Transformers' Tuesday- Pulse Live Stream 2025 Product Reveal

Pre-oirders are up on Amazon:
Deluxe Venin (Venom): https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1030-TRA-GEN-Venom/dp/B0DK81NW6C?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=d7c1dc66198c596d8dcf9e5635e34957&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Micronus: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1029-TRA-GEN-MICRONUS/dp/B0DK7Z7R3L?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e0872fcb4b0f5e5ad15da41d3bbc620c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Leader Onyx: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-Prime-LDR-Onyx/dp/B0DK7ZSSRX?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=46d0ca56458c5c02f5c5629814e184fc&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Skydive: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-DLX-Sky-Dive/dp/B0DK7YJCFF?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=a7ddef5b19519ec6de1ac200407f24a8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Fireflight: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1024-TRA-GEN-FIREFLIGHT/dp/B0DK7ZSSRQ?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=c49e3cec77f7c1a46d34f6d75a0918b1&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Voyager Alpha Trion: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-VOY-Alpha-Trion/dp/B0DK7YF7HJ?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=caae4aaca3c6be75fbc948ded8bcda67&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Voyager Flatline: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-TRA-GEN-VOY-Flatline/dp/B0DK7YX9NM?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=ef0c5495cd909a181871a2864bbe4b16&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Wreck 'N Doom 2-pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DK7ZMBB4?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=04a9fa3eb7ed03e32a6186f3bdcae2c8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
SS RoTF 3-pack: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TRA-GEN-Multipack-Rot/dp/B0DK7Y7G6W?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=5150cb83ac58164942015f3b89359117&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

The Revenge of the Fallen set is $10 more at Amazon than anywhere else. I'm sure they'll drop it later.

Emerje

So, for the reveals:

Deluxe:

Skydive: nice jet mode, robot mode is pretty good too. He and the rest of his crew are headed to the Skybound shelf.

Firefly: nice jet, the robot is slightly jank, but same as above.

Venin: he looks cool, I am excited to have all 7 bugs together.

Micronus: I am in love with this one. The exosuit so he can be a minicon but still be a deluxe is wonderful and a great idea. And like they said on the stream, it may be a very valid way to start diving into actual Pretenders! Winner of the deluxes for me.

Voyager:

Alpha Trion: I had every intention on passing on him, TR is still the best A3 to me. But then when they said that all the artifacts will do something cool together once all 13 are united, that made him a need to grab. Dammit.

Flatline: This is an awesome figure, I love it! Flatline is one of those glupshittos that I personally adore, and him finally getting a figure, and a cool one at that, is very satisfying. He is right there with Micronus for hype level.

Leader:

Onyx: Can't say anything I haven't said before, this is my favorite Prime and the one I am most looking forward to, glad I can finally preorder him!

Exclusives:

G2 Dinobots: I sold off my G1 Slug and Snarl, so I am hoping the new G2 colors will make me appreciate them more, I hated both when I owned them before.

Sandstorm/Slugslinger: I am happy with both I have, so I can comfortably pass on them

Overcracker wrote:Pre-oirders are up on Amazon:
Deluxe Venin (Venom): https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1030-TRA-GEN-Venom/dp/B0DK81NW6C?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=d7c1dc66198c596d8dcf9e5635e34957&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Micronus: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1029-TRA-GEN-MICRONUS/dp/B0DK7Z7R3L?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e0872fcb4b0f5e5ad15da41d3bbc620c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Leader Onyx: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-Prime-LDR-Onyx/dp/B0DK7ZSSRX?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=46d0ca56458c5c02f5c5629814e184fc&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Skydive: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-DLX-Sky-Dive/dp/B0DK7YJCFF?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=a7ddef5b19519ec6de1ac200407f24a8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Fireflight: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1024-TRA-GEN-FIREFLIGHT/dp/B0DK7ZSSRQ?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=c49e3cec77f7c1a46d34f6d75a0918b1&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Voyager Alpha Trion: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-VOY-Alpha-Trion/dp/B0DK7YF7HJ?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=caae4aaca3c6be75fbc948ded8bcda67&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Voyager Flatline: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-TRA-GEN-VOY-Flatline/dp/B0DK7YX9NM?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=ef0c5495cd909a181871a2864bbe4b16&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Wreck 'N Doom 2-pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DK7ZMBB4?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=04a9fa3eb7ed03e32a6186f3bdcae2c8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
SS RoTF 3-pack: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TRA-GEN-Multipack-Rot/dp/B0DK7Y7G6W?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=5150cb83ac58164942015f3b89359117&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Thanks, Overcracker!

