Transformers Unite Warriors UW-04 Devastator now available for preorder at BBTS

william-james88 wrote:Ok everyone, this is it, the moment you have all been waiting for: Unite Warriors 04 Devastator is now available at Bigbadtoystore.com for 224.99$. The eta is December 2015 as many predicted and the current placeholder images were taken from the reveal at Tokyo Toy Show.

Is this more than you expected? Or are you clicking that preorder button right after reading this?

YoungPrime wrote:80 bucks more for elbows and extra paints apps....?

Pass!

Mindmaster wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:80 bucks more for elbows and extra paints apps....?

Pass!

New combiner head that allows both toy- and cartoon-accuracy, new elbows for 2/3 of the team while the other third gets new knees, possibly more tooling on Scavenger and Bonecrusher to fill in Devastator's armpits, individual weapons, and improved paint job?

Maybe not eighty, but definitely worth extra dough.

So now I play the waiting game for good ol' TCP to get theirs up.

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

So someone needs to lose their job and be unable to support their family for making a kid's toy a different kind of cement truck than one that they made 30 years ago?

• More show-accurate deco
• Brand new headsculpt that contains a retractable visor to switch between both head designs
• Brand new gun weapons for each individual figure, all of which can store on Devastator's back
• Re-engineered arms for Scrapper to give him elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Long Haul to give him proper elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Hook to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Mixmaster to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered legs for Scavenger to give him better knees
• Re-engineered legs for Bonecrusher to give him better knees

william-james88 wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

So someone needs to lose their job and be unable to support their family for making a kid's toy a different kind of cement truck than one that they made 30 years ago?

Adding to your statement Sunstorm, Takara even added the paint to make the leg work as G1 accurate and for anyone to simply flip the truck around in alt mode if needed.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

So someone needs to lose their job and be unable to support their family for making a kid's toy a different kind of cement truck than one that they made 30 years ago?

Adding to your statement Sunstorm, Takara even added the paint to make the leg work as G1 accurate and for anyone to simply flip the truck around in alt mode if needed.

Which makes this Devy even better! As for my stand on which to get, I would love to get this one over the Hasbro or SDCC versions, except I can't afford it. And besides, I'd be keeping him in combined mode (And I don't need the retooled head with the flip-up sunglasses because I don't like the eyes on the first place), so elbows wouldn't matter. And because of the fact that I don't like chrome (and the eyes thing), I'll pick the retail Devastator.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

So someone needs to lose their job and be unable to support their family for making a kid's toy a different kind of cement truck than one that they made 30 years ago?

Adding to your statement Sunstorm, Takara even added the paint to make the leg work as G1 accurate and for anyone to simply flip the truck around in alt mode if needed.

Which makes this Devy even better! As for my stand on which to get, I would love to get this one over the Hasbro or SDCC versions, except I can't afford it. And besides, I'd be keeping him in combined mode (And I don't need the retooled head with the flip-up sunglasses because I don't like the eyes on the first place), so elbows wouldn't matter. And because of the fact that I don't like chrome (and the eyes thing), I'll pick the retail Devastator.

Looking at the other page, there is a 3rd party add on that actually adds a cab that covers the foot, making Mix look much more convincing.

Sabrblade wrote:O hai, RobotKingdom with your $179.90 preorder price - http://www.robotkingdom.com/tuwuw04.html

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Looking at the other page, there is a 3rd party add on that actually adds a cab that covers the foot, making Mix look much more convincing.

Of course there is.

Sabrblade wrote:Re-posting from the Devastator thread.

All the known changes made to Takara Devastator compared to Hasbro's retail version:

• More show-accurate deco
• Brand new headsculpt that contains a retractable visor to switch between both head designs
• Brand new gun weapons for each individual figure, all of which can store on Devastator's back
• Re-engineered arms for Scrapper to give him elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Long Haul to give him proper elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Hook to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered arms for Mixmaster to give him better (and double-jointed) elbows
• Re-engineered legs for Scavenger to give him better knees
• Re-engineered legs for Bonecrusher to give him better knees

william-james88 wrote:Ok everyone, this is it, the moment you have all been waiting for: Unite Warriors 04 Devastator is now available at Bigbadtoystore.com for 224.99$. The eta is December 2015 as many predicted and the current placeholder images were taken from the reveal at Tokyo Toy Show.

Is this more than you expected? Or are you clicking that preorder button right after reading this?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:O hai, RobotKingdom with your $179.90 preorder price - http://www.robotkingdom.com/tuwuw04.html

Ok, this gives me hope that it will be along those lines at the japanese online retailers.

