Transformers Collector's Club Shattered Glass Drift Revealed

Requiem Prime wrote:I'm surprised they didn't give him Blurr's guns. I do like the mold, but I cannot stand that gummy sword. The short swords are alright.

Bass X0 wrote:

Requiem Prime wrote:I'm surprised they didn't give him Blurr's guns. I do like the mold, but I cannot stand that gummy sword. The short swords are alright.

Drift comes with Blurr's guns too.

starwarrior1227 wrote:what are petro-rabbits?

UltraPrimal wrote:Wow! You can really tell FunPub isn't even trying anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they lifted that entire bio from some Marvel wiki entry or toy card back bio or something and just went Ctrl+F and replaced "Deadpool" with "Drift".

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

You need to brush up on your kanji a bit. Drift has the kanji for samurai on his doors, SG Drift has the kanji for "eternity" (nagai or tokoshie'ni).

Stryfe Convoy wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

You need to brush up on your kanji a bit. Drift has the kanji for samurai on his doors, SG Drift has the kanji for "eternity" (nagai or tokoshie'ni).

Thanks for clearing that up, even though I thought the original kanji stood for his name, Drift... And no... I know nothing about kanji... so thanks!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

You need to brush up on your kanji a bit. Drift has the kanji for samurai on his doors, SG Drift has the kanji for "eternity" (nagai or tokoshie'ni).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

You need to brush up on your kanji a bit. Drift had the kanji for samurai on his doors, SG Drift had the kanji 永 for "eternity" (nagai or tokoshie'ni). I agree it's close to 氷, which means "ice".

chuckdawg1999 wrote:They said he was supposed to come with Blurr's pistols but I have yet to see one pic with them, more importantly with them in the door holsters.

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

You need to brush up on your kanji a bit. Drift had the kanji for samurai on his doors, SG Drift had the kanji 永 for "eternity" (nagai or tokoshie'ni). I agree it's close to 氷, which means "ice".

UltraPrimal wrote:The whole Shattered Glass universe idea just seems lazy to begin with. But even that idea could have been interesting if executed properly.

Rated X wrote:

UltraPrimal wrote:The whole Shattered Glass universe idea just seems lazy to begin with. But even that idea could have been interesting if executed properly.

I couldnt agree with you more my friend. Ever get the feeling "Shattered Glass" is nothing but a contingency plan for when Funpub cant get permission to use certian molds ? Or for when they are stumped on who the molds they have available could be used for ?

Im not going to get into my opinion on the "alternate universe" concept here, but repainted figures with no re-tool or intention of being a new character seem pretty convenient for Funpub.

But I must admit the colors do look nice. I might buy him, slap on some Decepticon reprolabels and make him a generic Cybertronian for Shockwave's army.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

UltraPrimal wrote:Wow! You can really tell FunPub isn't even trying anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they lifted that entire bio from some Marvel wiki entry or toy card back bio or something and just went Ctrl+F and replaced "Deadpool" with "Drift".

How about actually looking into it?

Rated X wrote:

UltraPrimal wrote:The whole Shattered Glass universe idea just seems lazy to begin with. But even that idea could have been interesting if executed properly.

I couldnt agree with you more my friend. Ever get the feeling "Shattered Glass" is nothing but a contingency plan for when Funpub cant get permission to use certian molds ? Or for when they are stumped on who the molds they have available could be used for ?

Im not going to get into my opinion on the "alternate universe" concept here, but repainted figures with no re-tool or intention of being a new character seem pretty convenient for Funpub.

But I must admit the colors do look nice. I might buy him, slap on some Decepticon reprolabels and make him a generic Cybertronian for Shockwave's army.

Counterpunch wrote:Drift looks great, but in no way should they still be using a theme from a BotCon from three years ago for a figure available to the general public. Why should anyone who didn't hit BotCon 2008 give a damn?

I think that Rated X is correct, they fall back on this theme when nothing else can happen. Unless this year's Botcon theme proves that wrong. We'll see.

RiddlerJ wrote:I don't mind the SG theme because it gives my wallet a rest (Runamuck and Runabout are probably gonna get me at any rate).

Counterpunch wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I don't mind the SG theme because it gives my wallet a rest (Runamuck and Runabout are probably gonna get me at any rate).

Exactly my point though, shouldn't the Fan Club's principle releases be created to appeal in ways that everyone will have a reason or at least a desire to get the figure?

There's about 1100 SG sets out there. For everyone else, I'm not sure why they'd care three years after the fact.

Maybe I'm wrong. I dunno.

gavinfuzzy wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

With the powers of google translate, the writing on his hood "定" pronounced "Jō" means "constant".

Night_Viper wrote:

gavinfuzzy wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

With the powers of google translate, the writing on his hood "定" pronounced "Jō" means "constant".

Some kanji have very fluid definitions. "定" means "constant" and "settle", but can also be expanded from those definitions to mean "decision", which can then be expand a bit more metaphysically to "fate", "destiny" and the most likely definition for Drift, "Doom".

Now, there are other ways to write "Doom" as well, so I have no idea which is more common. But I'd say that "Doom" makes more sense for the character than "constant".

RiddlerJ wrote:I think I'd like to see a Gobots theme from Fanpub.

Wreck-Gar could be Cy-Kill
Drift could be Turbo
Thunderwing could be Leader-1
Warpath could be Destroyer
Grimlock could be Zod
Dinobot could be Scales

Night_Viper wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I think I'd like to see a Gobots theme from Fanpub.