For whatever reason, when I search, "Transformers Age of the Primes", NONE of these new listings show up.

kuhlio wrote:Here is the video toe the stream:

Noteworthy details from the stream:

Complete Superion is shown off with all four Aerialbot limbs. Mark keeps using the term "Scramble City", saying "you could probably do some Scramble City with the Menasor model", which is a bit confusing since "Scramble City" refers to not just the ability to swap arms with arms and legs with legs, but mainly to the ability to swap arms and legs with each other (which I doubt Superion will be able to do since Menasor couldn't).

Mark considers Venin to be the "true leader" of the Insecticons, not Kickback.

Mark pointedly likens Micronus Prime's exosuit to a Pretender shell play pattern, as if to hint that this figure could be testing the waters for how to bring back proper Pretenders. He also mispronounces "Chimera" as "Chy-mera" rather than "Ky-mera". The exosuit is also built like a Weaponizer, so its limbs can detach to become weapons for other figures to wield. The suit's legs become the unicycle's wheel, and it actually does roll.

The Covenant of Primus that comes with Alpha Trion has actual turning pages with some Cybertronian text printed on them. Alpha Trion's altmode is based on a concept sketch for an altmode that was never used before.

Flatline has a new fist on his left wrist where Red Alert originally had only his arm tool.

When discussing Onyx Prime's Tryptich Mask spear, Mark says that all of the Primes' artifacts have a specific purpose for when all thirteen of the artifacts are brought together.

As expected, the Sandstorm Vs. Slugslinger two-pack is an Amazon exclusive. Nate calls him "Handsome Face Sandstorm". Mark is a fan of Battle Masks, so that's why they did the toy-accurate face first. Sandstorm's colors are more animation accurate. Mark says Slugslinger's colors are meant to be a midway between the cartoon colors from "The Rebirth" and the colors of the Takara version of the toy (presumably the Transformers Legends version that used colors based on The Headmasters cartoon).

When showing off the Selects G2 Dinobots 2-pack, they state outright that the next two G2 Dinobots are coming next year.

The Studio Series Decepticon pack is an Amazon exclusive.

No pipeline or space bridge reveals to close out the stream.

Alpha Trion and Micronus look pretty good (especially the latter). Deadline and Venin aren't too bad either.

I'm exited for the Primes and the 4th bug. Plus, even though Armada Red Alert disappointed me, Flatline look pretty damn cool.

Yes: Flatline (impressed by how different his alt mode deco is, head looks great, can't believe I didn't put together what those pegs on the windshields and ports on the guns are for until now), Venin (that's Venin alright, like that his weapons combine), Onyx Prime (discussed previously), Micronus (transforming Weaponizer mechsuit is awesome, love that he's still actually a Minicon, this is basically the only way they could do the Pretender gimmick that I would actually be on board for)
No: Aerialbots (boring designs, Fireflight would look better with a toy head), Alpha Trion (don't need an A3), G2 Dinobots (just not my thing), Sandstorm/Slugslinger (already got the faceplate Sandstorm I wanted)

Sabrblade wrote:Mark considers Venin to be the "true leader" of the Insecticons, not Kickback.

Wait, when was Kickback ever the leader? I thought the leadership rotated between Venin, Shrapnel, and Bombshell depending on the media.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Mark considers Venin to be the "true leader" of the Insecticons, not Kickback.

Wait, when was Kickback ever the leader? I thought the leadership rotated between Venin, Shrapnel, and Bombshell depending on the media.

