
Shockwave to be Repacked in Wave 2 of Transformers Siege Leader Class
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Jan 16, 2019 at 10:12pm CST
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Re: Shockwave to be Repacked in Wave 2 of Transformers Siege Leader Class
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Comment by Nemesis Maximo
Jan 16, 2019
Good, because I haven’t seen Shockwave anywhere at retail here in Northern Michigan. I don’t wanna miss out.
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Comment by Lore Keeper
Jan 16, 2019
I still have a hard time accepting that we're only getting three leaders for this whole line. It just seems so... skimpy. It's good on the ol' bank account, but I do like having a more steady stream of things to collect to keep from getting bored.
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Think about it, we had 4 waves of Studio Series last year and only 2 leaders. And we only had 4 leaders in POTP, so 3 is in the middle.
Comment by william-james88
Jan 16, 2019
Lore Keeper wrote:I still have a hard time accepting that we're only getting three leaders for this whole line. It just seems so... skimpy. It's good on the ol' bank account, but I do like having a more steady stream of things to collect to keep from getting bored.
Think about it, we had 4 waves of Studio Series last year and only 2 leaders. And we only had 4 leaders in POTP, so 3 is in the middle.
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Compared to Combiner Wars and Titans Return, it seems a bit low, but in the Prime Wars Trilogy, that Class in particular relied on co-tools (redecos, retools and the like) for padding out the assortments. Plus, like PotP with its 4 Leaders, Siege is only 1 year.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jan 16, 2019
william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:I still have a hard time accepting that we're only getting three leaders for this whole line. It just seems so... skimpy. It's good on the ol' bank account, but I do like having a more steady stream of things to collect to keep from getting bored.
Think about it, we had 4 waves of Studio Series last year and only 2 leaders. And we only had 4 leaders in POTP, so 3 is in the middle.
Compared to Combiner Wars and Titans Return, it seems a bit low, but in the Prime Wars Trilogy, that Class in particular relied on co-tools (redecos, retools and the like) for padding out the assortments. Plus, like PotP with its 4 Leaders, Siege is only 1 year.
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Thats why I didnt compare to other lines, it would not be a fair comparison. We should instead look at how many leaders come out per year in a line.
Comment by william-james88
Jan 16, 2019
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:I still have a hard time accepting that we're only getting three leaders for this whole line. It just seems so... skimpy. It's good on the ol' bank account, but I do like having a more steady stream of things to collect to keep from getting bored.
Think about it, we had 4 waves of Studio Series last year and only 2 leaders. And we only had 4 leaders in POTP, so 3 is in the middle.
Compared to Combiner Wars and Titans Return, it seems a bit low, but in the Prime Wars Trilogy, that Class in particular relied on co-tools (redecos, retools and the like) for padding out the assortments. Plus, like PotP with its 4 Leaders, Siege is only 1 year.
Thats why I didnt compare to other lines, it would not be a fair comparison. We should instead look at how many leaders come out per year in a line.
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Comment by Flashwave
Jan 17, 2019
So, this may not mean anything. I really hope it doesnt. My local Meijer is rezoning their Toy Section and they left the Map of Transformers figures out for me to see.
There's not as far as I saw a provision for Leader Figures in the shelf space. Everyhring else os accounted for, but not those. Are these Leader dudes just gonna be that hard to find???
There's not as far as I saw a provision for Leader Figures in the shelf space. Everyhring else os accounted for, but not those. Are these Leader dudes just gonna be that hard to find???
Re: Shockwave to be Repacked in Wave 2 of Transformers Siege Leader Class
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Last I counted, we got 16 in main retail the past 4 years, and 5 exclusives. Of the main retail ones, 8 were directly based on earlier figures.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jan 17, 2019
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:I still have a hard time accepting that we're only getting three leaders for this whole line. It just seems so... skimpy. It's good on the ol' bank account, but I do like having a more steady stream of things to collect to keep from getting bored.
Think about it, we had 4 waves of Studio Series last year and only 2 leaders. And we only had 4 leaders in POTP, so 3 is in the middle.
Compared to Combiner Wars and Titans Return, it seems a bit low, but in the Prime Wars Trilogy, that Class in particular relied on co-tools (redecos, retools and the like) for padding out the assortments. Plus, like PotP with its 4 Leaders, Siege is only 1 year.
Thats why I didnt compare to other lines, it would not be a fair comparison. We should instead look at how many leaders come out per year in a line.
Last I counted, we got 16 in main retail the past 4 years, and 5 exclusives. Of the main retail ones, 8 were directly based on earlier figures.
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Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Jan 17, 2019
Dangit. When it said repacked I kinda hoped it meant as a voyager class minus the backpack (that I don't want) so more affordable.
Would be nice to have the option. 


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Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Jan 17, 2019
Honestly, a small number of Leader molds is fairly average. CW and TR had a high number of Leader releases, but there was mold-use maximizing going on with redecoes (3 of the CW Leaders were Seekers and one of the others was a headswap redeco) and co-tools (heck, the CW Seeker mold is a retool/co-tool of T30 Jetfire).