Spanbauer wrote:Put in my pre-order at The Chosen Prime for $225 shipped. Of course I wish the price was lower ($175 would have been nice), but considering I was prepared to pay $300 to get the SDCC version off eBay if necessary, it's fine. Shame though that it'll likely be January before we get it; don't Takara releases always happen at the end of the month?

necr0blivion wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:O hai, RobotKingdom with your $179.90 preorder price - http://www.robotkingdom.com/tuwuw04.html

Ok, this gives me hope that it will be along those lines at the japanese online retailers.

RobotKingdom also lists this product as MSRP of 25,000 JPY. So it looks like they are offering it at about a 10% discount, which can be normal for other Japanese retailers. The problem with that (speaking specifically for myself and any other US customers) is the shipping for an item that large. RK quoted me $87, so I just went ahead and preordered from BBTS. While I sincerely doubt other Japanese retailers would quote me the same shipping price (even at EMS rates), it's still an important factor to consider.

Here's hoping you get the price you are looking for.

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

Scale issues in a mytho that uses mass shifting as an all around excuse/explanation?

I thought Transformers or the Transformers lifeform is always "improving" or changing /transforming? Mixmaster, though no longer toy accurate is also based on an actual vehicle so no biggy an issue.

mooncake623 wrote:TFYUKI just tweeted out an in-package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor! This image shows that Unite Warriors Menasor's packaging will be in the same style of their Superion! Check out the image mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

Robogeek1973 wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:TFYUKI just tweeted out an in-package image of Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Menasor! This image shows that Unite Warriors Menasor's packaging will be in the same style of their Superion! Check out the image mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

Awesome, I can't wait for Menasor as well.

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

Scale issues in a mytho that uses mass shifting as an all around excuse/explanation?

I thought Transformers or the Transformers lifeform is always "improving" or changing /transforming? Mixmaster, though no longer toy accurate is also based on an actual vehicle so no biggy an issue.

That's all well and good. But X wanted to pose this devy along with the other CW combiners into a show accurate scale and replace his 3rd party toy. But since it turns out Hasbro went for a much bigger scale for devastator, he cant. This has nothing to do with what makes sense and doesnt make sense, its just about him wanting his toys to look good together on the shelf and since this Devastator is not in scale with the other CW combiners (and their 3rd party counterparts), he wont buy it. Simple as that. I dont get why we have to constantly debate this. everyone is free to have their own reasons as to why they will or wont buy something.

Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.

Sabrblade wrote:O hai, RobotKingdom with your $179.90 preorder price - http://www.robotkingdom.com/tuwuw04.html

With that we might be able to predict the Japanese MSRP on Devastator at US$179.99 or around ¥22,300

Takara Tomy's Unite Warrior devastator includes all 6 Constructicons: Mixmaster, Scrapper, Long Haul, Scavenger, Bonecrusher & Hook which unite to form the mighty Devastator! This set is rumored to include elbow joints, individual weapons, more paint apps, purple devastator hands and more!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.

... with vents for windows.

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.

... with vents for windows.

They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.

Emerje

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.

... with vents for windows.

They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.

Emerje

And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.

... with vents for windows.

They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.

Emerje

And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!

Gearslide wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Gearslide wrote:You can make him look like his G1 vehicle by just turning him around. That's it.

... with vents for windows.

They aren't really much for vents though, it's not like they've put a grate over them like they would have in the real world. It's pretty obvious they were sculpted with a dual purpose in mind for when combined.

Emerje

And I've been blind: among the new parts, UW Mixmaster now has a cab instead of the engine!

It's not so much a new cab as it is paint on pre-existing detail. Takara put Silver on the "Engine" to bring attention to the pseudo-grill already on the mold.

I was saying it since we first saw Combiner Wars Mixmaster in detail: The detailing is there to make him work in either direction in vehicle mode. It's just that Takara is the only one putting paint on the detail to make it apparent.

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.

In your face, X!

Gearslide wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

Rated X wrote:If it was the same size as the other CW combiners, I would gladly buy it at that price. Those improvements are worth every penny in my opinion. But because Im not into stand alone figures, ill be sticking with my Hercules and yellow Giant that scale properly. I still say mixmasters alt mode is a disgrace. Somebody needs to get fired for that decision.

If you want to get technical, I would say they actually do scale. Think about it: construction vehicals are bigger than regular vehicals. Hence, the Constructicons being voyagers makes sense when you realize that Motormaster, a semi truck, is a voyager, and semi trucks and construction vehicals are approximately (ish) the same size.

In your face, X!

Using vehicles as your scale example is not the way to go, especially on this series. You have fighter jets the size of sportscars, Firetrucks the size of Commercial Passenger Planes, and Tanks the size of Ambulances.

Gearslide wrote:Hmmm... All this demand for a smaller Devastator makes me wonder if we'll see a company down the road make a knock-off of the Constructicons that are smaller scaled to be the same height as the other teams in combined mode.