He might have gotten mixed up between Shrapnel and Kickback.

Just noticed Venom/Venin was given a cockpit window to match the other releases despite none of them having cockpits before. Great attention to detail. Can't wait to see how they reuse this mold, it's so specific to him in every way.

Emerje

So were the Skydive and Fireflight available on Amazon and already sold out, or that they not activated yet? I suspect sold out, but I also know Amazon can get wonky with the entire wave going live in bits and spurts.

I was able to order them on Amazon.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Pre-oirders are up on Amazon:
Deluxe Venin (Venom): https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1030-TRA-GEN-Venom/dp/B0DK81NW6C?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=d7c1dc66198c596d8dcf9e5635e34957&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Micronus: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1029-TRA-GEN-MICRONUS/dp/B0DK7Z7R3L?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=e0872fcb4b0f5e5ad15da41d3bbc620c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Leader Onyx: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-Prime-LDR-Onyx/dp/B0DK7ZSSRX?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=46d0ca56458c5c02f5c5629814e184fc&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Skydive: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-DLX-Sky-Dive/dp/B0DK7YJCFF?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=a7ddef5b19519ec6de1ac200407f24a8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Deluxe Fireflight: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G1024-TRA-GEN-FIREFLIGHT/dp/B0DK7ZSSRQ?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=c49e3cec77f7c1a46d34f6d75a0918b1&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Voyager Alpha Trion: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-VOY-Alpha-Trion/dp/B0DK7YF7HJ?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=caae4aaca3c6be75fbc948ded8bcda67&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Voyager Flatline: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-TRA-GEN-VOY-Flatline/dp/B0DK7YX9NM?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=ef0c5495cd909a181871a2864bbe4b16&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
Wreck 'N Doom 2-pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DK7ZMBB4?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=04a9fa3eb7ed03e32a6186f3bdcae2c8&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
SS RoTF 3-pack: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-TRA-GEN-Multipack-Rot/dp/B0DK7Y7G6W?tag=seibertron07-20&&linkCode=sl1&linkId=5150cb83ac58164942015f3b89359117&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Thanks, Overcracker!

For whatever reason, when I search, "Transformers Age of the Primes", NONE of these new listings show up.

My pleasure.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So were the Skydive and Fireflight available on Amazon and already sold out, or that they not activated yet? I suspect sold out, but I also know Amazon can get wonky with the entire wave going live in bits and spurts.

Fireflight shows as available for me, but Skydive is unavailable. Pretty sure both were available when I posted the links.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So were the Skydive and Fireflight available on Amazon and already sold out, or that they not activated yet? I suspect sold out, but I also know Amazon can get wonky with the entire wave going live in bits and spurts.

Skydive: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-DLX-Sky-?tag=seibertron07-20& ... s_li_ss_tl
Fireflight: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G10?tag=seibertron07-20& ... s_li_ss_tl

Both are available.

Emerje

Onyx Prime is great, already went on my rant about that one

I really really like Micronus Prime, that's just fun all around

A3 is cool but I'm happy with my Alpha Trion from the set with Orion Pax so I'll pass

Not interested in Superion so glad to pass on aerialbots

I like the face mask Sandstorm better so easy pass on that too

I initially planned on getting Venin but I don't think I like how this turned out. I typically don't care as much about hollow limbs but those forearms are pretty bad

Flatline.... looks pretty cool. But I don't really like the red alert mold. So I'm a little torn on that one.

Dinobots.... idk. I already have the tiger stripe grimlock. These 2 look cool. But then I'd want all 5. And that's expensive

Emerje wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So were the Skydive and Fireflight available on Amazon and already sold out, or that they not activated yet? I suspect sold out, but I also know Amazon can get wonky with the entire wave going live in bits and spurts.

Skydive: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-DLX-Sky-?tag=seibertron07-20& ... s_li_ss_tl
Fireflight: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G10?tag=seibertron07-20& ... s_li_ss_tl

Both are available.

Emerje

Thanks, Amazon being Amazon again. Both were unavailable for me at the time I posted, and was just able to order them now.

