Titans Return Broadside Found in US, TFSource ande Aj's Toy Chest Pre-Orders Active

Cobotron wrote:Then just drop it Deadput. Bringing it up again/or responding to it only leads to potential derailment.

Things wouldn't happen if they were not brought up in the first place just saying.

Yeah yeah I'll drop it just wanted to mention that.

Deadput wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Then just drop it Deadput. Bringing it up again/or responding to it only leads to potential derailment.

Things wouldn't happen if they were not brought up in the first place just saying.

Or if people recognized that a joke is just a joke, just saying.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote: we can now confirm that Broadside has made it to the US!

SO I guess you could say, Broadside has made it Stateside!

I'll let myself out thanks.

Anyway...

Much as I like to rag on Quickswitch, how are the people who have him finding him in a vacuum? Like, ignoring that he doesn't look anything like Quickswitch and ignoring that Quickswitch himself is a beyond-niche character. Do the colours work for the mold and look good on it? How are his joints compared to Sixshot? Does the face look good? Is he better than Sixshot in general, ignoring all character attachment?

Kurona wrote:Anyway...

Much as I like to rag on Quickswitch, how are the people who have him finding him in a vacuum? Like, ignoring that he doesn't look anything like Quickswitch and ignoring that Quickswitch himself is a beyond-niche character. Do the colours work for the mold and look good on it? How are his joints compared to Sixshot? Does the face look good? Is he better than Sixshot in general, ignoring all character attachment?

I have both and have no attachment to either character or the original G1 toys. I do generally prefer Decepticons, so that's pretty close to a vacuum. The colors really do work and they painted a few areas like one of the cockpits a little different on Greatshot (better) than Sixshot. I do like Sixshot's facesculpt better but Greatshot's colors better. They are pretty much tied in my book.

The amusing thing here is that some of the characters that are known who are Non cartoon G1 characters owe that to the UK comic - and a great many people would only have had access to that material later once they began reprinting them. and in some cases some of it the vast majority likely have not read at all for example the UK G2 comic that had the Decepticon Stormtroopers in it.

I don't mind getting Japanese characters as they are 1st a form of G1 homage so it's a way of filling in some gaps for me they function like the commemorative series / G1 reissue newbies like Loudpedal, Crosscut, Deep Cover, Clampdown, Hauler, Sunstorm, Detritus or Road Rage.

It's also the same sort of idea to me as taking Micromasters or Action Masters and giving them updated bodies. like with Big Daddy or Treadshot.

Making a modern version of Greatshot or Six Knight isn't any different to me than it is making Swerve or Tailgate... they also didn't appear in a Western cartoon and only gained significance due to later fictional appearances.

Though I do wish they'd get around to Elita-1's team updates a bit more regularly than has happened so far.

RAR wrote:Making a modern version of Greatshot or Six Knight isn't any different to me than it is making Swerve or Tailgate... they also didn't appear in a Western cartoon and only gained significance due to later fictional appearances.

Swerve and Tailgate fought Trypticon in this cartoon battle.

Note: This video is in Japanese only because there's no English version of this fight on YouTube anymore. Otherwise, this episode is definitely from the American G1 cartoon, being the Season 3 ep "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5".

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Anyway...

Much as I like to rag on Quickswitch, how are the people who have him finding him in a vacuum?

I have both and have no attachment to either character or the original G1 toys. I do generally prefer Decepticons, so that's pretty close to a vacuum. The colors really do work and they painted a few areas like one of the cockpits a little different on Greatshot (better) than Sixshot. I do like Sixshot's facesculpt better but Greatshot's colors better. They are pretty much tied in my book.

I agree with much of what Kev says here, but I have some additional flavor to add.

You know how Armada has just a ton of G1 characters used as background filler, but they're in oddball color schemes and sometimes have weird extra parts or faces? This Quiclswitch is like that. It's like having a toy of a random Armada background character that was based off Six Shot.

I shall name him Six Switch and when in wolf mode he's a good boy.

