Video Review of New Beast Wars Scorponok Reissue

Sabrblade wrote:Hopefully this version isn't as fragile as the original Kenner and Takara versions.

I found an original at a thrift store a few years ago. While it was missing the Cyber Bee, everything else felt solid and still does. What was the issue some people had?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Cybershark and Wolfang (which K-9 is a redeco of)

K-9 is a redeco and retool of Wolfang. Beast Mode and detachable shield have different engineering.

You're both wrong, the two figures share no parts in common, they only share transformation.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Hopefully this version isn't as fragile as the original Kenner and Takara versions.

I found an original at a thrift store a few years ago. While it was missing the Cyber Bee, everything else felt solid and still does. What was the issue some people had?

In my case it's the hip ball joint popping off constantly. I think everyone has issues with the bee not playing nice, either the wings pop open for no reason or it just outright launches on its own. Really hope they fixed the tolerances there.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Cybershark and Wolfang (which K-9 is a redeco of)

K-9 is a redeco and retool of Wolfang. Beast Mode and detachable shield have different engineering.

You're both wrong, the two figures share no parts in common, they only share transformation.



Emerje

TF Wiki wrote:Part of the fourth wave of year-two Beast Wars Deluxes, K-9 is an extensive retooling of Wolfang, transforming into a German Shepherd. Almost all of his parts have been given new molding, often becoming larger, making him somewhat more massive than his predecessor. The only part of his body not changed is his robot head sculpt.

Three of us, then?

Plus, as I have the figures in front of me, I specifically noted different engineering. I didn't mention anything else. There is a Wolfang mold (Wolfang & Red Wolfang) and a K-9 mold (K-9 & Max-B).

I bought K-9 back in the day. Originally I never found Wolfang for sale anywhere. In the last few years I decided to collect and complete the mold. It was the first time I had him in hand. I was surprised by the size difference between them. Considering neither ever got into the show, they really put a lot of work into the figures.

william-james88 wrote:That's because Wolfang was supposed to be a show character instead of Tigatron.

But then again, they put a ton of work into a bunch of these toys.

I always thought it was supposed to be Polar Claw that appeared in the show, then they made a late decision to switch to Tigatron ? (easier to adapt Cheetor CG Model to another, slightly larger Cat, with just a few changes, as opposed to a whole new model), but they BOTH had the whole snow environment going etc. Also why they changed Tigatron's toy from Orange (production photos) to white (final product).

(*Yes I know IRL it is a misnomer that ALL White Tigers live in Siberia, or snowy environments. It is a recessive gene that can appear in any of the different Tiger Breeds)

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:That's because Wolfang was supposed to be a show character instead of Tigatron.

But then again, they put a ton of work into a bunch of these toys.

I always thought it was supposed to be Polar Claw that appeared in the show, then they made a late decision to switch to Tigatron ? (easier to adapt Cheetor CG Model to another, slightly larger Cat, with just a few changes, as opposed to a whole new model), but they BOTH had the whole snow environment going etc. Also why they changed Tigatron's toy from Orange (production photos) to white (final product).

(*Yes I know IRL it is a misnomer that ALL White Tigers live in Siberia, or snowy environments. It is a recessive gene that can appear in any of the different Tiger Breeds)

TFwiki says it was supposed to be wolfang

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:That's because Wolfang was supposed to be a show character instead of Tigatron.

But then again, they put a ton of work into a bunch of these toys.

I always thought it was supposed to be Polar Claw that appeared in the show, then they made a late decision to switch to Tigatron ? (easier to adapt Cheetor CG Model to another, slightly larger Cat, with just a few changes, as opposed to a whole new model), but they BOTH had the whole snow environment going etc. Also why they changed Tigatron's toy from Orange (production photos) to white (final product).

(*Yes I know IRL it is a misnomer that ALL White Tigers live in Siberia, or snowy environments. It is a recessive gene that can appear in any of the different Tiger Breeds)

TFwiki says it was supposed to be wolfang

The show was originally leading with Wolfang. From the perspective of the toyline marketing, Polar Claw could be implied. The dialogue spoken by Tigatron in Fallen Comrades could have been applied to all three. The isolationism of Polar Bears. The pack mentality of Wolves etc etc

The budget was the deciding factor. Leading us to forever muse over how cool Polarhawk or Wolfhawk could have been.

william-james88 wrote:That's because Wolfang was supposed to be a show character instead of Tigatron.

Indeed. But at the same time. For them to make a completely separate figure to Wolfang, based on upscaled engineering, in K-9. That's a level of work for a non-show character you don't really see anymore. As you say, there are a ton of examples of figures the designers went out of their way to look fantastic (The Transmetal 2 line, in particular).

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I'll always consider Silverbolt a dog, not a wolf. Semantics perhaps. But as I loathe Silverbolt, meanwhile adore Wolfang. I choose to make the distinction.

That said, I think the most visually striking design would have been Polarhawk.

Indeed. It is part of the reason, when I adapted Wolfang into my own writing. A German accent seemed fitting.

blackeyedprime wrote:Would have figured that would suit KNein more

K-9, I envisioned more with a really positive and friendly softly spoken voice. An unassuming badass.