BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview

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The Official BotCon Twitter has posted a preview of the upcoming Tranformers Timelines issue 11. The artist of the comic this year is Matt Frank. Discuss your thoughts on the comic and anything BotCon 2015 related in our BotCon 2015 Discussion Thread. Check out the preview page mirrored below.

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Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635020)
Posted by Madeus Prime on January 1st, 2015 @ 10:50pm CST

I spy two Windblades and Springer/Sandstorm mold, plus the obvious Dragon Zord/RID15 inspired Grimlock.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635024)
Posted by shajaki on January 1st, 2015 @ 11:04pm CST

Madeus Prime wrote:I spy two Windblades and Springer/Sandstorm mold, plus the obvious Dragon Zord/RID15 inspired Grimlock.

does that springer look like it has a trailer? ala cloud rodimus, only a winnebago mode?

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635029)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 12:02am CST

Remember how awesome Scorponok was last year? According to Pete Sinclair, something even more awesome's coming this year.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635030)
Posted by Mindmaster on January 2nd, 2015 @ 12:04am CST

Sabrblade wrote:Remember how awesome Scorponok was last year? According to Pete Sinclair, something even more awesome's coming this year.

Unless we're getting goddamn Metrotitan from you-know-who, part of me doubts it can't get any better than Scorponok.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635031)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 12:08am CST

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Remember how awesome Scorponok was last year? According to Pete Sinclair, something even more awesome's coming this year.

Unless we're getting goddamn Metrotitan from you-know-who, part of me doubts it can't get any better than Scorponok.

Let's wait and see.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635032)
Posted by Seibertron on January 2nd, 2015 @ 12:30am CST

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Remember how awesome Scorponok was last year? According to Pete Sinclair, something even more awesome's coming this year.

Unless we're getting goddamn Metrotitan from you-know-who, part of me doubts it can't get any better than Scorponok.

Scorponok was OK. Looking forward to seeing the reveals as always.

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Posted by Madeus Prime on January 2nd, 2015 @ 1:12am CST

shajaki wrote:
Madeus Prime wrote:I spy two Windblades and Springer/Sandstorm mold, plus the obvious Dragon Zord/RID15 inspired Grimlock.
does that springer look like it has a trailer? ala cloud rodimus, only a winnebago mode?

Actually...you have a point...SG Cloud Universe Rodimus or a Minimus Ambus?

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635045)
Posted by Emerje on January 2nd, 2015 @ 2:40am CST

shajaki wrote:
Madeus Prime wrote:I spy two Windblades and Springer/Sandstorm mold, plus the obvious Dragon Zord/RID15 inspired Grimlock.
does that springer look like it has a trailer? ala cloud rodimus, only a winnebago mode?

Looks like my idea of "the boss" (or Star Lord if we're still doing the GotG thing) as Hot Rod has a chance.

That's less Dragonzord and more Mecha Godzilla for sure, though I wonder if it'll be colored like Gigastorm.

In the second panel I see what looks to be TT Silverbolt, Heinrad and Rhinox the left and Starscream and Stun Gun on the right.

Third panel is hard to make out, but they were nice enough to write "Wolfang" on one. Next to him is probably Primal Prime. The rabbit is most likely Stampy. Don't know about the dog, could be Mini-Con Overbite or even AOE Steeljaw. Looks like RID 2015 Grimlock in there as well.

Panel four is kinda hard to make out aside from the two Windblades, Springer and the dog again.

Emerje

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Posted by Tranzilla on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:27am CST

Madeus Prime wrote:I spy two Windblades and Springer/Sandstorm mold, plus the obvious Dragon Zord/RID15 inspired Grimlock.

Actually, that Godzilla-ish one is an old Grimlock/Godzilla hybrid KO. I remember seeing it back in the 90s at places like KB Toys and Toy Liquidators. I was a fan simply for the Godzilla-esque look.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635071)
Posted by Randomhero on January 2nd, 2015 @ 7:41am CST

Woo matt frank! The story is still going to suck hardcore because no doubt its by pete sinclair and probably ben yee but Matt Frank!