Kurona wrote:Much as I like to rag on Quickswitch, how are the people who have him finding him in a vacuum? Like, ignoring that he doesn't look anything like Quickswitch and ignoring that Quickswitch himself is a beyond-niche character. Do the colours work for the mold and look good on it? How are his joints compared to Sixshot? Does the face look good? Is he better than Sixshot in general, ignoring all character attachment?

I do like Quickswitch as a character, but I'll try to be objective. His joints are good (better than my Six Shot, which has a slightly loose shoulder) though his Titan Master fit so well in wolf mode that I had legitimate difficulty removing him (and wound up losing a little paint on his nose). The colours work well in my opinion for 5 of the 6 modes; in truck mode the colours are too scattered. The face sculpt is great, but for me at least the helmet winds up covering the top half of the eyes.

Obviously in terms of mold and size this toy is meant to be Sixshot so I really can't say that this is better in any way, but in the absence of an original sculpt Quickswitch this is pretty much as good as it gets.

Diem wrote: His joints are good (better than my Six Shot, which has a slightly loose shoulder) though his Titan Master fit so well in wolf mode that I had legitimate difficulty removing him (and wound up losing a little paint on his nose).

I've not been a fan of the use of thick, high gloss enamel on this mold, or MP Grapple/Inferno for that matter. It's super extremely chippy, and already so thick that I'm worried a protective top coat might begin to hinder some functions. Or that might be pointless overall as even another layer would just end up increasing friction at the tension points where chips can happen. :/

ScottyP wrote:

Diem wrote: His joints are good (better than my Six Shot, which has a slightly loose shoulder) though his Titan Master fit so well in wolf mode that I had legitimate difficulty removing him (and wound up losing a little paint on his nose).

I've not been a fan of the use of thick, high gloss enamel on this mold, or MP Grapple/Inferno for that matter. It's super extremely chippy, and already so thick that I'm worried a protective top coat might begin to hinder some functions. Or that might be pointless overall as even another layer would just end up increasing friction at the tension points where chips can happen. :/

Not that what you're saying doesn't make sense but in this specific case it was definitely down to how firmly his head was stuck in that mode. I had to use some pretty crazy force to extricate it.

so.. over the weekend my son and I were messing around with the Chaos on Velocitron set. As we were I was explaining to him some of the characters that will be in the next set (Siege on Cybertron). As I started to explain the roster, he was excited for Magnus Prime (aka Super Ginrai), was indifferent about some of the others, but when I mentioned Metalhawk he threw me a side ways glance... since he has seen pics of the original toy, though he's not ever seen it in person, and is familiar with the Masterforce Anime. I explained 1. he's not a Pretender this time, and 2. He's not made out of metal...

to which his reply was...

"Then shouldn't he be called Plastic Hawk?" .... keep in mind he's 11, but this was one of those LOL "out of the mouths of babes" moments that makes being a dad all worth it. I had no comeback for this, so if we eventually do happen to get this set, in our home, he will be officially referred to as Plastic Hawk .

With funds in-hand, I went to TRU today for the Speed pack.

Too late. SAD

My plan to get new leader class figures at my target has paid off, got a case of Sixshot's today at the Target in Oswego, Il

Hellscream9999 wrote:My plan to get new leader class figures at my target has paid off, got a case of Sixshot's today at the Target in Oswego, Il

I also wanted a new leader class figure and Walmart had em:

And Mindwipe still continues to "warm the shelves" I thought he would of been the most popular of the first three headmaster Decepticons.

But I guess not

I went out hunting and got nothing new in stock... Except a brandnew case of the revised Wave 2 Titan Masters with Apeface, Brawn, Nightbeat and Loudmouth. O happy day!

O well, scratched one more Wave 1 figure off my to-get list.

I checked TRU today, but no Velocitron set... yet. They've yet to clear a dedicated space for it, no doubt replacing the now empty Fortress Maximus shelf. In other news: mine apparently has stopped stocking Titan Masters, as they removed that particular price tag.

