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Comment by galvatron00
Mar 27, 2015
In waiting for Hasbro to release Bluestreak over here, I may have to find a MP Silverstreak and pre-order this guy. I have no problems displaying all three together LOL 
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Comment by rpetras
Mar 27, 2015
Wow that was quick!
Glad I preordered mine on BBTS already!
Glad I preordered mine on BBTS already!
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Comment by Evil Eye
Mar 27, 2015
Finally! A Bluestreak that is actually blue! Hallelujah!
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Comment by Tsutsukakushi
Mar 27, 2015
These over sized big barbie dolls insults remarks have no value to this thread here. Or to the other 250 plus threads here. Other than being deemed as disruptive. It's gets tiresome seeing these remarks, When ever newer MP TF toys or when HasTak makes a newer CHUG toy bigger than a Deluxe class toy. Seeing these remarks in almost every thread is just too much and very tiresome.
Then further Insinuating that the over sized Barbie dolls, MP TF toys and CHUG toys bigger than deluxe class. Are being made for the younger kids not the adults.
Please, At the very least do a few wiki and other online researching before saying these
untrue over sized Barbie doll MP or CHUG toy line insults remarks.
The Mattel toy company has gone on record countless times. Saying that the bigger more expensive Barbie dolls are being made for the adult collectible market. Sure kids of all ages can buy them. As anyone can buy anything.
HasTak has even gone on record countless times. Stating the Masterpiece Transformers toys main market is adult collectors.
Those bigger G.I Joe vehicles that cost over $100 to $500 that Toys R Us stores carry. Are being made for the adult collectors not the kids.
Most of the bigger newer action figure dolls like those Spawn toys. Those G.I Joe Twelve inch dolls, New MOTU Classic dolls. Are being made for teenagers and adults.
The reasons why most toy companies create the smaller toys is for the kids kids. The adults are not the main targeted market here. Sure adults can buy them. Smaller toys means the kids can easily put them in their book bags. Then carry the toys around with them where ever they go.
While most here love the CHUG toys. Some do not view them as pinnacle best made things that the Transformer toy brands have to offer. Some like myself view the Masterpiece as the best made Transformers toys available.
As most Transformers fans will tell you. Even HasTak stated this several times. The CHUG toy lines often have a small budget. This smaller budget forces short cuts on most of the toys. Ranging from missing paints Applications. Fewer articulated joints, hollow plastic. Smaller toys in their classes. More QC problems, Display posing problems. Sometimes not durable made toys. Lower sculpting, thin less bulky looking toys.
The Masterpiece toys have higher spending budgets per toy. Meaning less short cuts, Higher sculpt. More articulation, Bigger size, more paints applications. Translucent vehicle windows, Die cast parts, Over all better Quality control. More time is spent creating these toys.
Then further Insinuating that the over sized Barbie dolls, MP TF toys and CHUG toys bigger than deluxe class. Are being made for the younger kids not the adults.
Please, At the very least do a few wiki and other online researching before saying these
untrue over sized Barbie doll MP or CHUG toy line insults remarks.
The Mattel toy company has gone on record countless times. Saying that the bigger more expensive Barbie dolls are being made for the adult collectible market. Sure kids of all ages can buy them. As anyone can buy anything.
HasTak has even gone on record countless times. Stating the Masterpiece Transformers toys main market is adult collectors.
Those bigger G.I Joe vehicles that cost over $100 to $500 that Toys R Us stores carry. Are being made for the adult collectors not the kids.
Most of the bigger newer action figure dolls like those Spawn toys. Those G.I Joe Twelve inch dolls, New MOTU Classic dolls. Are being made for teenagers and adults.
The reasons why most toy companies create the smaller toys is for the kids kids. The adults are not the main targeted market here. Sure adults can buy them. Smaller toys means the kids can easily put them in their book bags. Then carry the toys around with them where ever they go.
