Transformers Legacy Evolution Wave 1 Voyagers found at US Retail

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:My nearest Walmart never carried any Commander class toys.

I never, ever saw any Commanders at Walmart too. Just online, my local geek store, and at Toys R Us.

Right now, you can still find Rodimus Prime in TrU's brick and mortar stores on clearance at 84$CAN. Strangely, I never saw Motormaster in a TrU store.

Motormaster sold like crazy in Canada. Looks like people were ok with that $140 price.

Sabrblade wrote:At one Target, I did see empty shelf spots reserved for Motormaster, but they were always empty with no Motormasters on the shelf. And now those spots are gone, too.

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

First-Aid wrote:My WalMarts are still on Wave 1 over Legacy. Thank God for online buying.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

Maybe, but not to this extreme…
Most artwork stays pretty close to the actual figure designs, maybe hiding hollowness/gaps…
But that Leo artwork is a fully organic-looking lion, appearing like something from a movie or tv show…
And in comparison, that figure is nowhere even close.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Wow. The people who buy Leo Prime, expecting the figure to look as fearsome and impressive as the box art, are in for one WHALE of a disappointment...

Isn't that the rule for 99% of the transformers ever released?

Maybe, but not to this extreme…
Most artwork stays pretty close to the actual figure designs, maybe hiding hollowness/gaps…
But that Leo artwork is a fully organic-looking lion, appearing like something from a movie or tv show…
And in comparison, that figure is nowhere even close.

-- "Corporate need you to tell the difference between this picture and this picture:"





-- "They're the same picture."

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:My WalMarts are still on Wave 1 over Legacy. Thank God for online buying.

Same

-Kanrabat- wrote:-- "Corporate need you to tell the difference between this picture and this picture:"





-- "They're the same picture."

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

We had three Stunticons in a wave during Combiner Wars. I understand variety and diversity, but then we end up with situations where a number of people will never have a complete Menasor.

Emerje wrote:Did the people that didn't find Commander Jetfire at Walmart look in the right place? Most sightings came from the car shelves, not the Transformers section. That's where I initially found him, then he got moved to a toy overstock area before going to clearance in the span of two months or so.

Emerje

Till-all-R1 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Did the people that didn't find Commander Jetfire at Walmart look in the right place? Most sightings came from the car shelves, not the Transformers section. That's where I initially found him, then he got moved to a toy overstock area before going to clearance in the span of two months or so.

Emerje

While I wasn't looking for Jetfire, mainly because I didn't know anything about him until it was too late. I stopped playing wild goose hunt for stuff long ago, if I can't find it in a logical location near actual like product then I don't find it. Now I'll look on the overhead above said section as well as the whole AF isle just in case, or even behind other products. But going into the doll section or bike accessories feels like a fools errand and often just a waste of my time. I've rarely ever found what I'm looking for in a completely different section/area. Aside from something that looked discarded on the way to somewhere else.

Also how do you "miss" a Commander Class box? I can understand a DLX or core being lost somewhere out of place but the size box of a CC isn't something you would generally look over and not see. lol

As I've said I haven't seen a CC in a store since 2019 and any time I've ever gone into a Walmart they've had almost zero product for pretty much any product I was looking for, other than core class which doesn't interest me. Maybe it was simply due to the fact someone else was more dialed into shipments and got there before me every time and bought what little they did get in. IDK..

I can understand why some Walmart stores in certain high theft areas would pass on such an expensive item and just not carry it, that might be why some could find him either.

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Till-all-R1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Please don't. I did finally break down and buy from a UK seller because it was the cheapest and I figured if I don't do it now he'll only clime in price. Or I'll have to wait for some variation in a different packaging. Luckily I had some PayPal Money I didn't even know about/forgotten so I figured why not if it's not technically out of pocket.

you gotta do what you gotta do with some Bots and Cosmos is one of those for me.

DeathReviews wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Please don't. I did finally break down and buy from a UK seller because it was the cheapest and I figured if I don't do it now he'll only clime in price. Or I'll have to wait for some variation in a different packaging. Luckily I had some PayPal Money I didn't even know about/forgotten so I figured why not if it's not technically out of pocket.

you gotta do what you gotta do with some Bots and Cosmos is one of those for me.

Well - for my sake, I hope Hasbro repents and does a re-issue, so those of us who aren't willing to pay the Ebay/overseas markup can get this figure.

But on the other hand, that would mean folks like you, who DID pay the scalper prices, would wind up eating the difference. The way it's going, some people are bound to get scroo'd....