Also, RiD Skywarp and battlemask Windblade are out int he wild in Texas

Deadput wrote:And Mindwipe still continues to "warm the shelves" I thought he would of been the most popular of the first three headmaster Decepticons.

But I guess not

But I think this proves he is. They shipped solid cases of him, so it not shelf warming, its just them continously getting cases of just mindwipe (and JUST mindwipe) and them putting it on the shelves. That means he's the only toy they had to sell for months... and he sold. Almost all of them are gone. So yeah, I guess he was popular enough that they sold solid cases of em.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:My plan to get new leader class figures at my target has paid off, got a case of Sixshot's today at the Target in Oswego, Il

I also wanted a new leader class figure and Walmart had em:

Broadside AND Sky Shadow!!

I only checked TRU today ;_;

While Titans Return Sixshot is finally reaching saturation in the US, there is of course no sign of Sky Shadow. So while a big chunk of the fandom waits, I have put together some images we have not seen yet, of how Titans Return Sky Shadow works in base mode connected to other bases in an interconnected city. He actually has 3 connection points, offering different altitudes of connection and the legs offer various possible angles to connect to other bases, as you can see below. You will also find images of how he looks like with different faces on, just for fun.

Enjoy!

bodrock wrote:Broadside AND Sky Shadow!!

I only checked TRU today ;_;

You wouldnt have found them, this was in canada, sorry

God I really want that Sky Shadow. I'm really digging his design, despite him being a Overlord pretool.

How are the stickers on him, by the way? Are they garbage like the TR Megatron stickers?

EmirateXaaron wrote:God I really want that Sky Shadow. I'm really digging his design, despite him being a Overlord pretool.

How are the stickers on him, by the way? Are they garbage like the TR Megatron stickers?

Yes they are. Thankfully there arent that many. Theres just the ones on the wings and the decepticon symbols and the later ones are perfecetly fine. This is easily the best leader of Titans return to date.

And I just love how well that tank rolls. Its a very elegant transformation for his bottom half. Top Half is overly simplified though, too bad.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:My plan to get new leader class figures at my target has paid off, got a case of Sixshot's today at the Target in Oswego, Il

I also wanted a new leader class figure and Walmart had em:

How is it that a single column of a supermarket whose shelves are so bare it wouldn't be out of place in a zombie apocalypse movie is still making me envious compared to what we have in the UK?

william-james88 wrote:Yes they are. Thankfully there arent that many. Theres just the ones on the wings and the decepticon symbols and the later ones are perfecetly fine. This is easily the best leader of Titans return to date.

And I just love how well that tank rolls. Its a very elegant transformation for his bottom half. Top Half is overly simplified though, too bad.

Man, that sucks. I'm glad they're not in abundance like Megatron or the new Laser Prime, but it's still a shame. I wonder what prompted them to use such horrible quality stickers? Other than cost-cutting, of course.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

How is it that a single column of a supermarket whose shelves are so bare it wouldn't be out of place in a zombie apocalypse movie is still making me envious compared to what we have in the UK?

I have realizes that shelves being stocked matters much less than what they are stocked with. The TRU next door to this walmart looked like this:



Now I dont know about you, but I think what Walmart had is way better than what TRU had.

EmirateXaaron wrote:Man, that sucks. I'm glad they're not in abundance like Megatron or the new Laser Prime, but it's still a shame. I wonder what prompted them to use such horrible quality stickers? Other than cost-cutting, of course.

I really think it is just that, cost cutting But hey, thats the way it was in G1 so I hope at least some fans are happy.

william-james88 wrote:

bodrock wrote:Broadside AND Sky Shadow!!

I only checked TRU today ;_;

You wouldnt have found them, this was in canada, sorry

Oh, right, thanks for the clarification, Will -- seeing these pics makes me want Sky Shadow, no doubt.

william-james88 wrote:I really think it is just that, cost cutting But hey, thats the way it was in G1 so I hope at least some fans are happy.

