Some Issues to Check for when Receiving HasLab Transformers Victory Saber
Friday, December 9th, 2022 6:28PM CST
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While the paint defects, overspray and scratches have been common, they vary wildly from one sample to the next. The defect that has come up often is that one of the slots for Saber's nosecone has not been cut out. It is the most recurring defect attributed to sculpting so far and it prevents the nosecone from attaching properly to form the alt mode. There has also been a report from fellow Seibertronian Cloudbaloon that the handle to their V-Lock Canon is missing. And lastly, the face flap for Victory Leo is very tight, which can lead to breakage, as you can see in the image below from Thebricklord.
For MISB collectors, the box isn't actually sealed, so checking for these issues would not result in unsealing the box.
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Posted by SpaceEagle on December 9th, 2022 @ 9:23pm CST
I'm still excited to get hands on mine soon but let's say go hope these issues are caught and resolved!
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 9th, 2022 @ 9:43pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 9th, 2022 @ 11:02pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Because of that this set has a leg up since we're getting Victory Leo.
Are you saying that MP Victory Leo will finally be a thing? I never heard it announced from anywhere.
I think he means this set has a leg up on ole MP 24 Because it is Victory Star Saber.
I do wonder why Takara never followed through with Victory Leo, did MP24 not sell well?
Even though it was the best selling toy the first week it was released, it quickly dropped off and is the worst selling MP in history.
Posted by o.supreme on December 9th, 2022 @ 11:07pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2022 @ 11:13pm CST
According to FedEx, mine shipped from Elwood, IL.o.supreme wrote:I assumed Haslab items shipping from Chino CA were for mostly Western U.S. orders.
Posted by roughhouse on December 9th, 2022 @ 11:31pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2022 @ 4:57am CST
william-james88 wrote:For MISB collectors, the box isn't actually sealed, so checking for these issues would not result in unsealing the box.
Not true. The box IS sealed. Kinda. There's that shipping box where FeDex applied the stickers, wrote on it, and so on. Then tight inside, there's the brown shipping box that Hasbro use for all their toys. THAT one is sealed. So for the HASLAB Victory Saber to remain "sealed", that brown box must remain sealed. However, it will totally suck as a display piece. So I'm not opening my second set at all. When I'll sell it, I'll just issue dire warnings in the listing that the thing is completely sealed and uninspected.
cloudballoon wrote:I unpacked everything and found the canon is missing the handle!
Ahem... Look closely on the Victory Leo side of the box. The main canon handle is a separate piece.
As for mine, it doesn't seem to have any defects, misassembly, nor scuffed chrome. I'll do a proper unboxing and review later today and create a thread.
Posted by Omegatron. on December 10th, 2022 @ 6:48am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:cloudballoon wrote:I unpacked everything and found the canon is missing the handle!
Ahem... Look closely on the Victory Leo side of the box. The main canon handle is a separate piece.
I think that's the shield handle you're looking at. The cannon handle is built in and non-removable.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2022 @ 7:40am CST
Omegatron. wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:cloudballoon wrote:I unpacked everything and found the canon is missing the handle!
Ahem... Look closely on the Victory Leo side of the box. The main canon handle is a separate piece.
I think that's the shield handle you're looking at. The cannon handle is built in and non-removable.
Well, I'll have to unpack further and look at the instructions.
Posted by cloudballoon on December 10th, 2022 @ 9:34am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Omegatron. wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:cloudballoon wrote:I unpacked everything and found the canon is missing the handle!
Ahem... Look closely on the Victory Leo side of the box. The main canon handle is a separate piece.
I think that's the shield handle you're looking at. The cannon handle is built in and non-removable.
Well, I'll have to unpack further and look at the instructions.
Omegatron's correct. The light grey piece located at the upper right of Victory Leo is for the shield. The cannon's handle should be black (? at least in Thew's video & in HasLab's render/sample). By the look of things after I unscrewed the front "flap", the cannon handle piece's contruction should look similar to this:
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2022 @ 10:33am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2022 @ 10:44am CST
william-james88 wrote:Yes the canon handle is black and already affixed to the canon. You can remove the astuc tray to see if it's intact from under without undoing the plastic ties
Safe.
