Video Review for Titan Class Trypticon Showing How to Avoid Breakage
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Comment by dragons
Jun 24, 2017
Thanks for review like how he says in video he likes his six shot wings how they are so for anyone toy have/ needs to be properly transformed correctly or else it's world war three shows transformer toys do not have need to be transformed properly all the time it's how person likes toy figure to look regardless how people with ADHD will react that it's not transformed properly.
Look forward to buy this guy
Look forward to buy this guy
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Comment by DeathReviews
Jun 24, 2017
Breakaway legs, eh? That's an onion in the ointment. Will Hasbro panic and fix this? Intelligence guided by experience says, 'Nope'
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Comment by Qwan
Jun 25, 2017
So yeah, I've investigated Trypticon's hips further myself as well, and... they're clearly meant to move properly but Hasbro kinda put themselves in a corner with it. The hips are just on super strong ratchets, presumably to stop Tryp from pitching forward or whatever during posing, but what that means is that there's so much pressure that it looks like the inner mechanisms of the hips just get wrecked eventually.
Basically there's a little cross-shaped bit of plastic in the hips, that slots into a cross-shaped hole in a toothed piece of plastic that comprises half the ratchet - but because the spring is so strong, instead of the toothed piece compressing in and letting the joint move, instead the piece just rotates in place and totally wrecks the cross-shaped piece that's meant to stop it from doing so. Here's a couple images of inside mine's hips to hopefully make it clearer:

There's the two inner cross-shapes on the inside of his hips. The left hip of my Trypticon (which is on the right side of the picture
) is the one that's been wrecked, whereas the right one (on the left) is how it should look if nothing's gone wrong.

In between the two hips, now, is the piece that's meant to slot over that cross. You can see how it should slide right on there and be prevented from rotating, but as is obvious that hasn't been working properly. I realize now I should've taken a shot of the overly-strong spring, but I forgot oops. Rest assured it's insanely big, definitely much more so than is needed. (Ironically, Hasbro was probably trying to avoid issues by making it overly strong. Seems they can never win, can they...)


Closer-up shots of the two hips, first fine and the other wrecked. It's obvious that once this has happened, it isn't fixable. I'll be returning Trypticon for a new one tomorrow. (Sad to see the work I did on his stickers - a good four hours at least - go to waste but at least now I have a better grasp where they're meant to go, so I can maybe do them better this time around.)
Personally I won't be removing the ratchets altogether if I can help it, unlike the video suggests - even the strongest friction joints wear down eventually and I don't want my Trypticon to suddenly faceplant off his shelf one day. My current solution will be (once I exchange for a new one) to disassemble his hips, cut those springs down so they're less insane, and put them back in; hopefully if I hit the right balance, there should be enough pressure for the ratchets to still work but not so much that the ratchets lock up and destroy their non-movable housings. I'll play around with how much spring can be trimmed down (without compromising the ratchet) on my functioning hip tonight and I'll check back in tomorrow, hopefully with a new and less-breakable Trypticon, to let everyone know how the operation goes.
...I just wish that one of Hasbro's most impressive recent toys didn't self-destruct just by trying to pose it (or transform, for that matter).
Basically there's a little cross-shaped bit of plastic in the hips, that slots into a cross-shaped hole in a toothed piece of plastic that comprises half the ratchet - but because the spring is so strong, instead of the toothed piece compressing in and letting the joint move, instead the piece just rotates in place and totally wrecks the cross-shaped piece that's meant to stop it from doing so. Here's a couple images of inside mine's hips to hopefully make it clearer:

There's the two inner cross-shapes on the inside of his hips. The left hip of my Trypticon (which is on the right side of the picture

In between the two hips, now, is the piece that's meant to slot over that cross. You can see how it should slide right on there and be prevented from rotating, but as is obvious that hasn't been working properly. I realize now I should've taken a shot of the overly-strong spring, but I forgot oops. Rest assured it's insanely big, definitely much more so than is needed. (Ironically, Hasbro was probably trying to avoid issues by making it overly strong. Seems they can never win, can they...)


Closer-up shots of the two hips, first fine and the other wrecked. It's obvious that once this has happened, it isn't fixable. I'll be returning Trypticon for a new one tomorrow. (Sad to see the work I did on his stickers - a good four hours at least - go to waste but at least now I have a better grasp where they're meant to go, so I can maybe do them better this time around.)
Personally I won't be removing the ratchets altogether if I can help it, unlike the video suggests - even the strongest friction joints wear down eventually and I don't want my Trypticon to suddenly faceplant off his shelf one day. My current solution will be (once I exchange for a new one) to disassemble his hips, cut those springs down so they're less insane, and put them back in; hopefully if I hit the right balance, there should be enough pressure for the ratchets to still work but not so much that the ratchets lock up and destroy their non-movable housings. I'll play around with how much spring can be trimmed down (without compromising the ratchet) on my functioning hip tonight and I'll check back in tomorrow, hopefully with a new and less-breakable Trypticon, to let everyone know how the operation goes.
...I just wish that one of Hasbro's most impressive recent toys didn't self-destruct just by trying to pose it (or transform, for that matter).
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Comment by Stuartmaximus
Jun 25, 2017
I wonder if the Takara version will fix this prob 
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Comment by Ravage XK
Jun 25, 2017
Well this is a huge disappointment. You'd think that QC would have caught this issue.
Is this a deal breaker for anyone?
Is this a deal breaker for anyone?
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Comment by Va'al
Jun 25, 2017
And here is the official Transformers Facebook page, giving us a very very brief promotional stop motion clip for the upcoming Titans Return Titan class Decepticon space t-rex Trypticon! The clip is extremely brief, but after Australia, you may be pleased to hear that the Philippines have also started seeing the big box of dino appearing at retail, as Twitter's generator_g1 points out.
If you come across him in your neck of the woods, make sure to point it out in our Sightings Database, to help out fellow collectors on the hunt!
If you come across him in your neck of the woods, make sure to point it out in our Sightings Database, to help out fellow collectors on the hunt!
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Comment by Albatross250
Jun 25, 2017
ALREADY SIGHTED AND AVAILABLE IN ASIA RETAILS?! (PH) 