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635074)
Posted by Peridot on January 2nd, 2015 @ 8:13am CST

Is anyone else seeing a tiny Beast Machines Cheetor in the middle of the 3rd panel? I thought it was Overbite at first, but it's a bit too angular and feline.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635083)
Posted by gothsaurus on January 2nd, 2015 @ 9:05am CST

Sorry, Packrat would be AWESOME. I'd jump at that.

I think they've done an excellent job doing a ReDux of the earlier — often dated and extremely pricy — characters. I'm much more apt to dig out the new Shockaract than the delicate chrome version, for example.

Keeping some of these characters in play lets new fans get them for a decent price, plus it's also good for collectors since it doesn't let those old characters fall out of the limelight. Keep the Botcon "brand" and characters strong.

Not to mention it gives us some new story for our old characters. Also a win.

As for mixing universes in the same set, I think that can really hurt the aesthetics. The movie verse and animated have such a different look. I'd rather keep those out of a set, unless it's 100% those molds. (Add ons would be free game, of course. Those are a mixed bag.... literally! Ha ha ha.)

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 11:18am CST

gothsaurus wrote:As for mixing universes in the same set, I think that can really hurt the aesthetics. The movie verse and animated have such a different look. I'd rather keep those out of a set, unless it's 100% those molds. (Add ons would be free game, of course. Those are a mixed bag.... literally! Ha ha ha.)

Well, that's what Axiom Nexus is all about.

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Posted by gothsaurus on January 2nd, 2015 @ 1:34pm CST

Yeah, I get it. This nexus is a hodgepodge... but from an artistic and design standpoint, it makes for a poorly-designed, not-at-all-unified toy set if they mix movie, animated, and more mainstream Generations-style toys.

Case in point... the two recent rescue box sets look okay in vehicle mode, but their robot modes look awful together. That chicken-legged copter is an abomination, IMHO.

Bringing it back to Botcon... that's why I felt the Animated set was such a home run, but Machine Wars was a bit of a mixed bag.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635144)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 2nd, 2015 @ 2:17pm CST

Yeah, if you think about it, the Nexus is really just there to try and justify the club putting whatever they feel like together in a set of exclusives.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 2:27pm CST

But as a result, it means less restrictions for what the Club can do with the toys this year.

All that would matter for them now would be that the toys are fun and look good. And really, at the root of it all, isn't that what's most important?

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 2nd, 2015 @ 2:28pm CST

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Yeah, if you think about it, the Nexus is really just there to try and justify the club putting whatever they feel like together in a set of exclusives.

The Nexus has been around for... 7 to 8 years, and this is the very first time it's used for exclusives (not counting Alpha Trion and Topspin).

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 2nd, 2015 @ 2:30pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Yeah, if you think about it, the Nexus is really just there to try and justify the club putting whatever they feel like together in a set of exclusives.

The Nexus has been around for... 7 to 8 years, and this is the very first time it's used for exclusives (not counting Alpha Trion and Topspin).

Right. I fail to see how this refutes my point?

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:00pm CST

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Yeah, if you think about it, the Nexus is really just there to try and justify the club putting whatever they feel like together in a set of exclusives.

The Nexus has been around for... 7 to 8 years, and this is the very first time it's used for exclusives (not counting Alpha Trion and Topspin).

Right. I fail to see how this refutes my point?

That Axiom Nexus isn't created from a marketing standpoint.

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:02pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Yeah, if you think about it, the Nexus is really just there to try and justify the club putting whatever they feel like together in a set of exclusives.

The Nexus has been around for... 7 to 8 years, and this is the very first time it's used for exclusives (not counting Alpha Trion and Topspin).

Right. I fail to see how this refutes my point?

That Axiom Nexus isn't created from a marketing standpoint.

lol, sure, if you say so.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635156)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:09pm CST

Thinking about possibilities for the set, I got to thinking of which existing characters might be considered outlaws, had fates that wouldn't prevent them from ending up in Axiom Nexus, don't have a toy yet, could fit one of the five descriptions, and could be done by the Club.

Then it hit me. What if one of them turns out to be Animated Thundercracker from the Voyager Starscream mold? We never got one at retail from either Hasbro or Takara, we last saw him tumbling through space never heard from again (so it's not impossible for him to have somehow ended up in Axiom Nexus), he's a Decepticon (many of which are considered outlaws in the Animated universe), and his egomaniac personality could peg him as "The Boss".

