Transformers Power of the Primes Leader Class Figures Spotted at Canadian Retail
			
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							 Comment by bodrock
							 Dec 22, 2017						
						
						That's just PRIME.  
WANT!!!!
					
WANT!!!!
						
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							 Comment by Regimus Prime
							 Dec 22, 2017						
						
						Can't wait to get my hands on these two. That Rodimus looked awesom on display this year at SDCC.  
					
						
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							 Comment by WreckerJack
							 Dec 22, 2017						
						
						I think I found the perfect Optimus to add to my collection. Looks amazing!
					
						
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							 Comment by Cheetron
							 Dec 22, 2017						
						
						I'd be happy to just see one power of the primes figure at retail. Especially Prime
					
						
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They're coming: Finally seeing Masters, deluxes, and voyagers
					
				
							 Comment by jaws
							 Dec 22, 2017						
						
						Cheetron wrote:I'd be happy to just see one power of the primes figure at retail. Especially Prime
They're coming: Finally seeing Masters, deluxes, and voyagers
						
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							 Comment by Cybertronius Primus
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						The power of the primes legions and masters are finally at UK retail in Forbidden Planet stores!
					
						
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							 Comment by bodrock
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						Here's hoping the Leaders show up this week in the States!
					
						
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The wave 2 figures in package, or is that not how Photoshop works?
					
				
							 Comment by chuckdawg1999
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						King Kuuga wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:Stupid gray circles


Can no one photoshop them out?
I can, but I don't know what you're expecting to see.
The wave 2 figures in package, or is that not how Photoshop works?
						
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							 Comment by bacem
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						There's now an english review for optimus and rodimus, by chefatron.
					
						
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							 Comment by Skritz
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						My local TRU finally had some PotP stuff and only Voyagers. Considering this was the size class there was a massive sale of last week I can only come to the conclusion that the rest of the first wave is collecting dust until these shelves are cleared of all the other stuff. And considering how much of it is self-warming RiD 2015 crap and too many TR deluxes and leaders?
...This will take a while. 
 
In any case, got my hands on the already-infamous Voyager Starscream. He's not as horrible as I expected him to be, even if its true that his stickers are pretty damn fugly. Maybe its because I've never owned a Starscream figure and am just glad I got one in a size class that scale decently with my Megatron (the TR one). Voyager and deluxes, I've come to realize, really are my preferred size classes for Generations as I find it weird when some characters are blatantly larger than characters they shouldn't be. Leader works fine for huge bots like Overlord, Sixshot or Ultra Magnus but personally I find the Deluxe and Voyager to be my sweet spot both in terms of budget and shelf size.
So, back to Starscream: people say he's hideous and all wrong and an abomination. But is he? Well right now I got him in robot mode and he's not exactly the greatest modern Starscream by any stretch of the imagination. Sadly I've never got my hands on the 'Classics Seekers' mold so this Starscream will have to do. If there ever was a figure which I bought and went 'this will need third party stickers' this will be the one. So final verdict? He's not great and will need some fixing but is he atrocious? No, not really. Plus you can give him a literal dickhead, which is funny in a truly immature way.
					...This will take a while.
 
 In any case, got my hands on the already-infamous Voyager Starscream. He's not as horrible as I expected him to be, even if its true that his stickers are pretty damn fugly. Maybe its because I've never owned a Starscream figure and am just glad I got one in a size class that scale decently with my Megatron (the TR one). Voyager and deluxes, I've come to realize, really are my preferred size classes for Generations as I find it weird when some characters are blatantly larger than characters they shouldn't be. Leader works fine for huge bots like Overlord, Sixshot or Ultra Magnus but personally I find the Deluxe and Voyager to be my sweet spot both in terms of budget and shelf size.
So, back to Starscream: people say he's hideous and all wrong and an abomination. But is he? Well right now I got him in robot mode and he's not exactly the greatest modern Starscream by any stretch of the imagination. Sadly I've never got my hands on the 'Classics Seekers' mold so this Starscream will have to do. If there ever was a figure which I bought and went 'this will need third party stickers' this will be the one. So final verdict? He's not great and will need some fixing but is he atrocious? No, not really. Plus you can give him a literal dickhead, which is funny in a truly immature way.

						
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The image has big splotches now, and thats the only image any of us would start with. Photoshop cant remove them.
					
				
							 Comment by william-james88
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						chuckdawg1999 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:Stupid gray circles


Can no one photoshop them out?
I can, but I don't know what you're expecting to see.
The wave 2 figures in package, or is that not how Photoshop works?
The image has big splotches now, and thats the only image any of us would start with. Photoshop cant remove them.
						
