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Transformers Kingdom Shadow Panther and Waspinator found at US Retail
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Sep 14, 2021 at 2:36pm CDT
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The good news here is that finding this Q4 product on the shelves means that Hasbro did secure enough shipping contracts to keep stocking shelves (or else you simply would not have seen these).
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There's a website called Toy Snowman. They had a news alert about it here a few days ago. Be warned, if you live in the US, you'll pay a LOT more for it.
Comment by Lore Keeper
Sep 14, 2021
o.supreme wrote:Apparently wave 4 deluxes have now been spotted at U.S. retail (personally I haven't even seen wave 3 at stores yet despite getting them online weeks ago)
https://www.allspark.com/us-retail-sigh ... -in-texas/Lore Keeper wrote:Has anybody's Waspinator and Shadow Panther shipped yet? It's been four days now.
??? Where did you pre-order from, there are no sites I am aware of that have official pre-orders available, which is what makes the instore sighting both intriguing, but also frustrating.
There's a website called Toy Snowman. They had a news alert about it here a few days ago. Be warned, if you live in the US, you'll pay a LOT more for it.
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Comment by Autobot_Benz
Sep 14, 2021
Glad they are slowly coming. Whatever gets Tigatron out is all I care about. He is one I can't wait to get.
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I had recommended you cancel, if it's found at some random retailer then we know the north American stock is in. You could still write to them to cancel since it hasn't moved yet.
Comment by william-james88
Sep 14, 2021
Lore Keeper wrote:william-james88 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Has anybody's Waspinator and Sgadow Panther shipped yet? It's been four days now.
My coneheads took a week to ship form them. And now this wave is found in the US.
Yeah, kinda figures that would happen right after I order them from Canada.
I had recommended you cancel, if it's found at some random retailer then we know the north American stock is in. You could still write to them to cancel since it hasn't moved yet.
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Not sure at all if this deluxe case is synced with the rest of the Wave.
Comment by william-james88
Sep 14, 2021
Autobot_Benz wrote:Glad they are slowly coming. Whatever gets Tigatron out is all I care about. He is one I can't wait to get.
Not sure at all if this deluxe case is synced with the rest of the Wave.
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Comment by o.supreme
Sep 14, 2021
ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.
I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.
I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.
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Waspinator hasn't showed up at any of the regular retailers yet except Amazon, and that pre-order apparently sold out months ago.
Tigatron is essentially in the same situation but I did manage to pre-order him on Amazon.
Outside of that, I think I am done with Kingdom figures. And ready to start seeing Legacy start popping up.
Comment by Overcracker
Sep 14, 2021
o.supreme wrote:ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.
I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.
Waspinator hasn't showed up at any of the regular retailers yet except Amazon, and that pre-order apparently sold out months ago.
Tigatron is essentially in the same situation but I did manage to pre-order him on Amazon.
Outside of that, I think I am done with Kingdom figures. And ready to start seeing Legacy start popping up.
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Comment by o.supreme
Sep 14, 2021
I think those wave 4 Amazon pre-order listings are fanmade placeholders more than anything else. I mean I'm still holding on to Slammer until a conventional listing on Amazon or Pulse appears, but I don't think they are guaranteed. They can't even be found using the normal search feature on Amazon.
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They are legit Amazon Listings, just intended to be hidden from regular view. They are basically placeholders. Once they get officially revealed by Hasbro, assuming Hasbro actually reveals them before they ship, the Listing gets updated with all the product info and should become visible under normal search means.
Comment by TF-fan kev777
Sep 14, 2021
o.supreme wrote:I think those wave 4 Amazon pre-order listings are fanmade placeholders more than anything else. I mean I'm still holding on to Slammer until a conventional listing on Amazon or Pulse appears, but I don't think they are guaranteed. They can't even be found using the normal search feature on Amazon.
They are legit Amazon Listings, just intended to be hidden from regular view. They are basically placeholders. Once they get officially revealed by Hasbro, assuming Hasbro actually reveals them before they ship, the Listing gets updated with all the product info and should become visible under normal search means.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Sep 14, 2021
Sonnava... My local area never got Wave 3, now we're skipping to Wave 4?! Ugh, this is Titans Return Wave 5 all over again. 
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Honestly, there's no rhyme and reason to it anymore. Like yes, ever since the pandemic got a good foothold, Hasbro has tied reveals with preorders and maybe they are not revealing later waves because they are unsure about guaranteeing a date with the supply chain being tangled. BUT on the other hand, they did set up preorders for some SS86 toys that aren't even manufactured yet (while we know these are). So that makes no sense. They must be sure as hell that production will be possible on all they set forth to allow such preorders.
To me, the most baffling moment of this year is when there was the wave of Studio Series toys that only half got revealed, so you could preorder the entire wave, but half the wave was TBD. At that point I really felt Hasbro had just lost it. And whatever they lost, they haven't found it.
Anyways, I guess we are all just back to where we were years ago, seeing new toys at retail and buying them.