While most here love the CHUG toys. Some do not view them as pinnacle best made things that the Transformer toy brands have to offer. Some like myself view the Masterpiece as the best made Transformers toys available.
As most Transformers fans will tell you. Even HasTak stated this several times. The CHUG toy lines often have a small budget. This smaller budget forces short cuts on most of the toys. Ranging from missing paints Applications. Fewer articulated joints, hollow plastic. Smaller toys in their classes. More QC problems, Display posing problems. Sometimes not durable made toys. Lower sculpting, thin less bulky looking toys.
The Masterpiece toys have higher spending budgets per toy. Meaning less short cuts, Higher sculpt. More articulation, Bigger size, more paints applications. Translucent vehicle windows, Die cast parts, Over all better Quality control. More time is spent creating these toys.
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Comment by LegendaryAntiHero
Mar 27, 2015
I'm glad I got this toy. The silver paint is beautiful
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Comment by Emerje
Mar 27, 2015
He's back up for pre-order at BBTS. I wonder how they managed to get more? I'm also still trying figure out how they're only $79.99, they can't be making much of any profit off that price.
Emerje
Emerje
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Some overseas sites like Chimungmung.com. Are only charging $59.99 when these MP TF Takara toys are first released. Speculate Takara charges Distributors the MSRP price of $50 to $55 for these toys.
Think charging $79.99, which is $20 to $30 more than the Takara MSRP is not a deal it's the opposite.
Comment by Tsutsukakushi
Mar 27, 2015
Emerje wrote:He's back up for pre-order at BBTS. I wonder how they managed to get more? I'm also still trying figure out how they're only $79.99, they can't be making much of any profit off that price.
Emerje
Some overseas sites like Chimungmung.com. Are only charging $59.99 when these MP TF Takara toys are first released. Speculate Takara charges Distributors the MSRP price of $50 to $55 for these toys.
Think charging $79.99, which is $20 to $30 more than the Takara MSRP is not a deal it's the opposite.
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You cannot possibly know what Takara charges distributors. If you do, by all means share.
Comment by megatronus
Mar 27, 2015
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Emerje wrote:He's back up for pre-order at BBTS. I wonder how they managed to get more? I'm also still trying figure out how they're only $79.99, they can't be making much of any profit off that price.
Emerje
Some overseas sites like Chimungmung.com. Are only charging $59.99 when these MP TF Takara toys are first released. Speculate Takara charges Distributors the MSRP price of $50 to $55 for these toys.
Think charging $79.99, which is $20 to $30 more than the Takara MSRP is not a deal it's the opposite.
You cannot possibly know what Takara charges distributors. If you do, by all means share.
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Comment by JustPlainME
Mar 28, 2015
I like it. I really do. I'll have to pass though. My wallet has taken hit after hit this year and I don't think it's a "must have" piece. If I had the extra cash, I would be all over it though.
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I have no idea what you're talking about and neither do you. This isn't a retail figures, it's a store exclusive. The MSRP is 7,992jpy (US$67) for everyone. Period. It even says in the fine print to refrain from placing large orders for resale, they have the right to cancel those orders. By comparison Takara's MSRP on Tracks is 8,100jpy (US$68). I don't know where you're getting the idea that the MSRP would be anything close to US$50. Yes, some stores DO sell for that low on *retail* MPs (you can pre-order Tracks for under US$48 right now), but that's because they sell in bulk enough to still make a profit selling just above the wholesale price.
Now, when it comes to importers like TFSource or BBTS there's a couple reason why they always sell above the Japanese MSRP. First they have to go through a third party since they can't get accounts with Takara Tomy like they do with Hasbro. Those third parties need to make a profit, too, so there's a markup there. Then there's the overseas shipping by freighter ship, another markup (even more so if shipped by air which you'll see a higher price on). And of course the retailer is going to need to make a profit as well so you get a third markup. That's how you go from a figure (let's use Tracks as an example again) that has a Japanese wholesale price somewhere under US$48 and end up at a price of US$79.99. But as I said before, that's not possible with Bluestreak so who knows how they managed this. It's entirely possible they're selling this at cost this time, but that seem a little foolish.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Mar 28, 2015
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Emerje wrote:He's back up for pre-order at BBTS. I wonder how they managed to get more? I'm also still trying figure out how they're only $79.99, they can't be making much of any profit off that price.