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							 Comment by william-james88
							 Dec 23, 2017						
						
						So I got both Leader Prime and Rodimus today. These are not the standouts of the line. Not terrible, but not the standouts due to pretty big flaws in the look of some of their modes. 
They each have good stuff though and its a mixed bag all around. I will say this though, the way they are built, they feel more "toyish" than the previous generations leaders. The plastic is very light. Its not a KO feeling at all, but more of the feeling you get playing with toys made for younger kids, like anything from Imaginext or the Bandai of America Power Rangers Zords. Think of a Batmobile made for a younger audience and its that kind of feel I get. The fact that there is a ton of unpainted plastic adds to that notion too. They dont feel like collectables in any way (unlike, says, Titas Return Sky Shadow). It also doesnt help that the stickers are misaligned.


My main problem with optimus is how Orion pax is very very simple to transform. I think the G1 Optimus Prime toy has more steps. The cab mode is probably the worst we have ever gotten for an Optimus type vehicle, aside from some recent simplified RID toys (then again, its not better than those, probably on par). And there really isnt much to him connecting to his Prime Armour. Orion doesnt really convert much for that. There is nothing for his legs or arms to tab into so you can fold him whichever way you want or leave him be.



The good stuff comes with the trailer transformation. Now that is awesome. It is a really meaty and involved transformation of turning what is essentially a box into practically a full body. The box disapears away and you just use the panels to create different shapes. Orion contributing little to the full body means Optimus is very solid in his evolved form. The only part with isues are the feet. Not only are they quite unnatractive, but they are linked to his legs in an odd way, its not directly to his ankles. There is this extra ligament panel that is not very strong and will fold in different ways withouth you intending it to so the feet can give way and the robot would have problem standing.
Not onto Rodimus. The alt mode is excellent. Especially combined. Its a solid combination too, with several points to attach and there is even a slight transformation to do so it feels like its own mode rather than just the hot rod car mode and the trailer. And really cool exhaust conecting effect.
The Hot Rod robot mode is serviceable but I much preffer the Titans Return one. This one isnt as sleek and uses a fake chest. The worst part though is that the shoulders are limited in movement. I can handle the massive butt flap/kibble but shoulder artiulation is really key for me. The posing is thus quite limited, which isnt helped by the big guns which have a crazy long back section.
The combined mode is where I have most issues with Rodimus. The use of his thighs for shoulder connections looks more off than any image I have seen so far. The back is really a non issue compared to how bad this looks. Plus, it limits the shoulder articulation, here too Also, the arms to tend to get undone and fall off since the thighs are not securely set on Hot Rod.
 Also, the arms to tend to get undone and fall off since the thighs are not securely set on Hot Rod.
So there you go, what one gets right, the other gets wrong.
					They each have good stuff though and its a mixed bag all around. I will say this though, the way they are built, they feel more "toyish" than the previous generations leaders. The plastic is very light. Its not a KO feeling at all, but more of the feeling you get playing with toys made for younger kids, like anything from Imaginext or the Bandai of America Power Rangers Zords. Think of a Batmobile made for a younger audience and its that kind of feel I get. The fact that there is a ton of unpainted plastic adds to that notion too. They dont feel like collectables in any way (unlike, says, Titas Return Sky Shadow). It also doesnt help that the stickers are misaligned.
My main problem with optimus is how Orion pax is very very simple to transform. I think the G1 Optimus Prime toy has more steps. The cab mode is probably the worst we have ever gotten for an Optimus type vehicle, aside from some recent simplified RID toys (then again, its not better than those, probably on par). And there really isnt much to him connecting to his Prime Armour. Orion doesnt really convert much for that. There is nothing for his legs or arms to tab into so you can fold him whichever way you want or leave him be.
The good stuff comes with the trailer transformation. Now that is awesome. It is a really meaty and involved transformation of turning what is essentially a box into practically a full body. The box disapears away and you just use the panels to create different shapes. Orion contributing little to the full body means Optimus is very solid in his evolved form. The only part with isues are the feet. Not only are they quite unnatractive, but they are linked to his legs in an odd way, its not directly to his ankles. There is this extra ligament panel that is not very strong and will fold in different ways withouth you intending it to so the feet can give way and the robot would have problem standing.
Not onto Rodimus. The alt mode is excellent. Especially combined. Its a solid combination too, with several points to attach and there is even a slight transformation to do so it feels like its own mode rather than just the hot rod car mode and the trailer. And really cool exhaust conecting effect.
The Hot Rod robot mode is serviceable but I much preffer the Titans Return one. This one isnt as sleek and uses a fake chest. The worst part though is that the shoulders are limited in movement. I can handle the massive butt flap/kibble but shoulder artiulation is really key for me. The posing is thus quite limited, which isnt helped by the big guns which have a crazy long back section.
The combined mode is where I have most issues with Rodimus. The use of his thighs for shoulder connections looks more off than any image I have seen so far. The back is really a non issue compared to how bad this looks. Plus, it limits the shoulder articulation, here too
 Also, the arms to tend to get undone and fall off since the thighs are not securely set on Hot Rod.
 Also, the arms to tend to get undone and fall off since the thighs are not securely set on Hot Rod.So there you go, what one gets right, the other gets wrong.
						