I'd say that the G1 stickers have held up better than these new ones have. Several of the wing stickers on my TR Megs have already peeled pretty badly, and I've only transformed him twice or so. And yet my uncle's Pointblank has stickers that have survived some serious playtesting from him, me, my brothers, and my cousins, not to mention attic storage inbetween.

Although, my Sixshot has held up nicely, despite a good amount of fiddling to get all fo his different modes. Perhaps it's just bad luck with Megatron.

EmirateXaaron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I really think it is just that, cost cutting But hey, thats the way it was in G1 so I hope at least some fans are happy.

I'd say that the G1 stickers have held up better than these new ones have. Several of the wing stickers on my TR Megs have already peeled pretty badly, and I've only transformed him twice or so. And yet my uncle's Pointblank has stickers that have survived some serious playtesting from him, me, my brothers, and my cousins, not to mention attic storage inbetween.

Although, my Sixshot has held up nicely, despite a good amount of fiddling to get all fo his different modes. Perhaps it's just bad luck with Megatron.

I was just being cheeky with mentioning G1. Some of the stickers on my G1 figures are fine but others have peeled off badly. But they are all from different places and aquired in the pat 3 years so I wouldnt know what happened to them.

And yes, Megatron is easily the biggest offender to the sticker issue. I dont mind the rest as much.

@william-james888. There's no need to take a negative at people who prefers G1 transformers. G1 people don't like shitty stickers, for your information

Meanwhile, Blue Bacchus remains alone and unloved.

President-prime wrote:@william-james888. There's no need to take a negative at people who prefers G1 transformers. G1 people don't like **** stickers, for your information

It was a joke, I like G1 too.

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:Making a modern version of Greatshot or Six Knight isn't any different to me than it is making Swerve or Tailgate... they also didn't appear in a Western cartoon and only gained significance due to later fictional appearances.

Swerve and Tailgate fought Trypticon in this cartoon battle.

Note: This video is in Japanese only because there's no English version of this fight on YouTube anymore. Otherwise, this episode is definitely from the American G1 cartoon, being the Season 3 ep "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5".

Ok I stand corrected - I think I'd never seen that episode - I think I didn't manage to wade through all of season 3 so I likely stopped before I got that far (I think I stopped before the ark got destroyed for example) .

But it's interesting to see Pipes, Outback, Swerve, Tailgate in there as I genuinely didn't know that any of them were ever in the western cartoon. I notice Bumblebee has a roof cannon - I am surprised Takara didn't pick up on that as a bonus MP accessory.

I recall Cosmos, Powerglide, & Seaspray being in there so I obviously got that far. I really must finish watch those DVD's one of these days

President-prime wrote:@william-james888. There's no need to take a negative at people who prefers G1 transformers. G1 people don't like **** stickers, for your information

He just said he was joking he is not being negative at all.

Also I don't think you speak for everyone I'm pretty sure there are a few G1 "people" who like stickers.

The G1 stickers that are poorly cut or where the ink rubs off suck. or where they tell you to put them in places they get chewed up by the Transformation - or they just don't fit (like Hotrod) are bad.

But when they don't rub and they have a little cutout to sit into they work perfectly fine.

Oh and as to the durability - I bought a G1 Powerglide at a Carboot sale over the weekend - his stickers are in great condition and I dug him out of biscuit tin full of rusty Hotwheels, Matchbox & Dinky toys.

Oh and I like Soundwave's head on Sky Shadow - that looks nice.

Has anyone found a better fan base mode for Six Shot yet ? something flatter & more ramp friendly perhaps.

I am talking for all G1 people. G1 people don't like "shitty" stickers. No one does. I didn't say G1 people don't like stickers. . Just saying. I'm not offended.

Deadput wrote:

President-prime wrote:@william-james888. There's no need to take a negative at people who prefers G1 transformers. G1 people don't like **** stickers, for your information

He just said he was joking he is not being negative at all.

Also I don't think you speak for everyone I'm pretty sure there are a few G1 "people" who like stickers.