Posted by cloudballoon on December 10th, 2022 @ 11:34am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yes the canon handle is black and already affixed to the canon. You can remove the astuc tray to see if it's intact from under without undoing the plastic ties
Safe.
I'm just pissed that it's 3 for 3 of my last orders from Hasbro Pulse that have serious functional defects.
Happy for you though!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2022 @ 11:41am CST
cloudballoon wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yes the canon handle is black and already affixed to the canon. You can remove the astuc tray to see if it's intact from under without undoing the plastic ties
Safe.
I'm just pissed that it's 3 for 3 of my last orders from Hasbro Pulse that have serious functional defects.
Happy for you though!
Damn!
I'll have to get on the proper unboxing and pictorial review.
Posted by LinaNui on December 10th, 2022 @ 12:05pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 10th, 2022 @ 2:43pm CST
As JJonah Jameson once said..... " If they don't want to be famous, I'll make them Infamous!"
El Chino !
El Chino !!
El Chino !!!!
Posted by Bumblevivisector on December 10th, 2022 @ 3:41pm CST
I'm going to find a very fine file and grind down the lower corner a bit before I attempt to fully transform him. Unless someone has a suggestion of a specific tool that'd be perfect for the job?
Posted by Bumblevivisector on December 10th, 2022 @ 4:11pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2022 @ 5:06pm CST
So far so good, nothing seems to be missing nor any defects. I could be full OCD and say that the gold chrome on both Saber and Leo have some blemishes, but you really need a magnifying glass to notice them.
Expect the full pictorial review tonight.
Posted by Crosscheck on December 10th, 2022 @ 7:06pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 10th, 2022 @ 8:36pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 10th, 2022 @ 9:39pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 10th, 2022 @ 9:59pm CST
Posted by First-Aid on December 10th, 2022 @ 10:18pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Much to my annoyance, my Victory Saber had an attempted delivery this morning while I was away, so it didn't get delivered. Now to see what happens next
Same.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2022 @ 10:32pm CST
Click on the link below to see it:
transformers-haslab-victory-saber-review-with-comparisons-against-the-g1-original--p2151325.php#p2151325
Posted by cloudballoon on December 10th, 2022 @ 11:58pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:My pictorial review is finally done.
Click on the link below to see it:
transformers-haslab-victory-saber-review-with-comparisons-against-the-g1-original--p2151325.php#p2151325
Thanks you for the review! I'm enjoying my VS more after reading your review, as my missing cannon's handle really bummed me out. However after two days, I'm slowly getting around to it and able to start enjoying it after fixing a few looseness issues and overlooking other QC issues that I can't fix (like the gold chrome). Fortunately, Victory Leo's face flap that many people had trouble with isn't on my copy, it's tight at first, but after a few careful flipping back & forth, it's tightness is now "perfect" (and the black paint held!) and I felt it and everything else can take some abuse during transformation & posing.
I made a long 5mm rod so I can connect the cannon on either side of the hips of both Victory Leo & Star Saber. So at least the cannon is not totally useless. That also made me felt better.
VS costs like a current full-price Titan to me as a Canadian (nearing $300CDN, comparing to the recent Metroplex's Canadian MRSP+tax). Of all the Titans, I only own Devastator, Predaking & The Ark and they all cost me half the price of VS or less. Althought I understand it's a bit of a apple v orange comparison, but money-for-fun-wise, I think VS is far more fun than 2 Arks but not as fun as a single Combiner, though VS is far better looking. So I think, it's an 30% overpriced item IF it's a mass-retail.
What do you guys think? Is the money well-spent as a play/display piece? (i.e. Not meant to make a profit by selling)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 11th, 2022 @ 12:16am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 11th, 2022 @ 12:37am CST
cloudballoon wrote:VS costs like a current full-price Titan to me as a Canadian (nearing $300CDN, comparing to the recent Metroplex's Canadian MRSP+tax). Of all the Titans, I only own Devastator, Predaking & The Ark and they all cost me half the price of VS or less. Althought I understand it's a bit of a apple v orange comparison, but money-for-fun-wise, I think VS is far more fun than 2 Arks but not as fun as a single Combiner, though VS is far better looking. So I think, it's an 30% overpriced item IF it's a mass-retail.