RiD:
3 Leader molds. not counting the re-used Laser Optimus mold
Armada:
1 Leader mold
Energon:
2 Leader molds
Cybertron:
3 Leader molds
Movie 1:
3 Leader molds
Animated:
3 Leader molds
RotF:
3 Leader molds, 4 if you include HFTD Starscream. Probably the peak for different original Leader-class molds with Screamer factored in.
DotM:
3 Leader molds
Thrilling 30:
1 Leader mold, a first for CHUG toys.
AoE:
2 Leader molds
Combiner Wars:
2 all-new Leader molds plus one heavy retool/co-tool of the T30 Leader
Titans Return:
3 original molds (two of which had co-tools), plus one heavy retool of a Combiner wars mold
The Last Knight:
2 new Leader molds
Power of the Primes:
3 new Leader molds
WFC SIEGE:
2 new Leader molds, one of which has a heavy co-tool.
RiD:
3 Leader molds. not counting the re-used Laser Optimus mold
Armada:
1 Leader mold
Energon:
2 Leader molds
Cybertron:
3 Leader molds
Movie 1:
3 Leader molds
Animated:
3 Leader molds
RotF:
3 Leader molds, 4 if you include HFTD Starscream. Probably the peak for different original Leader-class molds with Screamer factored in.
DotM:
3 Leader molds
Thrilling 30:
1 Leader mold, a first for CHUG toys.
AoE:
2 Leader molds
Combiner Wars:
2 all-new Leader molds plus one heavy retool/co-tool of the T30 Leader
Titans Return:
3 original molds (two of which had co-tools), plus one heavy retool of a Combiner wars mold
The Last Knight:
2 new Leader molds
Power of the Primes:
3 new Leader molds
WFC SIEGE:
2 new Leader molds, one of which has a heavy co-tool.
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and Studio Series now has 4 unique Leader molds (Grimlock, Blackout, Jetfire, DotM Megatron) though is into it's second year.
Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Jan 17, 2019
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:*long list*
and Studio Series now has 4 unique Leader molds (Grimlock, Blackout, Jetfire, DotM Megatron) though is into it's second year.
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Comment by Dannshinigami
Jan 17, 2019
Siege is only the first part of a trilogy so they dont want to jump the shark so to speak and put all the good stuff in this line and deter from the 2 lines to follow.
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I think the second and third parts will follow suite as far as composition goes. Especially sticking with scale, we may see more Voyagers with extras to fill out three leader slots
Comment by ZeroWolf
Jan 17, 2019
Dannshinigami wrote:Siege is only the first part of a trilogy so they dont want to jump the shark so to speak and put all the good stuff in this line and deter from the 2 lines to follow.
I think the second and third parts will follow suite as far as composition goes. Especially sticking with scale, we may see more Voyagers with extras to fill out three leader slots
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Yeah, which puts PotP ahead of Studio Series since PotP got three new Leader molds in one year and SS is getting four Leaders in two years (maybe three years, we've only had a small preview of SS in 2020). Heck, if you look at some of the other lines in terms of how long they lasted as opposed to just how many Leaders they have PotP was a real stand out for new molds in a single year.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jan 17, 2019
Carnivius_Prime wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:*long list*
and Studio Series now has 4 unique Leader molds (Grimlock, Blackout, Jetfire, DotM Megatron) though is into it's second year.
Yeah, which puts PotP ahead of Studio Series since PotP got three new Leader molds in one year and SS is getting four Leaders in two years (maybe three years, we've only had a small preview of SS in 2020). Heck, if you look at some of the other lines in terms of how long they lasted as opposed to just how many Leaders they have PotP was a real stand out for new molds in a single year.
Emerje
Re: Shockwave to be Repacked in Wave 2 of Transformers Siege Leader Class
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I've got an answer for you.
While we as adult collectors can easily keep track of pieces, children can't. This is a line for kids, and I'm actually giving them to my kids. They've already lost a piece if Dog and one of Magnus's shoulder armor. I'm sure it will all be found one day, but the point remains, parts forming makes for easily lost pieces, and that makes headaches for a parent. I hate parts forming far more now than I did before kids. Then, it was just slightly annoying.
Comment by Ironhidensh
Jan 17, 2019
Randomhero wrote:What’s with the partsforming hate? Seriously it’s been around for 35 years. When did being negative about something that’s literally nothing become a dirty word? I don’t understand people who say complain about it. especially when the gimmick of weaponizers in their line is they come apart to become modular weapons and armor.
I've got an answer for you.
While we as adult collectors can easily keep track of pieces, children can't. This is a line for kids, and I'm actually giving them to my kids. They've already lost a piece if Dog and one of Magnus's shoulder armor. I'm sure it will all be found one day, but the point remains, parts forming makes for easily lost pieces, and that makes headaches for a parent. I hate parts forming far more now than I did before kids. Then, it was just slightly annoying.
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Wasn't this the reason parents weren't keen on headmasters on the past and why Energon Omega Supreme ended up having a spare head built into his neck incase the headmaster was ever lost?