Wreck-Gar could be Cy-Kill
Drift could be Turbo
Thunderwing could be Leader-1
Warpath could be Destroyer
Grimlock could be Zod
Dinobot could be Scales

It could be cool... But as Hasbro doesn't own Gobots, also very tricky. If not flat out impossible.

It's one thing mimicking existing Transformers toys (eHobby Minibots) but quite another to take someone else's characters entirely.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Night_Viper wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I think I'd like to see a Gobots theme from Fanpub.

Wreck-Gar could be Cy-Kill
Drift could be Turbo
Thunderwing could be Leader-1
Warpath could be Destroyer
Grimlock could be Zod
Dinobot could be Scales

It could be cool... But as Hasbro doesn't own Gobots, also very tricky. If not flat out impossible.

It's one thing mimicking existing Transformers toys (eHobby Minibots) but quite another to take someone else's characters entirely.

WRONG. Hasbro does own the Gobots brand after taking over Tonka. They just don't own the molds as they're owned by Bandai. Case in point: Decepticon Fracture was intended to be Crasher, both in name and character, and the numerous homages by name would have been impossible otherwise.

Night_Viper wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Night_Viper wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I think I'd like to see a Gobots theme from Fanpub.

Wreck-Gar could be Cy-Kill
Drift could be Turbo
Thunderwing could be Leader-1
Warpath could be Destroyer
Grimlock could be Zod
Dinobot could be Scales

It could be cool... But as Hasbro doesn't own Gobots, also very tricky. If not flat out impossible.

It's one thing mimicking existing Transformers toys (eHobby Minibots) but quite another to take someone else's characters entirely.

WRONG. Hasbro does own the Gobots brand after taking over Tonka. They just don't own the molds as they're owned by Bandai. Case in point: Decepticon Fracture was intended to be Crasher, both in name and character, and the numerous homages by name would have been impossible otherwise.

Right, Hasbro owns a lot of the Gobots IP. But owning characters and names is one thing. Attempting to recreate the toys they don't own is another. (I misphrased the original post. I meant the characters' designs/toys)

I mean, that's pretty much exactly what the 3rd Party Companies are doing. And Hasbro isn't looking too kindly at that.

ShardFenix wrote:deco would fall more under IP i would think. Besides who wants the original modes? they were low tier transformer wannabes in the 80's Updated molds though wouldbe much appreciated and i dont think would interfere with bandai in anyway.

ShardFenix wrote:deco would fall more under IP i would think. Besides who wants the original modes? they were low tier transformer wannabes in the 80's Updated molds though wouldbe much appreciated and i dont think would interfere with bandai in anyway.

Night_Viper wrote:

ShardFenix wrote:deco would fall more under IP i would think. Besides who wants the original modes? they were low tier transformer wannabes in the 80's Updated molds though wouldbe much appreciated and i dont think would interfere with bandai in anyway.

I think it's very much a mirror of what the 3rd Party Companies are doing. What's the difference between Hercules and say a Hasbro Cykill using Wreckgar?

Hercules uses a mold that Hasbro doesn't own. It uses a name that Hasbro doesn't own. Yet it's clearly meant to be an update of the original Devastator toy. Deco included.

Now Cykill. It would use a mold that Bandai doesn't own. It would use a name that Bandai doesn't own. Yet it would clearly be meant to be the an update of the original Cykill toy. Deco included.

If Hasbro is pissed that the first one is happening, why would they allow to second to happen?

Like I said, something like the eHobby Minibots, no problem. But make an entire set of toys meant as updates to toys that they don't own? That's a bit iffy.

Frankly...I'd kinda like more stuff like the eHobby figures anyway. There's no shortage of Diaclone, Microchange and other decoes that never made it as Transformers. So a red Hoist as Scratch, a black Ironhide as Van Guard... I think that would be a lot more fun!

ShardFenix wrote:I'm with Jelze because thats my opinion worded far more eloquently than i could manage. Also is Hasbro really that pissed about 3rd party toys? I haven't haerd about any lawsuits they have filed, or cease and desist orders, or even seen the try to create their own versions of the 3rd party figures...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Night_Viper wrote:

gavinfuzzy wrote:

Diem wrote:Originally he had the Kanji for "Ice" on his doors but now it's a new Kanji that looks familiar but that I can't quite place. Does anyone know what it is?

With the powers of google translate, the writing on his hood "定" pronounced "Jō" means "constant".

Some kanji have very fluid definitions. "定" means "constant" and "settle", but can also be expanded from those definitions to mean "decision", which can then be expand a bit more metaphysically to "fate", "destiny" and the most likely definition for Drift, "Doom".

Now, there are other ways to write "Doom" as well, so I have no idea which is more common. But I'd say that "Doom" makes more sense for the character than "constant".

Gotta love Chinese characters and Japanese Kanji. I do commend FP for using stuff that makes us fans think and feel smart, or at least doing their homework with stuff not many people know about. Petro-Rabbits come to mind

May I add Kanji isn't my strong suit?

gavinfuzzy wrote:Im Chinese and I fail at it! Quite literally

Counterpunch wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I don't mind the SG theme because it gives my wallet a rest (Runamuck and Runabout are probably gonna get me at any rate).

Exactly my point though, shouldn't the Fan Club's principle releases be created to appeal in ways that everyone will have a reason or at least a desire to get the figure?

There's about 1100 SG sets out there. For everyone else, I'm not sure why they'd care three years after the fact.

Maybe I'm wrong. I dunno.

ShardFenix wrote:that was the last thing i heard as well Cannon. Which is why im questiong this idea of hasbro hating on the 3rd partiers. I mean the TFC Devastator may be pushing the bounds of exceptable price to hasbro but they arent saying anything. And yes i do think ~$600 is a bit much haha.