My local area didn't get wave 1. Just wave 2. That's all there's ever been. So much Huffer.
Anyways, I don't care about this wave of deluxes, not interested in either of those 2 beaats.
Comment by william-james88
Sep 14, 2021
o.supreme wrote:ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.
I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.
Honestly, there's no rhyme and reason to it anymore. Like yes, ever since the pandemic got a good foothold, Hasbro has tied reveals with preorders and maybe they are not revealing later waves because they are unsure about guaranteeing a date with the supply chain being tangled. BUT on the other hand, they did set up preorders for some SS86 toys that aren't even manufactured yet (while we know these are). So that makes no sense. They must be sure as hell that production will be possible on all they set forth to allow such preorders.
To me, the most baffling moment of this year is when there was the wave of Studio Series toys that only half got revealed, so you could preorder the entire wave, but half the wave was TBD. At that point I really felt Hasbro had just lost it. And whatever they lost, they haven't found it.
Anyways, I guess we are all just back to where we were years ago, seeing new toys at retail and buying them.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sonnava... My local area never got Wave 3, now we're skipping to Wave 4?! Ugh, this is Titans Return Wave 5 all over again.
My local area didn't get wave 1. Just wave 2. That's all there's ever been. So much Huffer.
Anyways, I don't care about this wave of deluxes, not interested in either of those 2 beaats.
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Comment by First-Aid
Sep 14, 2021
Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...
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Why not just buy them all from BBTS?
Comment by william-james88
Sep 15, 2021
First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...
Why not just buy them all from BBTS?
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I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.
Comment by First-Aid
Sep 15, 2021
william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...
Why not just buy them all from BBTS?
I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.
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Not to turn the knife into the wound, but I do hope that decree was worth the money.
(I'm so glad that I'm in Canada because my college mistake only cost me 8000$CAN in the end.)
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Sep 15, 2021
First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...
Why not just buy them all from BBTS?
I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.
Not to turn the knife into the wound, but I do hope that decree was worth the money.
(I'm so glad that I'm in Canada because my college mistake only cost me 8000$CAN in the end.)
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Its a Master's degree, allowing me to be a nurse practitioner. So pretty good degree.
Comment by First-Aid
Sep 15, 2021
-Kanrabat- wrote:First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...
Why not just buy them all from BBTS?
I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.
Not to turn the knife into the wound, but I do hope that decree was worth the money.
(I'm so glad that I'm in Canada because my college mistake only cost me 8000$CAN in the end.)
Its a Master's degree, allowing me to be a nurse practitioner. So pretty good degree.
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That is a pretty good degree. Thanks for being a hero in these times.
How much are kingdom deluxes at Walmart these days?
Comment by william-james88
Sep 15, 2021
First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Still waiting for wave 2 deluxes...
Why not just buy them all from BBTS?
I'm cheap and have over $100k in student loans to pay back. I need every penny.
Not to turn the knife into the wound, but I do hope that decree was worth the money.
(I'm so glad that I'm in Canada because my college mistake only cost me 8000$CAN in the end.)
Its a Master's degree, allowing me to be a nurse practitioner. So pretty good degree.
That is a pretty good degree. Thanks for being a hero in these times.
How much are kingdom deluxes at Walmart these days?
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It is odd. The Walmart Website says they are $22.99 MSRP, but on the actual pegs in the stores (in my area at least), they are just under $20 USD (19.87 or some odd price). I noticed while going on vacation, depending on location they can vary +/- a dollar depending on the region. SS Deluxe usually run about a dollar less for some reason.
Walmart (like amazon) allows 3rd party sellers. Just at a cursory glance online, I currently see:
Airrazor $19.91
Ractonite $15.40
Huffer $18.62
Tracks $35.99 (obviously NOT Walmart)
Black Arachnia $19.72
Scorponok $35.99
Arcee $32.85 (???
)
Paleotrex $19.87
Wingfinger $35.99
Kindom Deluxe $19.72 (ooh goody a random listing, you pay this and have no idea which one you are getting...)
Warpath $22.99
So this basically tells me, Wave 1 is more or less standard Price, Wave 2 is on sale, and wave 3 hasn't arrived yet.
BBTS was great in years past, prior to Brand Unification for getting TT Product. Now it's best use is for anyone wanting toys from 1-3 years back that are no longer on the shelves, and availability is limited. This is just in relation to Transformers however. I know they stock hundreds of different brands, as do most online retailers, and there are probably some where BBTS may be the best and/or ONLY option.
Comment by o.supreme
Sep 15, 2021
william-james88 wrote:How much are kingdom deluxes at Walmart these days?
It is odd. The Walmart Website says they are $22.99 MSRP, but on the actual pegs in the stores (in my area at least), they are just under $20 USD (19.87 or some odd price). I noticed while going on vacation, depending on location they can vary +/- a dollar depending on the region. SS Deluxe usually run about a dollar less for some reason.