I do wonder since Amazon receives full cases of single figures if they open pre-orders for a certain quantity, and then once that initial one sells out the put more into their order from Hasbro and open them up again. The would explain the wonkyness that we see at times.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Mark considers Venin to be the "true leader" of the Insecticons, not Kickback.

Wait, when was Kickback ever the leader? I thought the leadership rotated between Venin, Shrapnel, and Bombshell depending on the media.

He might have gotten mixed up between Shrapnel and Kickback.

On second reflection, this states Kickback as the leader:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So were the Skydive and Fireflight available on Amazon and already sold out, or that they not activated yet? I suspect sold out, but I also know Amazon can get wonky with the entire wave going live in bits and spurts.

Skydive: https://www.amazon.com/TRA-GEN-DLX-Sky-?tag=seibertron07-20& ... s_li_ss_tl
Fireflight: https://www.amazon.com/TRANSFORMERS-G10?tag=seibertron07-20& ... s_li_ss_tl

Both are available.

Emerje

Thanks, Amazon being Amazon again. Both were unavailable for me at the time I posted, and was just able to order them now.

I do wonder since Amazon receives full cases of single figures if they open pre-orders for a certain quantity, and then once that initial one sells out the put more into their order from Hasbro and open them up again. The would explain the wonkyness that we see at times.

You, very wonky. Fireflight is available for me again.

The availability of the two Aerialbots keeps coming and going and coming and going again.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Mark considers Venin to be the "true leader" of the Insecticons, not Kickback.

Wait, when was Kickback ever the leader? I thought the leadership rotated between Venin, Shrapnel, and Bombshell depending on the media.

He might have gotten mixed up between Shrapnel and Kickback.

On second reflection, this states Kickback as the leader:

Until I got the Blokees one, this is the Kickback I used for my group

This entire wave is a fail for me. Nothing looks good enough for what they will charge. Only the minion prime will be mine. Even 86 megs looks off. Like his head is too big or something.

I love love love Alpha Trion comes with a quill and book!! So neat. Im also glad to see they are trying new stuff in terms of how they look and not just rehashing recent desgins.

Also, Flatline? Amazing and i love how EVIL he looks Very solid Decepticon concept there, almost makes we say ill pull the trigger on him

I've pre-ordered Fireflight, Skydive, and Venom (Venin). Those were the only ones that I wanted from this lot. I'm hoping Venom's wings are detachable 5mm accessories so they can be moved. When it's in robot mode, I don't like the bug wings being tucked under the armpits. That's a holdover from G1, but it's just as much a mistake now as it was back then...

So it wasn't a lie, I got my Star Optimus Prime from Amazon today. The box is SMALL, not sure how they'll justify the price in stores since it's only a little bigger than a commander box, just a rectangle instead of a square. At least they dropped the price from traditional Titans. I'll open it later.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:So it wasn't a lie, I got my Star Optimus Prime from Amazon today. The box is SMALL, not sure how they'll justify the price in stores since it's only a little bigger than a commander box, just a rectangle instead of a square. At least they dropped the price from traditional Titans. I'll open it later.

Emerje

If you have any of the old Supreme class toys from the Unicron Trilogy, I'd appreciate any size comparison pics with Star OP.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:So it wasn't a lie, I got my Star Optimus Prime from Amazon today. The box is SMALL, not sure how they'll justify the price in stores since it's only a little bigger than a commander box, just a rectangle instead of a square. At least they dropped the price from traditional Titans. I'll open it later.

Emerje

If you have any of the old Supreme class toys from the Unicron Trilogy, I'd appreciate any size comparison pics with Star OP.

I have to see if they're anywhere I can actually get to them. I think I have a Unicron or Cybertron Metroplex handy.

Edit: Was able to easily pull out 2010 Unicron, I'll have pictures up in the morning. Just eyeballing them they're the same size, but Unicron is upstairs and Prime is still in the living room.