Also Canadian here.
Ironically, my Legacy Metroplex costed me more than a HASLAB Victory Saber set. Like, around 50$CAN more! That is counting taxes and shipping. Considering that the VS set is basically a deluxe + commander + leader + 2 micromasters, I think I've got WAY more for my money with the VS set than Legacy Metroplex ever will.
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 11th, 2022 @ 12:38am CST
Also I'm really glad the handle for the sword can extend, great for a dual-grip on it but it also means he can hold it in one hand with the hilt facing the "right way".
Posted by cloudballoon on December 11th, 2022 @ 1:39am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:cloudballoon wrote:VS costs like a current full-price Titan to me as a Canadian (nearing $300CDN, comparing to the recent Metroplex's Canadian MRSP+tax). Of all the Titans, I only own Devastator, Predaking & The Ark and they all cost me half the price of VS or less. Althought I understand it's a bit of a apple v orange comparison, but money-for-fun-wise, I think VS is far more fun than 2 Arks but not as fun as a single Combiner, though VS is far better looking. So I think, it's an 30% overpriced item IF it's a mass-retail.
Also Canadian here.
Ironically, my Legacy Metroplex costed me more than a HASLAB Victory Saber set. Like, around 50$CAN more! That is counting taxes and shipping. Considering that the VS set is basically a deluxe + commander + leader + 2 micromasters, I think I've got WAY more for my money with the VS set than Legacy Metroplex ever will.
That's the standard calculation I used too when I backed VS. But in hand, because of how closely integrated the Brainmaster, Saber & V-Star are integrated, I don't see them like separate Deluxe/Commander figures. It's more like the package contains a Commander (or Commander Plus) and the Leader Victory Leo.
But I'm thinking less about what size-class figurees the VS got, just the fun factor for the money. And VS is pretty unique from all the G1 fun. It's more like the ROTF/SS OP+Jetfire in its fun factor/play pattern, which I appreciate a LOT.
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on December 11th, 2022 @ 6:24am CST
Finally got to unbox it yesterday, and thankfully no missing handles or unperforated holes. Victory Leo's gold has...not a scratch, but maybe a scuff? It's like a straight line that's not aa shiny as it should be. Also, the Micro Masters seem loose in some spots, and really tight in others. When I backed, I really wanted them to be included, because I wanted to get the most for my money, but they are my least favourite part of the whole package. Other than that, everything seems perfect. Or as perfect as one would expect from Hasbro these days.
Now, unpopular opinion time: I kinda think Commander Jetfire was a better toy cost vs enjoyment wise. Maybe that's because I never watched Victory before this HasLab was announced, and I backed it from a mix of FOMO and the fact he looks cool. Or maybe I'm not enjoying him as much as I should because he was so darned expensive and I'm a little afraid to play with him. I am terrified I'm gonna break something and be mad at myself.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I backed and think it's a neat toy. I just think he didn't quite live up to the hype in my own mind. Maybe messing around with it more will change my mind. So far I've just tried out all the modes, haven't really posed them or anything.
Oh, and remember in one early video, the Haabro team showed the butterfly joint in the shoulders, and people complained it wasn't truly a butterfly joint because you had to unhook the joint? Either Haabro changed that or the guys just mis-spoke, because the shoulder is a full on ratcheting joint.
Posted by Emerje on December 11th, 2022 @ 7:40am CST
Emerje
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 11th, 2022 @ 8:54am CST
Emerje wrote:FedEx has me a little confused. The tracking both says arriving Monday and on the truck out for delivery. Sucks that Hasbro is requiring a signature, I'm rarely available to receive packages. I wonder why some people are just having them dropped off without notice?
Emerje
Generally from my experience, if it's on a truck before 6am, its coming that day, unless its Sunday since they don't seem to operate on Sunday, but being December those rules don't necessarily apply now.