Emerje
Some overseas sites like Chimungmung.com. Are only charging $59.99 when these MP TF Takara toys are first released. Speculate Takara charges Distributors the MSRP price of $50 to $55 for these toys.
Think charging $79.99, which is $20 to $30 more than the Takara MSRP is not a deal it's the opposite.
I have no idea what you're talking about and neither do you. This isn't a retail figures, it's a store exclusive. The MSRP is 7,992jpy (US$67) for everyone. Period. It even says in the fine print to refrain from placing large orders for resale, they have the right to cancel those orders. By comparison Takara's MSRP on Tracks is 8,100jpy (US$68). I don't know where you're getting the idea that the MSRP would be anything close to US$50. Yes, some stores DO sell for that low on *retail* MPs (you can pre-order Tracks for under US$48 right now), but that's because they sell in bulk enough to still make a profit selling just above the wholesale price.
Now, when it comes to importers like TFSource or BBTS there's a couple reason why they always sell above the Japanese MSRP. First they have to go through a third party since they can't get accounts with Takara Tomy like they do with Hasbro. Those third parties need to make a profit, too, so there's a markup there. Then there's the overseas shipping by freighter ship, another markup (even more so if shipped by air which you'll see a higher price on). And of course the retailer is going to need to make a profit as well so you get a third markup. That's how you go from a figure (let's use Tracks as an example again) that has a Japanese wholesale price somewhere under US$48 and end up at a price of US$79.99. But as I said before, that's not possible with Bluestreak so who knows how they managed this. It's entirely possible they're selling this at cost this time, but that seem a little foolish.
Emerje
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If American based imports sites were able to sell MP TF Sideswipe for the pre order price of $64. Their is no reason why the $79.99 price hike makes any sense for MP Wheeljack and MP Tracks. It makes no sense as the Yen is weaker than the Dollar this year. Compared to the Yen being stronger thn the Dollar years ago when MP TF Sideswipe was released. Don't see any better toy tech in Takara's MP Wheeljack and MP Tracks compared to MP TF Sideswipe to justify the price hike.
Don't think these MP TF Voyager cars bots toys are worth paying $80 for. Not when Takara is selling them to distributors for under $50 each. $79.99 plus $8 in shippig fees equals almost $90 from USA sites. Or paying $59.99 from overseas sites with $20 in shipping fees equals $79.99.
That's why I'm buying the high quality KO MP TF toys versions for under $37 with shipping fees included. Already bought KO MP G-2 Sideswipe. Will buy KO MP Wheeljack when it's available in May. If they make a KO MP TF Bumblebee and MP KO Tracks i'll buy them also.
Comment by Tsutsukakushi
Mar 28, 2015
Emerje wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:Emerje wrote:He's back up for pre-order at BBTS. I wonder how they managed to get more? I'm also still trying figure out how they're only $79.99, they can't be making much of any profit off that price.
Emerje
Some overseas sites like Chimungmung.com. Are only charging $59.99 when these MP TF Takara toys are first released. Speculate Takara charges Distributors the MSRP price of $50 to $55 for these toys.
Think charging $79.99, which is $20 to $30 more than the Takara MSRP is not a deal it's the opposite.