Emerje

Here we go. No, I couldn't be bothered to dust Unicron off:




A few thoughts:

• He doesn't feal like a complete figure without his tracks on and his transport things in his leg. Without those he's very lightweight thanks to being so hollow otherwise.
• Definitely has Titan ratchet joints, they are VERY loud!
• The transport can't be slid into, "drive" into, the leg, you have to open his leg and plug it inside very awkwardly. The door is plenty big enough for it to slide into, but it's blocked by big rectangular pegs. The pegs should have been a rail that the transport to slide onto instead of pegged onto.
• He should have come with two transports, especially since there's no sign of Sky Garry and Grandus in 2026.
• His articulation is a little limited, his knees don't even bed 90 degrees even without the tracks.
• I really like the new transformation steps compared to the original, his alt mode is much more solid now. I like the way the fists have to be slid out, flipped and put back in.

More if I think about it.

Emerje

Wow! He's roughly the same height as Supreme class Cheetor with his legs fully bent rather than extended.

Emerje wrote:So it wasn't a lie, I got my Star Optimus Prime from Amazon today. The box is SMALL, not sure how they'll justify the price in stores since it's only a little bigger than a commander box, just a rectangle instead of a square. At least they dropped the price from traditional Titans. I'll open it later.

Emerje

Wow. I wonder if Amazon really did lose mine then. Did you get it from Amazon US?

I know there's people who will think he's just an overpriced Commander based on the size of the box, so here he is with Siege Jetfire to show just how big he really is.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Emerje wrote:So it wasn't a lie, I got my Star Optimus Prime from Amazon today. The box is SMALL, not sure how they'll justify the price in stores since it's only a little bigger than a commander box, just a rectangle instead of a square. At least they dropped the price from traditional Titans. I'll open it later.

Emerje

Wow. I wonder if Amazon really did lose mine then. Did you get it from Amazon US?

Yes, regular Amazon, shipped out of MO via UPS which is quite far from me.

Emerje

Really happy to finally see again Venom/Venin, yet what really caught my eye was Flatline. As for the Primes, Onyx aside I am really unimpressed, especially by Alpha Trion.

Star Convoy is cool, but I thought it would be a little bigger. Interestingly though, the last time we had a UT Supreme Class toy (IIRC) was the Primus recolor for TLK in 2017, which oddly enough was a whopping $150. Even for a TRU exclusive, I remember people being outraged at how overpriced it was. From $50 in 2006 to $150.00 in 2017. However, while Star Convoy has all the expected articulation of a modern TF, Id still say it was less complex than Cybertron Primus, thus I guess why Hasbro couldn't justify charging more for SC in 2025.

o.supreme wrote:Star Convoy is cool, but I thought it would be a little bigger.

We saw from this news post how tall he is compared to Superion (who is of comparative height to Menasor) back when the toy was first unveiled:


And this other news post also from back then said he's 15 inches tall.

Personally would have preferred him a little smaller, but other people had visions of him being 2 feet tall for whatever reason I still don't understand. At best he's the same size as Powermaster Prime in the art we've seen.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Personally would have preferred him a little smaller, but other people had visions of him being 2 feet tall for whatever reason I still don't understand. At best he's the same size as Powermaster Prime in the art we've seen.

Emerje

Yeah, I never saw him as being a city-sized giant. He always struck me as being in the same realm of height as God Ginrai, Star Saber, and Dai Atlas, fitting in that era of JG1 having Japanese-influenced ultimate-form Super Robots as Autobot leaders.

Honestly, I thought Star Convoy should have been done as a CC. And since he was announced as a "Small Titan" I never expected him to be as big as the others. But Devastator, Predaking and Tidal Wave are all 18 inches. I know I was in the minority thinking Tidal Wave wa also oversized and overpriced, which is why I never got him ( the first Titan I passed on). I figured for the price of $150,even though Star Convoy would not have the weight or complexity of a combiner, or Tidal Wave, he would be about the same size. Just shows I was right in my desire all along: a $90 CC would have worked just fine.