Comment by ZeroWolf
Jan 17, 2019
Ironhidensh wrote:Randomhero wrote:What’s with the partsforming hate? Seriously it’s been around for 35 years. When did being negative about something that’s literally nothing become a dirty word? I don’t understand people who say complain about it. especially when the gimmick of weaponizers in their line is they come apart to become modular weapons and armor.
I've got an answer for you.
While we as adult collectors can easily keep track of pieces, children can't. This is a line for kids, and I'm actually hid In ? Them to my kids. They've already lost a piece if Dog and one of Magnus's shoulder armor. I'm sure it will all be found one day, but the point remains, parts forming makes for easily lost pieces, and that makes headaches for a parent. I hate parts forming far more now than I did before kids. Then, it was just slightly annoying.
Wasn't this the reason parents weren't keen on headmasters on the past and why Energon Omega Supreme ended up having a spare head built into his neck incase the headmaster was ever lost?
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Comment by jtanimator
Jan 17, 2019
Glad they're repacking this guy. He deserves ALL the attention he can get. I was just so lucky to pick him up at my local Walmart a week ago and I haven't loved a figure this much in a LONG time. People are complaining that he's too small, and yes, he is essentially a slightly upgraded voyager, but gosh dang it if he's not 100% worth it. He's sturdy, got great detail, TONS of playability, a fun transformation, and that extra set of robot arms may just be the coolest armor upgrade I've ever seen on a decepticon. Not to mention that hover board made from his armor just looks tight af. Both him and UM are top grade in every way. If downsizing your leader classes means getting this level of quality, by all means Hasbro, carry on.



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Comment by Cyber Bishop
Jan 17, 2019
And I don't know if anyone realizes this but they only ship two leaders at a time in the box. When I had a Target employee bring me a box I thought he was joking as it was only Magnus and Shockwave.
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Dude this is transformers. Adult fan don’t give a damn about kids. There’s people who think we are the primary buyers of this stuff and kids don’t play with these. There’s people who believe hasbro only makes stuff for 30+ adults and act entitled and say they deserve better quality.
Kudos that you want to give these to your kids and don’t want them losing parts but your a sliver of the fandom that’s the vocal minority. When you see parts forming about 3rd parties, those arnt people wanting to hand it off
Tomoids.
Comment by Randomhero
Jan 17, 2019
Ironhidensh wrote:Randomhero wrote:What’s with the partsforming hate? Seriously it’s been around for 35 years. When did being negative about something that’s literally nothing become a dirty word? I don’t understand people who say complain about it. especially when the gimmick of weaponizers in their line is they come apart to become modular weapons and armor.
I've got an answer for you.
While we as adult collectors can easily keep track of pieces, children can't. This is a line for kids, and I'm actually giving them to my kids. They've already lost a piece if Dog and one of Magnus's shoulder armor. I'm sure it will all be found one day, but the point remains, parts forming makes for easily lost pieces, and that makes headaches for a parent. I hate parts forming far more now than I did before kids. Then, it was just slightly annoying.
Dude this is transformers. Adult fan don’t give a damn about kids. There’s people who think we are the primary buyers of this stuff and kids don’t play with these. There’s people who believe hasbro only makes stuff for 30+ adults and act entitled and say they deserve better quality.
Kudos that you want to give these to your kids and don’t want them losing parts but your a sliver of the fandom that’s the vocal minority. When you see parts forming about 3rd parties, those arnt people wanting to hand it off
Tomoids.
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Comment by Randomhero
Jan 17, 2019
Stupid phone double posting
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I haven't seen anyone complain this much about the 3rd party legends class figures that go for 40-60$! I really justify the price if it means getting a nicely scaled, detailed, articulated figure of a 'con who just hasn't gotten the right amount of pizzazz over the years. Really, I don't think he deserves nearly as much hate as he does now, but that's my opinion I guess. I'd get him if I weren't on such a tight budget, but that's literally the only reason why I might not get him.
Comment by Nathaniel Prime
Jan 17, 2019
jtanimator wrote:Glad they're repacking this guy. He deserves ALL the attention he can get. I was just so lucky to pick him up at my local Walmart a week ago and I haven't loved a figure this much in a LONG time. People are complaining that he's too small, and yes, he is essentially a slightly upgraded voyager, but gosh dang it if he's not 100% worth it. He's sturdy, got great detail, TONS of playability, a fun transformation, and that extra set of robot arms may just be the coolest armor upgrade I've ever seen on a decepticon. Not to mention that hover board made from his armor just looks tight af. Both him and UM are top grade in every way. If downsizing your leader classes means getting this level of quality, by all means Hasbro, carry on.![]()
I haven't seen anyone complain this much about the 3rd party legends class figures that go for 40-60$! I really justify the price if it means getting a nicely scaled, detailed, articulated figure of a 'con who just hasn't gotten the right amount of pizzazz over the years. Really, I don't think he deserves nearly as much hate as he does now, but that's my opinion I guess. I'd get him if I weren't on such a tight budget, but that's literally the only reason why I might not get him.