Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line

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JTPrime17 gave a wave breakdown of the non exclusive generations lines coming out next year. The year will start with a 5th wave of Legacy United, which includes rereleases of Cosmos and toys we thought were cancelled, like Sureshot. Which means the 13 Primes line will start exactly one year from now, in April, as part of the Q2 offerings.

Here is the wave breakdown for deluxes, voyagers and leaders. Please note that this is never final, as we saw this year.

Primes wave 1: April 2025
Deluxe Animated Wasp
Deluxe Slingshot
Deluxe Air Raid
Deluxe Solus Prime
Voyager Prima
Voyager Armada Red Alert
Leader G2 Grimlock
Leader The Fallen

Primes Wave 2: July 2025
Deluxe Crasher PR
Deluxe Alchemist Prime
Deluxe Swindle
Voyager RID Skybyte
Voyager Rescue Bots Heatwave
Leader Onyx Prime

Primes wave 3: October 2025
Deluxe Micronus
Deluxe Venom
Deluxe Skydive
Deluxe Fireflight
Voyager Alpha Trion
Voyager Flatline

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Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178843)
Posted by Cheetron on April 9th, 2024 @ 10:44am CDT

No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178845)
Posted by First-Aid on April 9th, 2024 @ 10:58am CDT

...

...Swindle? Wonder if that's going to be Animated version...

Glad to see Armada Red Alert in there, though I think we were all expecting that.

I wonder if The Fallen will be the old IDW version. Would be nice to have a proper nonTitanium version of that.

A NEW RiD SkyByte? Hmmmm.

I'd wager Alpha Trion is going to be a minor retool of SS86 Scourge again.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178852)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 9th, 2024 @ 11:34am CDT

First-Aid wrote:...Swindle? Wonder if that's going to be Animated version...

I feel like the listing would have said "Animated" if that were the case.

First-Aid wrote:I wonder if The Fallen will be the old IDW version.

You did say "IDW".

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178856)
Posted by First-Aid on April 9th, 2024 @ 11:53am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:...Swindle? Wonder if that's going to be Animated version...
I feel like the listing would have said "Animated" if that were the case.

First-Aid wrote:I wonder if The Fallen will be the old IDW version.

You did say "IDW".

Crud. I guess i meant Dreamwave. It all kinda blurs together prior to 2005....

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178861)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 9th, 2024 @ 12:33pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:...Swindle? Wonder if that's going to be Animated version...
I feel like the listing would have said "Animated" if that were the case.

First-Aid wrote:I wonder if The Fallen will be the old IDW version.

You did say "IDW".

That's the version I want

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178862)
Posted by Brokebot on April 9th, 2024 @ 12:35pm CDT

I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178863)
Posted by Hero Alpha on April 9th, 2024 @ 12:39pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:...Swindle? Wonder if that's going to be Animated version...
I feel like the listing would have said "Animated" if that were the case.

First-Aid wrote:I wonder if The Fallen will be the old IDW version.

You did say "IDW".

That's the version I want

It's basically, squint test, one of the first 3 live-action movie Megatrons.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178865)
Posted by First-Aid on April 9th, 2024 @ 12:50pm CDT

Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

I believe it was already announced.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178866)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 9th, 2024 @ 12:51pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

I believe it was already announced.

This line hasn't even been announced.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178868)
Posted by First-Aid on April 9th, 2024 @ 12:54pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

I believe it was already announced.
This line hasn't even been announced.

Okay then. I believe I already hallucinated it.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178879)
Posted by Brokebot on April 9th, 2024 @ 3:57pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

I believe it was already announced.
This line hasn't even been announced.

Okay then. I believe I already hallucinated it.