As much as I really enjoy this version of Optimus,I guess I'll wait for a sale, or just pass altogether, I have the TT selects after all, while it's not the best, it works well with Super Megatron

I still don't like the leg proportions and some of the design elements but I still would've got this if it's priced at CC and about 12 inches, as I like to support the "play pattern" this figure got. It's uncommon for a non-Citybot TF figure.

People wanting a 2 feet tall Star Convoy/OP must've wanted it to scale with a normal (Deluxe) sized Hot Rod... it's insane, but makes sense in its own way. That could work in a HasLab -- though with a higher chance to fail than succeed imo -- but definitely not retail.

I'm assuming the desire for a gigantic Star Convoy primarily came from two places:
1. The general word association of "Titan Class = Biggest Guy"
2. The fact that TFWiki gives his official height as being 45 meters, which is over 3 times as big as Sunbow Omega Supreme

And here I was taught that size doesn't matter.

Nemesis Primal wrote:2. The fact that TFWiki gives his official height as being 45 meters, which is over 3 times as big as Sunbow Omega Supreme

The thing is, that height measurement given by TV Magazine never made any sense to begin with, as stated earlier in this thread:

Sabrblade wrote:It's been pointed out to me that The Battlestars story pages do say that Star Convoy and Super Megatron are 45 meters tall and 35 meters tall, respectively.



However, the illustrations in the story pages don't reflect that. Star Convoy is shown to be about two heads taller than Sky Garry, who is shown in the first Battlestars story page to be about one head shorter than Dai Atlas, who was shown in Zone to be just a little shorter than Victory Saber, who is just Star Saber wearing extra boots, and Star Saber was shown in Victory to be within the same height neighborhood as both Deathsaurus and the four Combiners of that series.

Emerje wrote:And then there's this pic of Sky Garry and Optimus Prime.



Even the package art seems to mostly agree even though they tend to be mostly non-canon. Micromasters being roughly the size of humans shows that these guys aren't even proper bases, more like field battle stations




I'm thinking whoever wrote the blurbs with the sizes didn't realize those bots were Micromasters and made the numbers based on them being populated by normal sized Transformers.

Emerje

That part from Emerje makes sense.

Micronus Prime designer commentary from Mark Maher:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKx9QkLsgVD/

Mighty Micronus Prime has graced us with his presence. Oh how the minicons have rejoiced their great granddaddy, the first ever minicon, has returned. Whats this you say, he has with him an apex armored exo suit that mimicks his every move, powered by the amazing tini tiny but super powerful Chimera stone artifact!
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I fell in love with the RID design for Micronus right when he was training Optimus in the realm of the primes. So I started there and I always wanted to do a one wheeled motorcycle, seemed like a fitting alt mode for a minicon king, but once I kicked off to Kunihiro san, he had pointed out that being the first ever minicon, he should actually be a minicon. My brain module almost shattered but then the spark was planted and the energon flowed.
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An exo-suit powered by a disc 🤔 how cool would it be if the ancient prime artifact the Chimera stone powered the suit when he wasn’t in it, it mimics his every move, an extension of his own self but yet still a companion. Now we are 🧑‍🍳 cookin! I always love to dive into the lore of the amazing 40 year megabrand that we all love, I love utilizing references and embracing what makes this brand stand out from the rest. When you have Takara Tomy by your side, you can really make miracles and dreams come true.
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Lets get into the teeny tiny deets, the exo-suit (apex armor/ early beginnings of pretender technology) does indeed come apart to power up (weaponize) other characters. The Armada minicon logo was obviously a must, and I utilized the colors from the RID animation but juiced them up a bit 😉 Im going to stop there because the fun you will have in hand with this guy, is just a really great feeling that I’ve been chasing with the primes. Somthing different but familiar and somthing innovative, fresh, and new, lemme know if your here for it 👇🏻

I really do like what they did with Micronus Prime. And if that opens the door for some true pretenders like octopunch or something in a few years then even better

So cool though. Still a minicon AND a suit of armor AND a unicycle alt mode. It just gets better and better

Wait, Mark was gonna still base Micronus off of RiD15 but not actually make him a Minicon? I'm glad Kunihiro said something then.