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							 Comment by bodrock
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						Sounds disappointing, to say the least, Will.  I will set expectations accordingly, but here's hoping they improve the mold for Rodimus Unicronus.....
					
						
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They cant improve the look. Its a simple redeco and everything is done and in boxes waiting to ship out. Nothing is changing now.
					
				
							 Comment by william-james88
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						bodrock wrote:Sounds disappointing, to say the least, Will. I will set expectations accordingly, but here's hoping they improve the mold for Rodimus Unicronus.....
They cant improve the look. Its a simple redeco and everything is done and in boxes waiting to ship out. Nothing is changing now.
						
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I figured as much.....I was hoping a revision might be possible in a later wave, but I highly doubt it. Here's hoping PotP Primal gets it right.
					
				
							 Comment by bodrock
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						william-james88 wrote:bodrock wrote:Sounds disappointing, to say the least, Will. I will set expectations accordingly, but here's hoping they improve the mold for Rodimus Unicronus.....
They cant improve the look. Its a simple redeco and everything is done and in boxes waiting to ship out. Nothing is changing now.
I figured as much.....I was hoping a revision might be possible in a later wave, but I highly doubt it. Here's hoping PotP Primal gets it right.
						
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Photoshop (or Gimp, which I'm using) is not magic, you can't create something from nothing. They have overwritten the original data for the image and it's the only version any of us have. I can erase the circles (like I did before, and did to transparency in this version) but there's nothing underneath. It's not like a painting where a vandalism would go on top of the original artwork, in this case, the original pixels have effectively been replaced. I'm sure a copy exists on someone's hard drive, but we don't have it.
Well I went to a couple TRUs the last few days to try and find the Prime Masters both for myself and as gifts to some of my friends. The first one I went to, yesterday, only had two Cloudbursts, both of which I nabbed. They also had some legends. The other one which I visited today had everything from Prime Masters all the way to Voyagers, although they only had 2 Dreadwinds and a Jazz among the deluxe selection. Anyway, I nabbed 2 each of Skullgrin and Metalhawk and left them with some Cloudbursts, as some sort of apology for taking the ones from the first location (though I think he's my least favorite of the first wave so eh). They're fun little guys. You can't see the Prime Master's eyes peeping out very well on Cloudburst, it's a bit better on Metalhawk, and of course if it weren't for the leg hole you'd barely know if anybody is inside Skullgrin at all. I like how they can hold their little weapons or become targetmasters. Speaking of which, they're a bit bulky as weapons, to the point where some figures will have trouble holding them. The handles aren't super long and the armor's feet can get in the way so if the figure has a thick wrist (like Chromedome) it might have to sit at an angle. It's also fun to use the PMs as heads, most of them look like weird faces so there's some possibilities here for customizers.
And since I have no POTP deluxes yet, I stuck them on a TR deluxe.

Are ya feeling lucky, punk?
					
				
							 Comment by King Kuuga
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						chuckdawg1999 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hotconvoy wrote:Stupid gray circles


