders #101 to 125 should be out by Saturday. I am emailing everyone once their orders are shipped. Some local collectors have gotten their kits, and a bunch of people should be receiving their kits in the next couple days in the mail.

Awesome. Thanks for the heads up. I cannot wait.

First of all I want to say that I think you do excellent work and I am dying to own one of your sets.

However, it seems to be very hard to obtain one unless you live on the computer day and night. I do not. I dont work in an office so people buy em all up before I even know they are up for order.

I have also read some of the information on your site that states you want to make each run unique to keep collectors happy in terms of value. Thats where i have to respectfully disagree. I believe if you are in business, customer satisfaction requires sufficent stock of a product. And in your favor, theres some money to be made here on the RF-004 set.

I know some collectors are very greedy and cant seem to get over the "mine all mine" syndrome. Personally, as long as I have a set of my own to enjoy, I could care less if one million other people own one too. Let everyone who wants a cartoon accurate Red Alert be happy. Theres enough plastic in the world to go around, and people got the cash to keep your business thriving as long as you are willing to hook them up.

Give us a 2nd run of identical sets of the RF-004 set in red. (most popular and what I want) Let the test of time be what makes these sets exclusive, rather than a number. Like any other collectable, many will be lost in 5-10 years due to different unfortunate circumstances. Then the people who managed to hold on to it all those years have earned it's value.


Thats just my opinion, and I hope it helps you do whats best to expand your business and make more potential customers. Like I said before, you do excellent work. But it shouldnt have to be a race against the clock to purchace your products. You got my e-mail on your list. Get at me if I can still buy a Red Alert set (in red) or a complete Skyfall set with the black head.

Rated X wrote:First of all I want to say that I think you do excellent work and I am dying to own one of your sets.

However, it seems to be very hard to obtain one unless you live on the computer day and night. I do not. I dont work in an office so people buy em all up before I even know they are up for order.

I have also read some of the information on your site that states you want to make each run unique to keep collectors happy in terms of value. Thats where i have to respectfully disagree. I believe if you are in business, customer satisfaction requires sufficent stock of a product. And in your favor, theres some money to be made here on the RF-004 set.

I know some collectors are very greedy and cant seem to get over the "mine all mine" syndrome. Personally, as long as I have a set of my own to enjoy, I could care less if one million other people own one too. Let everyone who wants a cartoon accurate Red Alert be happy. Theres enough plastic in the world to go around, and people got the cash to keep your business thriving as long as you are willing to hook them up.

Give us a 2nd run of identical sets of the RF-004 set in red. (most popular and what I want) Let the test of time be what makes these sets exclusive, rather than a number. Like any other collectable, many will be lost in 5-10 years due to different unfortunate circumstances. Then the people who managed to hold on to it all those years have earned it's value.


Thats just my opinion, and I hope it helps you do whats best to expand your business and make more potential customers. Like I said before, you do excellent work. But it shouldnt have to be a race against the clock to purchace your products. You got my e-mail on your list. Get at me if I can still buy a Red Alert set (in red) or a complete Skyfall set with the black head.

You can still get the Skyfall set here: http://www.renderform.com/?page_id=563

Rated X wrote:First of all I want to say that I think you do excellent work and I am dying to own one of your sets.

However, it seems to be very hard to obtain one unless you live on the computer day and night. I do not. I dont work in an office so people buy em all up before I even know they are up for order.
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I've mentioned somethings about the limited run numbers, with the collector cards. Besides helping make the sets special, their also a limit, to force me to stop making the particular set. For one person, it can get very tiresome to having to keep casting, cleaning, and assembling the same kit over and over again. As well, with my limited free time, I do have other projects I want to work on. Having to keep making the same set over, and over, stops me from starting something new.

For RF-004, as I mentioned, I had given people a 1 week heads up that the kit would go for sale on my website. And then, there was a two day period, before Seibertron frontpaged the news. In that time, I only had about 5 orders placed. And before the kit was available on my website, I actually had it up for sale on TFW, for about 2 weeks. And only got about 2 or 3 orders, when I placed the listing up in my sales thread there. So depending on where you hang out, in the TF online community, the kit didn't sell out right away. It does appear so, for most people on Seibertron though. And it something I'll work on, to ensure there will be more time to get people aware of when the sale goes live for future items.

For Darkwind, I will give a one week notice, starting with the photos of the final version. And that kit will be sold in batches, so there will be a couple chances to order it. However, even though RF-004 is almost sold out, I'm not going to increase the run numbers for future kits. Especially when the previous two kits didn't sell out yet. Skyfall's kit is still for sale. And the Universe Blaster kits are far from selling out.

But thanks for your opinion, its good to know what others thoughts are. And it helps me to see if I can change some things around, if possible.

Venksta wrote:

Rated X wrote:First of all I want to say that I think you do excellent work and I am dying to own one of your sets.

However, it seems to be very hard to obtain one unless you live on the computer day and night. I do not. I dont work in an office so people buy em all up before I even know they are up for order.
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I've mentioned somethings about the limited run numbers, with the collector cards. Besides helping make the sets special, their also a limit, to force me to stop making the particular set. For one person, it can get very tiresome to having to keep casting, cleaning, and assembling the same kit over and over again. As well, with my limited free time, I do have other projects I want to work on. Having to keep making the same set over, and over, stops me from starting something new.

For RF-004, as I mentioned, I had given people a 1 week heads up that the kit would go for sale on my website. And then, there was a two day period, before Seibertron frontpaged the news. In that time, I only had about 5 orders placed. And before the kit was available on my website, I actually had it up for sale on TFW, for about 2 weeks. And only got about 2 or 3 orders, when I placed the listing up in my sales thread there. So depending on where you hang out, in the TF online community, the kit didn't sell out right away. It does appear so, for most people on Seibertron though. And it something I'll work on, to ensure there will be more time to get people aware of when the sale goes live for future items.

For Darkwind, I will give a one week notice, starting with the photos of the final version. And that kit will be sold in batches, so there will be a couple chances to order it. However, even though RF-004 is almost sold out, I'm not going to increase the run numbers for future kits. Especially when the previous two kits didn't sell out yet. Skyfall's kit is still for sale. And the Universe Blaster kits are far from selling out.

But thanks for your opinion, its good to know what others thoughts are. And it helps me to see if I can change some things around, if possible.

I got you bro. I only use Seibertron.com. Never really got into TFW 2005 cause the layout looks weird. But yeah bro by the time I get home from work at 1030 PM to place an order theyre all gone. But I just visited your site and placed an order for the RF-002 – Empyrean Espionage full set. I hope its the black one I ordered so please hook me up. You said the RF-004 is "almost sold out" so I must ask if I still got a shot at ordering the red set ??? If yes, just add it to my invoice with the Skyfall set. If not, I hope you can consider another run for red alert in the future. Maybe not right away, but when you have time to get all the people from Seibertron that missed out.