Hallucinate it better than the last Menasor, please.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178882)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 9th, 2024 @ 4:43pm CDT

I think the general belief is that between the next two lines, we're going to get Superion and Bruticus because of Nexus Prime whose limbs are based on Airealbot and Combaticon molds.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178886)
Posted by LE0KING on April 9th, 2024 @ 5:34pm CDT

Oh the irony. I just paid a stupid amount of money for cloud brawn to turn into Alchemist Prime and complete my 13 primes shelf.
Although I do need a better Quintus/Quintessa Prime. The one I have is a random Chinese squid transformer.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178901)
Posted by Emerje on April 9th, 2024 @ 9:42pm CDT

Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178924)
Posted by First-Aid on April 10th, 2024 @ 8:26am CDT

Emerje wrote:
Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Probably more Earthspark. Every single store in my area has crowded out SS and Legacy with their excess of Earthspark shelfwarmers. Even the ROTB toys are getting crowded out. It's the exact same shtuff every day for the last 4 months.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178930)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 10th, 2024 @ 10:30am CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Probably more Earthspark.

There's no EarthSpark The Fallen.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178934)
Posted by Overcracker on April 10th, 2024 @ 10:49am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Probably more Earthspark.
There's no EarthSpark The Fallen.

I'd expect an updated version of the Titanium design.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178945)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 10th, 2024 @ 11:56am CDT

Cool beans, I'm excited for these

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178949)
Posted by First-Aid on April 10th, 2024 @ 12:15pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Probably more Earthspark.
There's no EarthSpark The Fallen.

Just more Earthspark shelfwarmers in general, not specifically the Fallen.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178952)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 10th, 2024 @ 12:18pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Probably more Earthspark.
There's no EarthSpark The Fallen.

Just more Earthspark shelfwarmers in general, not specifically the Fallen.

Emerje's quote you quoted was talking about The Fallen.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2178954)
Posted by First-Aid on April 10th, 2024 @ 12:20pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Cheetron wrote:No Optimus? No Bumblebee? What ever will clog shelves? And I just saw 3 leader class Fallens at a Walmart. I'm hoping for a new mold, not a reissue

I promise you, it will not be a reissue of the Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen figure.

Emerje

Probably more Earthspark.
There's no EarthSpark The Fallen.

Just more Earthspark shelfwarmers in general, not specifically the Fallen.
Emerje's quote you quoted was talking about The Fallen.

Yeah, realized that later on hence the correction :-)

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2179146)
Posted by william-james88 on April 15th, 2024 @ 10:02pm CDT

Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2179148)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 15th, 2024 @ 11:09pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

I really wish Hasbro would only do the Aerialbots necessary for Nexus Prime just to screw with people.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2179149)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 16th, 2024 @ 12:04am CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

I really wish Hasbro would only do the Aerialbots necessary for Nexus Prime just to screw with people.

Meaning the Energon ones instead of the G1 ones.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2179150)
Posted by Emerje on April 16th, 2024 @ 12:24am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

I really wish Hasbro would only do the Aerialbots necessary for Nexus Prime just to screw with people.
Meaning the Energon ones instead of the G1 ones.

I for one would welcome a do-over on all of the Energon combiners. I don't even care if they have janky hands as long as they get elbows.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2179151)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 16th, 2024 @ 12:24am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

I really wish Hasbro would only do the Aerialbots necessary for Nexus Prime just to screw with people.
Meaning the Energon ones instead of the G1 ones.

Even better!

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2179176)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 16th, 2024 @ 1:30pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

I really wish Hasbro would only do the Aerialbots necessary for Nexus Prime just to screw with people.
Meaning the Energon ones instead of the G1 ones.

I for one would welcome a do-over on all of the Energon combiners. I don't even care if they have janky hands as long as they get elbows.

Emerje

I am for this

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2183971)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 11th, 2024 @ 2:39am CDT

Man, coming back in here I still can't believe how early we got these listings....
So slight update on the next year listings, courtesy of TFW's HyperShauta and temporarily-resurrected JTPrime17:

Note on the waves, there has been an adjustment. Vortex will be taking Swindle’s original place in wave 2 in the updated case assortments it seems (hence the product number reassignment). Swindle will be a later wave figure.