Razorbeast88 wrote:octopunch

All the recent Mayhem exclusives using the IDW2 Mayhem iconography have really given me an Octopunch craving. I don't care if he's updated Legacy-style or if he becomes a Weaponizer like Micronus's armor, I just want an Octopunch that can go directly from his shell design to alt mode. Anything more than that is extra.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:2. The fact that TFWiki gives his official height as being 45 meters, which is over 3 times as big as Sunbow Omega Supreme

The thing is, that height measurement given by TV Magazine never made any sense to begin with, as stated earlier in this thread:

That part from Emerje makes sense.

Yeah, exact scale with all these JG1 guys and this franchise in general is kind of a losing battle 9 times out of ten.

I had zero interest in Micronus until it was revealed his armor is also a weaponizer! That is super cool. I may just get him.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'm assuming the desire for a gigantic Star Convoy primarily came from two places:
1. The general word association of "Titan Class = Biggest Guy"

Which is ironic, since now we know, none of the other Prime toys are CC, Star Convoy/Optimus would still have been the biggest Prime at CC.

o.supreme wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'm assuming the desire for a gigantic Star Convoy primarily came from two places:
1. The general word association of "Titan Class = Biggest Guy"

Which is ironic, since now we know, none of the other Prime toys are CC, Star Convoy/Optimus would still have been the biggest Prime at CC.

Plus we already laid the groundwork with Armada Prime, who to me is the ideal size, and Commander Class Armada Prime is WAY more complex than Titan Class Star Prime. They could easily shrink Star Prime to Armada Prime's height, not remove a single thing and still include Hot Rod (who needs to be a Micrometer, the design team missed the entire point of shrinking him down). In all honestly I wonder if Star Prime was originally planned to be a Commander, but when they decided to make Commander Combiners they just scaled him (and Rodimus) up and called him a new Titan price point instead.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'm assuming the desire for a gigantic Star Convoy primarily came from two places:
1. The general word association of "Titan Class = Biggest Guy"

Which is ironic, since now we know, none of the other Prime toys are CC, Star Convoy/Optimus would still have been the biggest Prime at CC.

Plus we already laid the groundwork with Armada Prime, who to me is the ideal size, and Commander Class Armada Prime is WAY more complex than Titan Class Star Prime. They could easily shrink Star Prime to Armada Prime's height, not remove a single thing and still include Hot Rod (who needs to be a Micrometer, the design team missed the entire point of shrinking him down). In all honestly I wonder if Star Prime was originally planned to be a Commander, but when they decided to make Commander Combiners they just scaled him (and Rodimus) up and called him a new Titan price point instead.

Emerje

Any ground to discuss or assume a Prime could be locked at a size class ended when the Haslab Omega Prime was funded.

I got Heatwave out of the second wave first, and I honestly wish HasTak did the whole G1 Optimus transformation schtick for the upper body to not only replace the hollow torso from Legacy Bulkhead but to also give him some more proportionate arms in addition to slimming him down a bit. Kind of sucks how Chase was made from the ground up by comparison, and I'm now wondering how Blades and Boulder will turn out (not sure if we'll get any other members).

I got my Wreckers vs Mayhem sets in, and I am loving them even more so than I thought I would.

Ironfist's weapons are nice, I appreciate that he got those, and that they are modular. Love his headsculpt too even if it is a bit small.

Topspin has some nice colors, so glad we got Diaclone jumpstarters.

Spinister has reminded me how good his mold is, and I am loving the colors they used on him.

Carnivac is long awaited, and he is wonderful. i have always really liked the Weirdwolf mold, so it getting some retooling to make Carnivac is great. Love this guy.








I also got to pose toy Gears around some more, I wish the alt mode was better, but I do like the mold, especially with the faceplate.

Good News: Amazon now has Star Optimus & CC Silverbolt for preorder, along with the SS Long Haul/Hook set.

Bad News: This is over $300 id need to spend all in a very short period of time (these are all expected to come out within a week of each other in July).... Hopefully they are available for some time, I'm going to have to space them out, otherwise I may juts not be able t get them.