There are good stickers and there are bad scrappy stickers. Whether you are G1 or not, we all hate crappy stickers!

And the ones used on 3x Megs suck. Sixshot's? Well the foil type are kind of a pain to mount and crimp easily, heck, I'll live.

RAR wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

RAR wrote:Making a modern version of Greatshot or Six Knight isn't any different to me than it is making Swerve or Tailgate... they also didn't appear in a Western cartoon and only gained significance due to later fictional appearances.

Swerve and Tailgate fought Trypticon in this cartoon battle.

Note: This video is in Japanese only because there's no English version of this fight on YouTube anymore. Otherwise, this episode is definitely from the American G1 cartoon, being the Season 3 ep "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5".

Ok I stand corrected - I think I'd never seen that episode - I think I didn't manage to wade through all of season 3 so I likely stopped before I got that far (I think I stopped before the ark got destroyed for example) .

But it's interesting to see Pipes, Outback, Swerve, Tailgate in there as I genuinely didn't know that any of them were ever in the western cartoon. I notice Bumblebee has a roof cannon - I am surprised Takara didn't pick up on that as a bonus MP accessory.

I recall Cosmos, Powerglide, & Seaspray being in there so I obviously got that far. I really must finish watch those DVD's one of these days

It was the fifth episode of season 3, so I'm guessing you stopped after Part 4 or so.

Swerve was also briefly seen in one scene of another season 3 episode, "Forever is a Long Time Coming", but sadly there's no clip of that scene available on YouTube that i can find.

Said episode was also Pipes's sole other cartoon appearance. Outback, however, got a few appearances in Part 1 of the aforementioned five-parter, and again in the episode "The Quintesson Journal".

I think what happened it I got as far as season 2 on DVD (not having seen hardly any of season 2 until it was on DVD as it was barely published on VHS) and never even unwrapped season three from it's shrink wrap. and the season 3 eps I have seen were all on VHS releases so I've seen things like Return of Optimus Prime or Call of the Primitives on VHS. So things in parts of the 1st 2 years like Nightbird & Kremzeek were new to me as I missed those episodes until it was on DVD. and boy was that bizarre seeing Kremzeek all that time late for the 1st time.

Anyway I'm pleased and surprised to find out (nearly all) the Minibots featured in the show after all.

Did they skip Hubcap ?
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I wonder if Hasbro is aware how much we dislike there use of substandard sticker stock ?

Has anyone had a word in their ear about it at events ?

I actually don't mind the bonus sticker sheets - but those seem to be decent quality stickers so they are not an issue.

But Megatron for example really just needed some red paint on his wings - that was all. and a tampographed logo on his chest and on his jet nose.

Bought and sold this guy in 24 hours basically to take a "test drive" (and I'm trying to cut down how many TFs I buy --- I don't *need* Shadow, nor do I have a connection to him, and Overlord is coming), and man, he's a fantastic toy. Big, bulky, still posable, and just imposing and fun. Transformation may be relatively simple but it's also satisfying and it's rad just swapping modes.

It's funny, though, looking at these pics, my daughter put a pile of Titan Masters on Blaster's base mode last night for a dance party. I want Max just for base mode for the headmasters.

RAR wrote:I think what happened it I got as far as season 2 on DVD (not having seen hardly any of season 2 until it was on DVD as it was barely published on VHS) and never even unwrapped season three from it's shrink wrap. and the season 3 eps I have seen were all on VHS releases so I've seen things like Return of Optimus Prime or Call of the Primitives on VHS. So things in parts of the 1st 2 years like Nightbird & Kremzeek were new to me as I missed those episodes until it was on DVD. and boy was that bizarre seeing Kremzeek all that time late for the 1st time.

Anyway I'm pleased and surprised to find out (nearly all) the Minibots featured in the show after all.

Did they skip Hubcap ?
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I wonder if Hasbro is aware how much we dislike there use of substandard sticker stock ?

Has anyone had a word in their ear about it at events ?