ZeroWolf wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote: Need we bring up Velocitron Cosmos again...?

Please don't. I did finally break down and buy from a UK seller because it was the cheapest and I figured if I don't do it now he'll only clime in price. Or I'll have to wait for some variation in a different packaging. Luckily I had some PayPal Money I didn't even know about/forgotten so I figured why not if it's not technically out of pocket.

you gotta do what you gotta do with some Bots and Cosmos is one of those for me.

Well - for my sake, I hope Hasbro repents and does a re-issue, so those of us who aren't willing to pay the Ebay/overseas markup can get this figure.

But on the other hand, that would mean folks like you, who DID pay the scalper prices, would wind up eating the difference. The way it's going, some people are bound to get scroo'd....

Yeah...I think it's the folks expecting a like for like reissue.

sol magnus wrote:Expecting Hasbro to print you some figure on demand just seems unrealistic to me. ...'Hasbro make some Cosmos' cuz I didn't get him' stuff. It ain't gonna happen.

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

We had three Stunticons in a wave during Combiner Wars. I understand variety and diversity, but then we end up with situations where a number of people will never have a complete Menasor.

And a lot of people still didn't get Menasor in CW because their stores skipped Wave 2 and moved onto wave 3. But its also the factors that Till-all-r1 says above me. Basically, if Hasbro could have done an all Stunticon wave...they would have done it. That they didn't is its own proof. This (outside of a boxset) was the only way to handle them at retail.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:It would be pretty unlikely unless it was part of an exclusive subline. Hasbro have made it clear they like some diversity amongst alt modes (hence why the early waves of combiner wars wasn't team specific).

We had three Stunticons in a wave during Combiner Wars. I understand variety and diversity, but then we end up with situations where a number of people will never have a complete Menasor.

And a lot of people still didn't get Menasor in CW because their stores skipped Wave 2 and moved onto wave 3. But its also the factors that Till-all-r1 says above me. Basically, if Hasbro could have done an all Stunticon wave...they would have done it. That they didn't is its own proof. This (outside of a boxset) was the only way to handle them at retail.

No this wasn't the only way, Hasbro could've done better and they didn't. Now you have people looking for Motormasters or Wildriders hoping to see Breakdown sooner than later.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Also how do you "miss" a Commander Class box? I can understand a DLX or core being lost somewhere out of place but the size box of a CC isn't something you would generally look over and not see. lol

o.supreme wrote:

sol magnus wrote:Expecting Hasbro to print you some figure on demand just seems unrealistic to me. ...'Hasbro make some Cosmos' cuz I didn't get him' stuff. It ain't gonna happen.

Maybe not...then again...

I can recall instances where BOTH have occurred. Wave 5 of TR Deluxe (Twin Twist, Misfire, Windblade)was a total miss at US retail (but ended up in some clearance retailers), Hasbro never did right on that. However Wave 2 of PotP (Sludge, Snarl , Moonracer etc...) Hasbro did actually recognize the shortage in a press release and manufactured more (I guess they believed they had enough demand to fulfill another MOQ). Same goes for all the CC and Titan reissues of the past 3 years.

Now... I know for example the Netflix Soundwave is a sore spot with many who never got one. I'm unsure if Walmart will have the same stranglehold on Cosmos that they do on that (unable to be reissued through other retailers...). But if you can justify the price to import one, go for it. Or, at least as has been mentioned, try to network with fans. You wont be able to get it for the same price as you would in store, but many are willing to ship at cost.

I would even contact anyone I see in here complaining about finding him if I found one (since everybody I actually know has one) and send it to them for cost - but there are none to be found - rather than them not get the figure they want to get, because I'm that kind of guy. But I don't get the 'Hasbro make some Cosmos' cuz I didn't get him' stuff. It ain't gonna happen.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Metalhawk and Twincast have listings on BBTS now. No mention of Rewind or any cassette on Twincast's page, but I assume it's because they haven't finalized the pages yet (no mention of accessories either)

Bumblevivisector wrote:I saw just Leo Prime in 2 different Targets yesterday, so apparently every Tarn is selling as soon as he hits the shelf, while Derpy the cross-eyed chimera will be this year's dedicated shelfwarmer.

Still, for me, the most disappointing Lio Convoy toy is the MP, because it didn't come with Artemis as promised; if it had, I'd have bought it. Maybe her exclusion invoked some divine curse that will make all of his subsequent toys letdowns until it's lifted. There's precedent: Ironhide suffered a curse that prevented his ever getting a proper toy for decades, even screwing up his Masterpiece, right?