I have no idea what you're talking about and neither do you. This isn't a retail figures, it's a store exclusive. The MSRP is 7,992jpy (US$67) for everyone. Period. It even says in the fine print to refrain from placing large orders for resale, they have the right to cancel those orders. By comparison Takara's MSRP on Tracks is 8,100jpy (US$68). I don't know where you're getting the idea that the MSRP would be anything close to US$50. Yes, some stores DO sell for that low on *retail* MPs (you can pre-order Tracks for under US$48 right now), but that's because they sell in bulk enough to still make a profit selling just above the wholesale price.
Now, when it comes to importers like TFSource or BBTS there's a couple reason why they always sell above the Japanese MSRP. First they have to go through a third party since they can't get accounts with Takara Tomy like they do with Hasbro. Those third parties need to make a profit, too, so there's a markup there. Then there's the overseas shipping by freighter ship, another markup (even more so if shipped by air which you'll see a higher price on). And of course the retailer is going to need to make a profit as well so you get a third markup. That's how you go from a figure (let's use Tracks as an example again) that has a Japanese wholesale price somewhere under US$48 and end up at a price of US$79.99. But as I said before, that's not possible with Bluestreak so who knows how they managed this. It's entirely possible they're selling this at cost this time, but that seem a little foolish.
Emerje
If American based imports sites were able to sell MP TF Sideswipe for the pre order price of $64. Their is no reason why the $79.99 price hike makes any sense for MP Wheeljack and MP Tracks. It makes no sense as the Yen is weaker than the Dollar this year. Compared to the Yen being stronger thn the Dollar years ago when MP TF Sideswipe was released. Don't see any better toy tech in Takara's MP Wheeljack and MP Tracks compared to MP TF Sideswipe to justify the price hike.
Don't think these MP TF Voyager cars bots toys are worth paying $80 for. Not when Takara is selling them to distributors for under $50 each. $79.99 plus $8 in shippig fees equals almost $90 from USA sites. Or paying $59.99 from overseas sites with $20 in shipping fees equals $79.99.
That's why I'm buying the high quality KO MP TF toys versions for under $37 with shipping fees included. Already bought KO MP G-2 Sideswipe. Will buy KO MP Wheeljack when it's available in May. If they make a KO MP TF Bumblebee and MP KO Tracks i'll buy them also.
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I'd rather look at my collection and know they were the real deal. I'd also rather support a genuine, creative business rather than people who make their money by stealing other people's work.
I think any price increase is probably due to this being a limited release.
Comment by Ravage XK
Mar 28, 2015
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
That's why I'm buying the high quality KO MP TF toys versions for under $37 with shipping fees included. Already bought KO MP G-2 Sideswipe. Will buy KO MP Wheeljack when it's available in May. If they make a KO MP TF Bumblebee and MP KO Tracks i'll buy them also.
I'd rather look at my collection and know they were the real deal. I'd also rather support a genuine, creative business rather than people who make their money by stealing other people's work.
I think any price increase is probably due to this being a limited release.
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Comment by huryochagi
Mar 28, 2015
Pre-ordering isn't lowering the price or making it arrive sooner. That's why I always wait for it to be in stock. Often, the price may even go down a bit when it's in stock everywhere.
This Diaclone version looks great. Hopefully, they'll release a Diaclone G1 reissue some day.
This Diaclone version looks great. Hopefully, they'll release a Diaclone G1 reissue some day.
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Comment by huryochagi
Mar 28, 2015
Pre-ordering isn't lowering the price or making it arrive sooner. That's why I always wait for it to be in stock. Often, the price may even go down a bit when it's in stock everywhere.
This Diaclone version looks great. Hopefully, they'll release a Diaclone G1 reissue some day.
This Diaclone version looks great. Hopefully, they'll release a Diaclone G1 reissue some day.
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Totally agree with this.
Also, Tigertrack was an exclusive as well, and I got that at regular MP price. I can't imagine that someone is passing things on at cost. It just means the actual cost to distributors is lower than you think. No one is going to sell you something out of the goodness of their heart.