Tra Gen Prime Dlx Vortex
Product Number: G1028

Guess that definitively clears up the "which Swindle is it" speculation while also conveniently strengthening the Nexus Prime theory...

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2183978)
Posted by o.supreme on September 11th, 2024 @ 10:58am CDT

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Brokebot wrote:I see Aerialbot names . . . . dare I hope for a Superion?

Yes, you’ll get superion

I really wish Hasbro would only do the Aerialbots necessary for Nexus Prime just to screw with people.
Meaning the Energon ones instead of the G1 ones.

Even better!

Same, Id prefer that since I already have a perfectly good UW Superion.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2183988)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 12th, 2024 @ 8:03am CDT

Nemesis Primal wrote:Man, coming back in here I still can't believe how early we got these listings....
So slight update on the next year listings, courtesy of TFW's HyperShauta and temporarily-resurrected JTPrime17:
Note on the waves, there has been an adjustment. Vortex will be taking Swindle’s original place in wave 2 in the updated case assortments it seems (hence the product number reassignment). Swindle will be a later wave figure.

Tra Gen Prime Dlx Vortex
Product Number: G1028
Guess that definitively clears up the "which Swindle is it" speculation while also conveniently strengthening the Nexus Prime theory...

How does it conveniently strengthen that theory?

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2183993)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 12th, 2024 @ 11:51am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Man, coming back in here I still can't believe how early we got these listings....
So slight update on the next year listings, courtesy of TFW's HyperShauta and temporarily-resurrected JTPrime17:
Note on the waves, there has been an adjustment. Vortex will be taking Swindle’s original place in wave 2 in the updated case assortments it seems (hence the product number reassignment). Swindle will be a later wave figure.

Tra Gen Prime Dlx Vortex
Product Number: G1028
Guess that definitively clears up the "which Swindle is it" speculation while also conveniently strengthening the Nexus Prime theory...

How does it conveniently strengthen that theory?

Because the original Nexus Prime was comprised of Combaticon and Aerialbot redecos.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184009)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 12th, 2024 @ 3:34pm CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Man, coming back in here I still can't believe how early we got these listings....
So slight update on the next year listings, courtesy of TFW's HyperShauta and temporarily-resurrected JTPrime17:
Note on the waves, there has been an adjustment. Vortex will be taking Swindle’s original place in wave 2 in the updated case assortments it seems (hence the product number reassignment). Swindle will be a later wave figure.

Tra Gen Prime Dlx Vortex
Product Number: G1028
Guess that definitively clears up the "which Swindle is it" speculation while also conveniently strengthening the Nexus Prime theory...

How does it conveniently strengthen that theory?

It retroactively provides an answer to the first counter-argument/question that was posed when I mentioned the Superion + Bruticus = Nexus theory:

Emerje wrote:Wouldn't it have made more sense to start with Brawl or Vortex since there's no Jeep in Nexus Prime?

Plus the confirmation that it's actual Combaticons/Bruticus at all helps a lot, since starting with just Swindle was basically the only way they could release a Combaticon character without inherently soft-confirming the rest of the team. Adding Vortex to the equation brings the rest of the team with him, thereby promoting the "we'll have everything we need for a new Nexus" assertion from an assumption to a fact.

Or I could just be completely off-base and the team just really wants to make a Gen Selects Alpha Bravo, who knows.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184080)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 13th, 2024 @ 3:18pm CDT

Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184094)
Posted by Emerje on September 13th, 2024 @ 3:47pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

I've updated the topic title. They were really praising the new logo and it's one of the most generic things I've ever seen.