Maybe he'll end up having crossover appeal with Narnia fans who collected toys from The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe movie, but were disappointed Aslan didn't stick to the books' coloration.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:I saw just Leo Prime in 2 different Targets yesterday, so apparently every Tarn is selling as soon as he hits the shelf, while Derpy the cross-eyed chimera will be this year's dedicated shelfwarmer.

Still, for me, the most disappointing Lio Convoy toy is the MP, because it didn't come with Artemis as promised; if it had, I'd have bought it. Maybe her exclusion invoked some divine curse that will make all of his subsequent toys letdowns until it's lifted. There's precedent: Ironhide suffered a curse that prevented his ever getting a proper toy for decades, even screwing up his Masterpiece, right?

Maybe he'll end up having crossover appeal with Narnia fans who collected toys from The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe movie, but were disappointed Aslan didn't stick to the books' coloration.

The case is 2 Leo primes and 1 Tarn. So if you only saw 1leo prime at either of those locations, then it sold as well as Tarn.

o.supreme wrote:My Targets are getting Allspark as well, and they are just sitting. Much like Cyberverse before it.

The one thing I thought was crazy was that a few weeks ago, the SS Voyager Ironhide/Galvatron cases were clogging my Target shelves as well. They all finally sold thanks to sales. So I was hoping they'd make room for Legacy Evolution. Nope, they ordered more cases of SS Ironhide and Galvatron

AcademyofDrX wrote:As for Legacy Evolution, didn't someone say they haven't even been coded in Target's system yet? I guess what I'm trying to get to is: be patient, it's still early, we'll see them soon.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:I saw just Leo Prime in 2 different Targets yesterday, so apparently every Tarn is selling as soon as he hits the shelf, while Derpy the cross-eyed chimera will be this year's dedicated shelfwarmer.

Still, for me, the most disappointing Lio Convoy toy is the MP, because it didn't come with Artemis as promised; if it had, I'd have bought it. Maybe her exclusion invoked some divine curse that will make all of his subsequent toys letdowns until it's lifted. There's precedent: Ironhide suffered a curse that prevented his ever getting a proper toy for decades, even screwing up his Masterpiece, right?

Maybe he'll end up having crossover appeal with Narnia fans who collected toys from The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe movie, but were disappointed Aslan didn't stick to the books' coloration.

The case is 2 Leo primes and 1 Tarn. So if you only saw 1leo prime at either of those locations, then it sold as well as Tarn.

Matter of fact, one Target had 2, the other had 1.

More telling, I didn't see any Earthspark yesterday, which all my local Targets did get a few cases of this month. There are still supply chain issues, but IDR the last time toys for a current TF toon got cleaned out that thoroughly that fast after release, leaving the smattering of last year's Legacy and SS offerings to tell the tale.

Plenty of elbow room for those deluxes, and all the Leo Primes looked ready to stretch out, relax, and enjoy the shelf space as long as possible. I might still get him next sale.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I think that we as collectors have unrealistic expectations for how toys are expected to move. Target did their reset what, two weeks ago? I don't think that's unrealistic for a case, and case assortments go months between. This also isn't as time-bound as movie products. Heck, Lightyear merch has been sitting on shelves for the better part of a year!

As for Legacy Evolution, didn't someone say they haven't even been coded in Target's system yet? I guess what I'm trying to get to is: be patient, it's still early, we'll see them soon.

o.supreme wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:I think that we as collectors have unrealistic expectations for how toys are expected to move. Target did their reset what, two weeks ago? I don't think that's unrealistic for a case, and case assortments go months between. This also isn't as time-bound as movie products. Heck, Lightyear merch has been sitting on shelves for the better part of a year!

As for Legacy Evolution, didn't someone say they haven't even been coded in Target's system yet? I guess what I'm trying to get to is: be patient, it's still early, we'll see them soon.

Some Targets still haven't done their reset yet. Some have. I don't see pegs for Legacy Anything at most of them. For me it's not about patience. I'm in no hurry. It's about wanting retailers to do better. I've got everything I want already from Legacy Evolution Wave 1 thanks to Amazon except for Scrapbook. If I see him at retail first, sobe it, and I'll cancel my Amazon pre order. If it ships from Amazon first, oh well, Target loses a sale. As for movie lines like Lightyear and Avatar, those are the biggest wastes of money. I don't expect companies to stop making them, but when even kids don't buy the product and it wastes space until it's clearanced out, you think somebody would catch on.