Comment by Desslok2201
Mar 28, 2015
Ravage XK wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:
That's why I'm buying the high quality KO MP TF toys versions for under $37 with shipping fees included. Already bought KO MP G-2 Sideswipe. Will buy KO MP Wheeljack when it's available in May. If they make a KO MP TF Bumblebee and MP KO Tracks i'll buy them also.
I'd rather look at my collection and know they were the real deal. I'd also rather support a genuine, creative business rather than people who make their money by stealing other people's work.
I think any price increase is probably due to this being a limited release.
Totally agree with this.
Also, Tigertrack was an exclusive as well, and I got that at regular MP price. I can't imagine that someone is passing things on at cost. It just means the actual cost to distributors is lower than you think. No one is going to sell you something out of the goodness of their heart.
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Comment by shajaki
Mar 28, 2015
I knoooowwww.... as awesome as this is, doesn't it just make you cry for an E-Hobby (or something) G1 reissue BLUEstreak?huryochagi wrote:Pre-ordering isn't lowering the price or making it arrive sooner. That's why I always wait for it to be in stock. Often, the price may even go down a bit when it's in stock everywhere.
This Diaclone version looks great. Hopefully, they'll release a Diaclone G1 reissue some day.
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Sure they will...
... for a profit!
Comment by Cobotron
Mar 28, 2015
Desslok2201 wrote: No one is going to sell you something out of the goodness of their heart.
Sure they will...
... for a profit!
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Of course it makes sense. The MSRP on Sideswipe was only 5,800jpy, but the exchange rate then put him at US$73.50. I'd like to know what America-based importer you got Sideswipe for US$64 from because BBTS was selling them for US$83.99 claiming he was worth US$95.99, while TFSource was US$79.99 calling it a markdown from US$89.99. The yen may be weaker now, but the MSRP has been going up steadily. Now Wheeljack has an MSRP of 6,500jpy and Tracks has an MSRP of 7,500jpy. I've already explained why these importers price things the way they do, I'm not going to go over that again. Part of the reason why they're raising the prices is because of what they're putting in the boxes. Wheeljack you can say is typical gradual price hikes, but Tracks Tracks includes mini figures of Raoul and Blaster plus the huge flight stand.
I agree, they aren't worth US$80, that's why I paid US$55 including shipping to get Wheeljack from HLJ. Importers should be a last resort, exporters should be the norm.
Your loss. You aren't impressing anyone by bragging about that. High quality garbage is still garbage.
You're taking an awfully big chance by waiting. For exporters the pre-orders often are gone within a day of listing, usually even within hours. For exporters they seem to sell out pretty quickly after coming into stock if they get that far. Better to lock in the best price you can, when you can.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Mar 30, 2015
Tsutsukakushi wrote:If American based imports sites were able to sell MP TF Sideswipe for the pre order price of $64. Their is no reason why the $79.99 price hike makes any sense for MP Wheeljack and MP Tracks. It makes no sense as the Yen is weaker than the Dollar this year. Compared to the Yen being stronger thn the Dollar years ago when MP TF Sideswipe was released. Don't see any better toy tech in Takara's MP Wheeljack and MP Tracks compared to MP TF Sideswipe to justify the price hike.
Of course it makes sense. The MSRP on Sideswipe was only 5,800jpy, but the exchange rate then put him at US$73.50. I'd like to know what America-based importer you got Sideswipe for US$64 from because BBTS was selling them for US$83.99 claiming he was worth US$95.99, while TFSource was US$79.99 calling it a markdown from US$89.99. The yen may be weaker now, but the MSRP has been going up steadily. Now Wheeljack has an MSRP of 6,500jpy and Tracks has an MSRP of 7,500jpy. I've already explained why these importers price things the way they do, I'm not going to go over that again. Part of the reason why they're raising the prices is because of what they're putting in the boxes. Wheeljack you can say is typical gradual price hikes, but Tracks Tracks includes mini figures of Raoul and Blaster plus the huge flight stand.