They did confirm this line would have plastic windows so that's nice.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184214)
Posted by RiddlerJ on September 16th, 2024 @ 1:19pm CDT

So I guess we're just not getting a Sureshot....ever

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184220)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 16th, 2024 @ 4:33pm CDT

RiddlerJ wrote:So I guess we're just not getting a Sureshot....ever

I think "Normal" characters will be included and the Primes will be sprinkled throughout, like how we've gotten Beast Wars figures post Kingdom.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184221)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 16th, 2024 @ 5:07pm CDT

RiddlerJ wrote:So I guess we're just not getting a Sureshot....ever

I'm still waiting for polar claw lol

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184233)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 17th, 2024 @ 8:54am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184243)
Posted by Emerje on September 17th, 2024 @ 12:31pm CDT

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

There's some speculation that he's a "preview" of the line like we've seen before with figures like Blaster and Astrotrain during the WFC trilogy. He'll probably turn up in wave 2 or 3.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184244)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 17th, 2024 @ 12:38pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

There's some speculation that he's a "preview" of the line like we've seen before with figures like Blaster and Astrotrain during the WFC trilogy. He'll probably turn up in wave 2 or 3.

Emerje

Or like how Combiner Wars Buzzsaw was a preview figure for Titans Return.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184246)
Posted by Emerje on September 17th, 2024 @ 12:46pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

There's some speculation that he's a "preview" of the line like we've seen before with figures like Blaster and Astrotrain during the WFC trilogy. He'll probably turn up in wave 2 or 3.

Emerje
Or like how Combiner Wars Buzzsaw was a preview figure for Titans Return.

Yes! I knew there was one I was forgetting.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184248)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 17th, 2024 @ 12:54pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

There's some speculation that he's a "preview" of the line like we've seen before with figures like Blaster and Astrotrain during the WFC trilogy. He'll probably turn up in wave 2 or 3.

Emerje

Do y'all think he'll be just repacked? Or any potential differences?

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184249)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 17th, 2024 @ 12:57pm CDT

Razorbeast88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

There's some speculation that he's a "preview" of the line like we've seen before with figures like Blaster and Astrotrain during the WFC trilogy. He'll probably turn up in wave 2 or 3.

Emerje

Do y'all think he'll be just repacked? Or any potential differences?

If he is, it won't be until much later into the line since we already know from leaks what's all in the first three waves of the line, and Vector isn't in included.

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184251)
Posted by Emerje on September 17th, 2024 @ 1:02pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro PulseCon 2024 revealed the official name of this line to be "Transformers: Age of the Primes".

It seems like a strange choice to not save Vector Prime for this line. I'm sure he'll probably get a repackage for it.

There's some speculation that he's a "preview" of the line like we've seen before with figures like Blaster and Astrotrain during the WFC trilogy. He'll probably turn up in wave 2 or 3.

Emerje

Do y'all think he'll be just repacked? Or any potential differences?
If he is, it won't be until much later into the line since we already know from leaks what's all in the first three waves of the line, and Vector isn't in included.

Yeah, I meant year two or three, not wave. And he'll probably just be a package refresh. If anything changes it'll be the shade of red like how they brightened up Metalhawk.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184252)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 17th, 2024 @ 1:02pm CDT

As a reminder:

Main retail line

Wave 1
Deluxe Solus Prime
Deluxe Air Raid
Deluxe Fireflight
Deluxe Animated Wasp
Voyager Prima
Voyager Armada Red Alert
Leader The Fallen
Leader G2 Grimlock

Wave 2
Deluxe Alchemist Prime
Deluxe Crasher PR
Deluxe Vortex
Deluxe Micronus
Voyager Rescue Bots Heatwave
Voyager RID2001 Sky-Byte
Leader Onyx Prime

Wave 3
Deluxe Venom
Deluxe Slingshot
Deluxe Skydive
Voyager Flatline
Voyager Alpha Trion

Exclusives

Amazon: Wreckers VS Mayhem-themed capsule
Spinister VS Topspin
Ironfist VS Carnivac

Walmart: Cybertron-themed capsule
Deluxe Sideways
Deluxe Excellion
Voyager Skywarp
2 Unknown Deluxes
1 Unknown Leader