Can no one photoshop them out?
I can, but I don't know what you're expecting to see.
The wave 2 figures in package, or is that not how Photoshop works?
Photoshop (or Gimp, which I'm using) is not magic, you can't create something from nothing. They have overwritten the original data for the image and it's the only version any of us have. I can erase the circles (like I did before, and did to transparency in this version) but there's nothing underneath. It's not like a painting where a vandalism would go on top of the original artwork, in this case, the original pixels have effectively been replaced. I'm sure a copy exists on someone's hard drive, but we don't have it.
Well I went to a couple TRUs the last few days to try and find the Prime Masters both for myself and as gifts to some of my friends. The first one I went to, yesterday, only had two Cloudbursts, both of which I nabbed. They also had some legends. The other one which I visited today had everything from Prime Masters all the way to Voyagers, although they only had 2 Dreadwinds and a Jazz among the deluxe selection. Anyway, I nabbed 2 each of Skullgrin and Metalhawk and left them with some Cloudbursts, as some sort of apology for taking the ones from the first location (though I think he's my least favorite of the first wave so eh). They're fun little guys. You can't see the Prime Master's eyes peeping out very well on Cloudburst, it's a bit better on Metalhawk, and of course if it weren't for the leg hole you'd barely know if anybody is inside Skullgrin at all. I like how they can hold their little weapons or become targetmasters. Speaking of which, they're a bit bulky as weapons, to the point where some figures will have trouble holding them. The handles aren't super long and the armor's feet can get in the way so if the figure has a thick wrist (like Chromedome) it might have to sit at an angle. It's also fun to use the PMs as heads, most of them look like weird faces so there's some possibilities here for customizers.
And since I have no POTP deluxes yet, I stuck them on a TR deluxe.

Are ya feeling lucky, punk?
						
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							 Comment by Bronzewolf
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						The first wave of Transformers Power of the Primes has made its way to store shelves recently to much anticipation. The roll-out has been quite a success compared to the well-known flaws in the distribution and execution of the previous two lines, The Last Knight and Titans Return. However, just because it went over smoothly on the whole does not mean that there weren't some strange slip ups in the toyline. One of the most central is the fact that some copies of the Prime Master size class figure Micronus Prime and Vector Prime have shipped with two copies of the actual robot Prime Master itself. The Masters are separate in the package, one in the traditional packing slot for the Prime Masters, and the other already inside the Prime Master Suit/Pretender shells. Here's a stock photo of how these new figures are supposed to be packaged:

Several Seibertronians from across the country and the world have run into this situation, ruling out that this factory error is a one off, or that it's location based in some way. In fact, one of our board members, Agamemnon, even madw a visual guide so you can tell if the copy you're thinking of picking up has two Prime Masters inside. You can find his photos below.

(Empty Shell)

(Full Shell)

(Empty Shell)

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It's unknown how these errors are occuring, but there have been no reports of Micronus or Vector Primes shipping without any Prime Masters at all.
Several Seibertron board members have expressed interest in documenting this strange anomaly, so if you run into any Power of the Primes figure that includes two Prime Masters please leave a comment in the Energon Pub Forums below. There might be some information on your figure that could help us track down exactly what production lot run these errors are coming from!
					
Several Seibertronians from across the country and the world have run into this situation, ruling out that this factory error is a one off, or that it's location based in some way. In fact, one of our board members, Agamemnon, even madw a visual guide so you can tell if the copy you're thinking of picking up has two Prime Masters inside. You can find his photos below.

(Empty Shell)

(Full Shell)

(Empty Shell)

(Full Shell)
The way the Pretender shell should appear in package (well, the most common at this point, I guess) is the face won't be showing. There is also a gap between the legs
It's unknown how these errors are occuring, but there have been no reports of Micronus or Vector Primes shipping without any Prime Masters at all.
Several Seibertron board members have expressed interest in documenting this strange anomaly, so if you run into any Power of the Primes figure that includes two Prime Masters please leave a comment in the Energon Pub Forums below. There might be some information on your figure that could help us track down exactly what production lot run these errors are coming from!
						
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							 Comment by thedistinctroom
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						Reminds me of when I was a kid in '85. My G1 Dirge, Swoop and another I forget now came with 2 sets of instructions, stickers, and tech spec decoders. I was like "Whuuuuutt????".
					
						
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							 Comment by DeathReviews
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						Not only that, but some of the Prime Masters have been packed into the wrong 'boxes'.  The display cards for Vector Prime were on Micronus' figure, and vice-verse, in at least one TRU, according to my minions...
					
						
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You have minions? I want minions!
Anyway, this is something that'll probably never hit me seeing that only deluxes and legends have appeared in my area, and will most likely be fixed by the time they arrive...
					
				
							 Comment by Decepticon Stryker
							 Dec 24, 2017						
						
						DeathReviews wrote:Not only that, but some of the Prime Masters have been packed into the wrong 'boxes'. The display cards for Vector Prime were on Micronus' figure, and vice-verse, in at least one TRU, according to my minions...
You have minions? I want minions!
Anyway, this is something that'll probably never hit me seeing that only deluxes and legends have appeared in my area, and will most likely be fixed by the time they arrive...
 
					 
			 
					
				 
					
				 
					
				 
								 
								 
								 
								 
								 
								