Yes it hurts my wallet very much


Yes it hurts my wallet very much
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whaa....?
the Takara version?
Comment by Stuartmaximus
Jun 25, 2017
Albatross250 wrote:ALREADY SIGHTED AND AVAILABLE IN ASIA RETAILS?! (PH)
Yes it hurts my wallet very much![]()
whaa....?
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Comment by DeathReviews
Jun 25, 2017
A thought - the spring in the hip rotation joints. Is it possible that you have to pull the hip outward slightly in order to rotate them safely? And that the spring was meant to pull them back into place once released? That's what I might do if I wanted to engineer a heavy figure that would have a mechanism that allowed for hip rotation, and yet have them lock in place afterwards to prevent slippage...
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Hell yes it is!!!
I really hope the guys at Takara are looking at what's going on. Look the bottom line is I don't fork out my hard earned money on TFs especially expensive ones to break apart due QC BS...
. I also don't wish to have to open things up and fart around with parts, too much money is involved for me to have to do that. There may be those who may enjoy this or don't mind but not me.
So unless
can help rectify things it pains me to say that I will not be getting Trypticon...'nuff said!
Comment by Nemesis Destron
Jun 25, 2017
Ravage XK wrote:Well this is a huge disappointment. You'd think that QC would have caught this issue.
Is this a deal breaker for anyone?
Hell yes it is!!!
I really hope the guys at Takara are looking at what's going on. Look the bottom line is I don't fork out my hard earned money on TFs especially expensive ones to break apart due QC BS...
. I also don't wish to have to open things up and fart around with parts, too much money is involved for me to have to do that. There may be those who may enjoy this or don't mind but not me.So unless
can help rectify things it pains me to say that I will not be getting Trypticon...'nuff said!
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Comment by Kurona
Jun 25, 2017
We could also get a running change. Stuff like this happens all the time, right?
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Comment by Ravage XK
Jun 25, 2017
I have a pre order and unless there is a fix or you do have to pull the legs to move them I'm thinking of cancelling.
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Comment by RiddlerJ
Jun 25, 2017
OH, COME ON!
I was all excited about Tryppy coming soon and this has to pop up.
I was all excited about Tryppy coming soon and this has to pop up.
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No, the Hasbro version. He wrote PH for philipines, so that can only mean Hasbro version since the takara version only sells in Japan.
Yes it does. More reason for me to wait till after christmas for this toy.
Comment by william-james88
Jun 25, 2017
Stuartmaximus wrote:whaa....?the Takara version?
No, the Hasbro version. He wrote PH for philipines, so that can only mean Hasbro version since the takara version only sells in Japan.
Kurona wrote:We could also get a running change. Stuff like this happens all the time, right?
Yes it does. More reason for me to wait till after christmas for this toy.
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After Christmas...?
Comment by Nemesis Destron
Jun 25, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:whaa....?the Takara version?
No, the Hasbro version. He wrote PH for philipines, so that can only mean Hasbro version since the takara version only sells in Japan.Kurona wrote:We could also get a running change. Stuff like this happens all the time, right?
Yes it does. More reason for me to wait till after christmas for this toy.
After Christmas...?
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Yup, any money I get at christmas will be going towards what I hope is an on sale and fixed second run Trypticon
Comment by william-james88
Jun 25, 2017
Nemesis Destron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:whaa....?the Takara version?
No, the Hasbro version. He wrote PH for philipines, so that can only mean Hasbro version since the takara version only sells in Japan.Kurona wrote:We could also get a running change. Stuff like this happens all the time, right?
Yes it does. More reason for me to wait till after christmas for this toy.
After Christmas...?
Yup, any money I get at christmas will be going towards what I hope is an on sale and fixed second run Trypticon
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Riiiiight-got it.
Comment by Nemesis Destron
Jun 25, 2017
william-james88 wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:whaa....?the Takara version?
No, the Hasbro version. He wrote PH for philipines, so that can only mean Hasbro version since the takara version only sells in Japan.Kurona wrote:We could also get a running change. Stuff like this happens all the time, right?
Yes it does. More reason for me to wait till after christmas for this toy.
After Christmas...?
Yup, any money I get at christmas will be going towards what I hope is an on sale and fixed second run Trypticon
Riiiiight-got it.
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Comment by Cobotron
Jun 25, 2017
I'll wait for someone else to do a full explanation of the problem before I go into panic mode.
Re: Video Review for Titan Class Trypticon Showing How to Avoid Breakage
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Qwan did a page back.
The long and the short of it is that the springs in the ratchet joints are really strong, to the point they could lock up. If excessive force is applied to get it to move again when that happens, the internal structure of joint gets wrecked to heavens due to the springs not budging. By the by, they're BIG, like the width of an earthworm.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 25, 2017
Cobotron wrote:I'll wait for someone else to do a full explanation of the problem before I go into panic mode.
Qwan did a page back.
The long and the short of it is that the springs in the ratchet joints are really strong, to the point they could lock up. If excessive force is applied to get it to move again when that happens, the internal structure of joint gets wrecked to heavens due to the springs not budging. By the by, they're BIG, like the width of an earthworm.
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Comment by DeathReviews
Jun 25, 2017
Can anyone confirm my suspicion that users are supposed to pull the hip joints outward slightly when rotating, so the plastic ratchets have clearance of each other? And the spring pulls the hips back in when released?