Don't think these MP TF Voyager cars bots toys are worth paying $80 for. Not when Takara is selling them to distributors for under $50 each. $79.99 plus $8 in shippig fees equals almost $90 from USA sites. Or paying $59.99 from overseas sites with $20 in shipping fees equals $79.99.
I agree, they aren't worth US$80, that's why I paid US$55 including shipping to get Wheeljack from HLJ. Importers should be a last resort, exporters should be the norm.
That's why I'm buying the high quality KO MP TF toys versions for under $37 with shipping fees included. Already bought KO MP G-2 Sideswipe. Will buy KO MP Wheeljack when it's available in May. If they make a KO MP TF Bumblebee and MP KO Tracks i'll buy them also.
Your loss. You aren't impressing anyone by bragging about that. High quality garbage is still garbage.
huryochagi wrote:Pre-ordering isn't lowering the price or making it arrive sooner. That's why I always wait for it to be in stock. Often, the price may even go down a bit when it's in stock everywhere.
You're taking an awfully big chance by waiting. For exporters the pre-orders often are gone within a day of listing, usually even within hours. For exporters they seem to sell out pretty quickly after coming into stock if they get that far. Better to lock in the best price you can, when you can.
Emerje
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You make a good point Emerje. A KO is a still a KO. KOs of Masterpiece figures devalue the whole market. Even KOs of 25 year old toys are the bane of many collectors. Primus fobid you are the one who pays a premium price for a figure you thought was real but turned out to be a KO.
Again good point. I would much rather buy imports direct from japan, but they can sell out fast. Sometimes you can luck out and grab one when they arive in stock if someone cancels a preorder, but there is no garantee. There is also a limited run of 2000 units. So I think this is a case of grab it before the sclpers do.
Comment by redoutlander
Mar 31, 2015
Emerje wrote:Don't think these MP TF Voyager cars bots toys are worth paying $80 for. Not when Takara is selling them to distributors for under $50 each. $79.99 plus $8 in shippig fees equals almost $90 from USA sites. Or paying $59.99 from overseas sites with $20 in shipping fees equals $79.99.
I agree, they aren't worth US$80, that's why I paid US$55 including shipping to get Wheeljack from HLJ. Importers should be a last resort, exporters should be the norm.That's why I'm buying the high quality KO MP TF toys versions for under $37 with shipping fees included. Already bought KO MP G-2 Sideswipe. Will buy KO MP Wheeljack when it's available in May. If they make a KO MP TF Bumblebee and MP KO Tracks i'll buy them also.
Your loss. You aren't impressing anyone by bragging about that. High quality garbage is still garbage.
You make a good point Emerje. A KO is a still a KO. KOs of Masterpiece figures devalue the whole market. Even KOs of 25 year old toys are the bane of many collectors. Primus fobid you are the one who pays a premium price for a figure you thought was real but turned out to be a KO.
huryochagi wrote:Pre-ordering isn't lowering the price or making it arrive sooner. That's why I always wait for it to be in stock. Often, the price may even go down a bit when it's in stock everywhere.
You're taking an awfully big chance by waiting. For exporters the pre-orders often are gone within a day of listing, usually even within hours. For exporters they seem to sell out pretty quickly after coming into stock if they get that far. Better to lock in the best price you can, when you can.
Emerje
Again good point. I would much rather buy imports direct from japan, but they can sell out fast. Sometimes you can luck out and grab one when they arive in stock if someone cancels a preorder, but there is no garantee. There is also a limited run of 2000 units. So I think this is a case of grab it before the sclpers do.
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Comment by Musha
Apr 2, 2015
I have a question, but first let me apologize to all the true geeks. Please dont flame me as Im still in training and I do have some memory loss. Bluestreak, Streak and Silverstreak. I know they are diaclones, however which were present in the 80's G1 cartoon?I honestly cant remember. This is pre G1 movie!