Walmart (like amazon) allows 3rd party sellers. Just at a cursory glance online, I currently see:
Airrazor $19.91
Ractonite $15.40
Huffer $18.62
Tracks $35.99 (obviously NOT Walmart)
Black Arachnia $19.72
Scorponok $35.99
Arcee $32.85 (???
)Paleotrex $19.87
Wingfinger $35.99
Kindom Deluxe $19.72 (ooh goody a random listing, you pay this and have no idea which one you are getting...)
Warpath $22.99
So this basically tells me, Wave 1 is more or less standard Price, Wave 2 is on sale, and wave 3 hasn't arrived yet.
BBTS was great in years past, prior to Brand Unification for getting TT Product. Now it's best use is for anyone wanting toys from 1-3 years back that are no longer on the shelves, and availability is limited. This is just in relation to Transformers however. I know they stock hundreds of different brands, as do most online retailers, and there are probably some where BBTS may be the best and/or ONLY option.
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Now wave 4 is starting to pop up at retail, I can see a repeat of what happened with Studio Series Grindor, Thrust, Jolt and ROTF Bumblebee: an awkwardly rushed, no effort reveal post on the official Facebook page, pre-orders only on Hasbro Pulse US (Grindor, Thrust and Jolt are still unavailable on Hasbro Pulse UK), and then they'll just try to move past it. I can't see anything Kingdom related being formally revealed at any upcoming events like PulseCon or Milano Licensing Day, I think the focus will now be exclusively on Victory Saber until A) it's fully funded, or B) the first wave of Legacy is ready to be revealed.
Comment by Munkky
Sep 15, 2021
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:ok, that makes sense. I'm not saying the listing isn't legit. I know it is valid, There have been some smaller sites that get stuff first. I was just thinking more of the larger more mainstream sites that charge regular MSRP don't even have pre-orders yet.
I guess this is the point about "reveals", it's not so much that Hasbro hasn't officially revealed something yet, it is more about having the ability to pre-order it in any conventional means, still doesn't exist yet.
Honestly, there's no rhyme and reason to it anymore. Like yes, ever since the pandemic got a good foothold, Hasbro has tied reveals with preorders and maybe they are not revealing later waves because they are unsure about guaranteeing a date with the supply chain being tangled. BUT on the other hand, they did set up preorders for some SS86 toys that aren't even manufactured yet (while we know these are). So that makes no sense. They must be sure as hell that production will be possible on all they set forth to allow such preorders.
To me, the most baffling moment of this year is when there was the wave of Studio Series toys that only half got revealed, so you could preorder the entire wave, but half the wave was TBD. At that point I really felt Hasbro had just lost it. And whatever they lost, they haven't found it.
Anyways, I guess we are all just back to where we were years ago, seeing new toys at retail and buying them.
Now wave 4 is starting to pop up at retail, I can see a repeat of what happened with Studio Series Grindor, Thrust, Jolt and ROTF Bumblebee: an awkwardly rushed, no effort reveal post on the official Facebook page, pre-orders only on Hasbro Pulse US (Grindor, Thrust and Jolt are still unavailable on Hasbro Pulse UK), and then they'll just try to move past it. I can't see anything Kingdom related being formally revealed at any upcoming events like PulseCon or Milano Licensing Day, I think the focus will now be exclusively on Victory Saber until A) it's fully funded, or B) the first wave of Legacy is ready to be revealed.
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I wouldn't count on any reveal worthwhile form the licensing conventions, since they are business to business. I think the only official reveal we ever got from them was the oversized RID supermode Optimus (the one that you could stick the minicons on). Dont remember anything since.
Comment by william-james88
Sep 15, 2021
Munkky wrote: I can't see anything Kingdom related being formally revealed at any upcoming events like PulseCon or Milano Licensing Day, I think the focus will now be exclusively on Victory Saber until A) it's fully funded, or B) the first wave of Legacy is ready to be revealed.
I wouldn't count on any reveal worthwhile form the licensing conventions, since they are business to business. I think the only official reveal we ever got from them was the oversized RID supermode Optimus (the one that you could stick the minicons on). Dont remember anything since.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Sep 15, 2021
Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, Razorbeast88, has let us know that YouTube Toy Reviewer, Chefatron, has uploaded two new video reviews! The two reviews in question are of Puffer and Road Ranger, a rumoured two pack that was first teased via an Australian Amazon listing. We've already had a look at Puffer, but this is the first time we've seen Road Ranger.
Both of these toys are redco/retools of Transformers Kingdom Huffer (who has a retool in Pipes, who is set to appear still Kingdom). They're also supposedly part of the Golden Disc Kingdom subline, which is where Terrorsaur will join his fellow Predacons.
Puffer
Road Ranger
What do you think of these toys? Do you own the base molds?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Both of these toys are redco/retools of Transformers Kingdom Huffer (who has a retool in Pipes, who is set to appear still Kingdom). They're also supposedly part of the Golden Disc Kingdom subline, which is where Terrorsaur will join his fellow Predacons.
Puffer
Road Ranger
What do you think of these toys? Do you own the base molds?
Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