Hasbro PulseCon
Hearts of Steel-themed exclusive

San Diego Comic Con
Skybound-themed Jetfire with Void Rivals

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184257)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 17th, 2024 @ 1:26pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:As a reminder:

Main retail line

Wave 1
Deluxe Solus Prime
Deluxe Air Raid
Deluxe Fireflight
Deluxe Animated Wasp
Voyager Prima
Voyager Armada Red Alert
Leader The Fallen
Leader G2 Grimlock

Wave 2
Deluxe Alchemist Prime
Deluxe Crasher PR
Deluxe Vortex
Deluxe Micronus
Voyager Rescue Bots Heatwave
Voyager RID2001 Sky-Byte
Leader Onyx Prime

Wave 3
Deluxe Venom
Deluxe Slingshot
Deluxe Skydive
Voyager Flatline
Voyager Alpha Trion

Exclusives

Amazon: Wreckers VS Mayhem-themed capsule
Spinister VS Topspin
Ironfist VS Carnivac

Walmart: Cybertron-themed capsule
Deluxe Sideways
Deluxe Excellion
Voyager Skywarp
2 Unknown Deluxes
1 Unknown Leader

Hasbro PulseCon
Hearts of Steel-themed exclusive

San Diego Comic Con
Skybound-themed Jetfire with Void Rivals

Much appreciated!

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184258)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on September 17th, 2024 @ 1:30pm CDT

I wonder if Heatwave will be a remolded Bulkhead or his own mold

And if the fallen will look like dreamwave version or aligned or some sort of combo

I'm also curious if flatline would be a remold of red alert

And if onyx Prime would be a centaur or not

And im wondering if Alpha Trion would be off of the Scourge mold like before or off of the thundertron mold or something

Ironfist v carnivac will be one of the cases where I actually want both and not just one

And I hope hearts of steel exclusives go on enough to get a Shockwave and maybe the seekers

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184262)
Posted by Emerje on September 17th, 2024 @ 2:24pm CDT

Razorbeast88 wrote:I wonder if Heatwave will be a remolded Bulkhead or his own mold

I think that despite being Rescue Bots he's going to have more in common with his Fun Publications namesake for future use so we can have Nexus Prime later.

And if the fallen will look like dreamwave version or aligned or some sort of combo

They were talking about the Dreamwave version at Pulse Con.

I'm also curious if flatline would be a remold of red alert

Could be, but could also be your Bulkhead repaint/retool if they base him on the Transformers Universe game version, he'd technically still be Prime universe, too.

And if onyx Prime would be a centaur or not

I'm hoping not, but only because I want him to be a pre-tool for Prime Predaking.

And im wondering if Alpha Trion would be off of the Scourge mold like before or off of the thundertron mold or something

It's not a package refresh so it's probably not based on Scourge. Kinda expecting him to be a Thundertron repaint, even if that makes more sense for that mold to be Alpha Trizer.

Emerje

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184263)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 17th, 2024 @ 2:28pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Walmart: Cybertron-themed capsule
Deluxe Sideways
Deluxe Excellion
Voyager Skywarp
2 Unknown Deluxes
1 Unknown Leader

Even though it says Cybertron-themed capsule, I wonder if this will be Armada Sideways.

Excellion and Skywarp are both obvious repaints/remolds, but Cybertron Sideways doesn't have a clear repaint source that I can think of (unless he's based on one of the other toys from this line).

On the other hand, Armada Sideways could be a remold of the Prowl/Chromia mold

Re: Wave Breakdown for the 2025 Thirteen Primes Transformers Generations Line (2184265)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 17th, 2024 @ 2:35pm CDT

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Walmart: Cybertron-themed capsule
Deluxe Sideways
Deluxe Excellion
Voyager Skywarp
2 Unknown Deluxes
1 Unknown Leader

Even though it says Cybertron-themed capsule, I wonder if this will be Armada Sideways.

It's Cybertron Sideways. The original leak was explicit on that.

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