Posted by Immortal Starscream on December 11th, 2022 @ 11:05am CST
Posted by cloudballoon on December 11th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CST
MeGrimlock78 wrote:Oh, and remember in one early video, the Haabro team showed the butterfly joint in the shoulders, and people complained it wasn't truly a butterfly joint because you had to unhook the joint? Either Haabro changed that or the guys just mis-spoke, because the shoulder is a full on ratcheting joint.
The shoulder joints can butterlfy forward AND back. The one moving the shoulder forward is ratcheted, the one moving backward is not (this is what some people complained about).
Also, both Saber & Victory Saber can do forward ab-crunch. While Saber's is necessary for transformation, VS is not, that's also appreciated.
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 11th, 2022 @ 5:03pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 11th, 2022 @ 7:36pm CST
It's a real neat set, I have been messing with it a few hours, and it's fun.
QC wise, mine has the issue where the one nosecone tab is filled in, so I had to gouge it out, not very successfully, but enough for me to be at least satisfied.
AS for the package, it is a great looking team. Victory Leo is my favorite of the group, I love the lion man. Star Saber is real solid, I like how dense he feels. Victory Saber himself is real cool and makes for an impressive display.
really glad I backed the set, it's a nice team. Super excited for Deathsaurus now.
Posted by Emerje on December 11th, 2022 @ 10:18pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Emerje wrote:FedEx has me a little confused. The tracking both says arriving Monday and on the truck out for delivery. Sucks that Hasbro is requiring a signature, I'm rarely available to receive packages. I wonder why some people are just having them dropped off without notice?
Emerje
Generally from my experience, if it's on a truck before 6am, its coming that day, unless its Sunday since they don't seem to operate on Sunday, but being December those rules don't necessarily apply now.
Well guess what? The tracking still says Monday but there was a missed delivery tag on my door today.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on December 11th, 2022 @ 11:30pm CST
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 12th, 2022 @ 12:24am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Looking over the massive instruction sheet, unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to find where the sword blade is supposed to be stored in Star Saber's vehicle mode.
I thought it was able to be stored in the leg just like in robot mode?
Posted by cloudballoon on December 12th, 2022 @ 2:00am CST
SpaceEagle wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Looking over the massive instruction sheet, unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to find where the sword blade is supposed to be stored in Star Saber's vehicle mode.
I thought it was able to be stored in the leg just like in robot mode?
Correct. I didn't read the instructions. But I remember in one of HasLab's video showing the blade is stored in an open slot (beside the yellow knee pad) on the outer side of the legs.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 5:13am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Looking over the massive instruction sheet, unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to find where the sword blade is supposed to be stored in Star Saber's vehicle mode.
I could't figure it out either. G1 win this round for this one.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 12th, 2022 @ 6:24am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Looking over the massive instruction sheet, unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to find where the sword blade is supposed to be stored in Star Saber's vehicle mode.
I could't figure it out either. G1 win this round for this one.
There's a hole for it in his shins. It can stay there in vehicle mode.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 6:39am CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Looking over the massive instruction sheet, unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to find where the sword blade is supposed to be stored in Star Saber's vehicle mode.
I could't figure it out either. G1 win this round for this one.
There's a hole for it in his shins. It can stay there in vehicle mode.
Noted. It will be part of the edits of my pictorial review tonight.
Posted by Omegatron. on December 12th, 2022 @ 8:09am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Looking over the massive instruction sheet, unless I'm missing something, I can't seem to find where the sword blade is supposed to be stored in Star Saber's vehicle mode.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 8:53am CST
Posted by First-Aid on December 12th, 2022 @ 9:40am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Those instructions were made for ants.
Would love to see instruction manuals for us old farts with crappy eyesite. Like large print books.
Man, getting old sucks....
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 12th, 2022 @ 10:11am CST
First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Those instructions were made for ants.
Would love to see instruction manuals for us old farts with crappy eyesight. Like large print books. Man, getting old sucks....
Here's an idea for a Top Ten list:
Top ten BEST transformers instructions manuals.
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 12th, 2022 @ 10:32am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 12th, 2022 @ 10:39am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Those instructions were made for ants.