I actually don't mind the bonus sticker sheets - but those seem to be decent quality stickers so they are not an issue.

But Megatron for example really just needed some red paint on his wings - that was all. and a tampographed logo on his chest and on his jet nose.

I do find it odd that the stickers are only on the Titans Return toys, and not the RiD ones no matter the size. Maybe it's their way of saying: you want G1, we'll give you G1, stickers and all!

Possibly - I think they saw the positive reaction to the give away CW stickers and jumped to the wrong conclusion. As there is not stickers in Wave 1 & 2 so why add them in 3 & 4 ?

RID toys are sometimes missing paint to a horrendous degree - especially some Bumblebees.

Still don't know why your Megatrons are having sticker trouble. Had my figure longer than some of you (since mid December) and I transform it quite often and haven't had any issue with the stickers.

Really can't see the appeal of those 'base modes' all connected. Most of them still just look like mangled mistransformations. Base mode TFs for the large part just don't work for me at all. Would be nice to have an actual dedicated base with actual features kind of like the G1 Ark dioramas and playsets I seen some people make. Or even the old Micromaster bases which were much tidier and without the need for painful looking posing positioning of actual Transformer characters.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RAR wrote:I think what happened it I got as far as season 2 on DVD (not having seen hardly any of season 2 until it was on DVD as it was barely published on VHS) and never even unwrapped season three from it's shrink wrap. and the season 3 eps I have seen were all on VHS releases so I've seen things like Return of Optimus Prime or Call of the Primitives on VHS. So things in parts of the 1st 2 years like Nightbird & Kremzeek were new to me as I missed those episodes until it was on DVD. and boy was that bizarre seeing Kremzeek all that time late for the 1st time.

Anyway I'm pleased and surprised to find out (nearly all) the Minibots featured in the show after all.

Did they skip Hubcap ?
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I wonder if Hasbro is aware how much we dislike there use of substandard sticker stock ?

Has anyone had a word in their ear about it at events ?

I actually don't mind the bonus sticker sheets - but those seem to be decent quality stickers so they are not an issue.

But Megatron for example really just needed some red paint on his wings - that was all. and a tampographed logo on his chest and on his jet nose.

I do find it odd that the stickers are only on the Titans Return toys, and not the RiD ones no matter the size. Maybe it's their way of saying: you want G1, we'll give you G1, stickers and all!

I never understood why Hubcap got the shaft.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I do find it odd that the stickers are only on the Titans Return toys, and not the RiD ones no matter the size. Maybe it's their way of saying: you want G1, we'll give you G1, stickers and all!

Are you really going on the record of saying that the RID line does not use stickers on their toys?

Not gonna like, would kinda like to see how Sky Shadow would look with Takara Soundwave's head in there since the black would match (compared to the blue currently edging through) and the red visor might work better.

RiddlerJ wrote:I never understood why Hubcap got the shaft.

Same reason Topspin and Twintwist were...

Probably just forgotten about and heck two of Hubcap's wave mates Tailgate and Swerve only appeared in one episode without any lines and two others Outback and Pipes only had a couple of episodes in which they were not even major characters.

A similar fate befalls poor Skids.

Googling on the wiki shows me that only Wheelie showed up in the original G1 marvel comics too and it probably has something to do with Wheelie being a movie character the only new Mini-Vehicle with a completely new mold in 1986.

The only Autobots I can think of that never showed up for a good reason were Roadbuster and Whirl due to being toys from a non Takara company also the two probably would of been very toned down in the show anyways since their pretty violent according to their G1 bios.

Kurona wrote:Not gonna like, would kinda like to see how Sky Shadow would look with Takara Soundwave's head in there since the black would match (compared to the blue currently edging through) and the red visor might work better.

I agree with this. I think it'd make for a very interesting looking figure!

TBH, the connect ability of the bases is one of those gimmicks I don't care about, and They all feel awkward when attached to Fort Max.

I know they 'connect', but the way the leader figures connect to the titan 'cities' just looks so.... higgledy-piggledy.