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635164)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:33pm CST

Speaking of outlaws, how about G2 Bulletbike? He's in Axiom Nexus already, all he needs is a new body.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635165)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:37pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Speaking of outlaws, how about G2 Bulletbike? He's in Axiom Nexus already, all he needs is a new body.

Hmm, he could fit "The Boss" as well.

Last we saw he was in TransTech Bulletbike's body (which he stole), which was based on the Beast Machines Deluxe Thrust toy (the non-show-accurate one).

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:40pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Speaking of outlaws, how about G2 Bulletbike? He's in Axiom Nexus already, all he needs is a new body.
Hmm, he could fit "The Boss" as well.

Last we saw he was in TransTech Bulletbike's body (which he stole), which was based on the Beast Machines Deluxe Thrust toy (the non-show-accurate one).

I think he's more like the Loose Cannon, but eh. Another solid opportunity either way. :APPLAUSE:

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635167)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 2nd, 2015 @ 3:42pm CST

However, that story he was in was WAY too confusing (and one I didn't really like, either), so I'd be hesitant to see the Club return to him.

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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 3rd, 2015 @ 9:48am CST

Sabrblade wrote:However, that story he was in was WAY too confusing (and one I didn't really like, either), so I'd be hesitant to see the Club return to him.

Still, he'd be a golden opportunity. Beast Machines Thrust (the Deluxe) is the only Beast Machines Vehicon toy that hasn't been repainted, so the mold should be in decent enough shape despite its age. I say they should go for it and worry about plot holes later.

Ok, back to speculating about the 5. Anybody think we'll see any of the cameos from the TFSS 3.0 comics, maybe as Souvenirs? To refresh your memories:

G2 Eagle Eye from Gen. Armada Starscream
Turbofire from Gen. Hoist/Trailcutter
Blue Bacchus from 2010 Tomahawk
Rotorstorm from Gen. Vortex

I'm saving Nightracer out of Gen. Tailgate for the TFSS given her size.

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Posted by shajaki on January 3rd, 2015 @ 11:53am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:G2 Eagle Eye from Gen. Armada Starscream

ever since that comic, and peoples speculations, ive been drooling over the thought of this.

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1635562)
Posted by 8 bit on January 3rd, 2015 @ 10:45pm CST

Hoping I can make it this year. Also hoping for a repaint of RTS Jazz into Cybertron Crosswise as "the bounty hunter".

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 4th, 2015 @ 11:31am CST

8 bit wrote:Hoping I can make it this year. Also hoping for a repaint of RTS Jazz into Cybertron Crosswise as "the bounty hunter".

But Crosswise wasn't a bounty hunter. :???:

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2015 @ 12:49pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
8 bit wrote:Hoping I can make it this year. Also hoping for a repaint of RTS Jazz into Cybertron Crosswise as "the bounty hunter".
But Crosswise wasn't a bounty hunter.

And? Was it specified that a character was required to be previously what he will be in the set?

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 4th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
8 bit wrote:Hoping I can make it this year. Also hoping for a repaint of RTS Jazz into Cybertron Crosswise as "the bounty hunter".
But Crosswise wasn't a bounty hunter.
And? Was it specified that a character was required to be previously what he will be in the set?

*shrug* I guess then it wouldn't be Cybertron Crosswise.

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Posted by 8 bit on January 4th, 2015 @ 9:08pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
8 bit wrote:Hoping I can make it this year. Also hoping for a repaint of RTS Jazz into Cybertron Crosswise as "the bounty hunter".
But Crosswise wasn't a bounty hunter.

Oops! You're right. All of my TF cards/bios/instructions are in a shoe box, and I haven't read them in a while. It looks he's a "monster hunter"; and all this time I thought I had read bounty hunter lol!

Re: BotCon 2015 Transformers Timelines Issue 11 Preview (1637719)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 10th, 2015 @ 2:13pm CST

Ok, have there been any strong characters that turned into aircraft, aside from Lugnut? I'm asking because I'm reminded of 2010 Lugnut's alternate head that's never been used. Now would be a good time...

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 10th, 2015 @ 2:36pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, have there been any strong characters that turned into aircraft, aside from Lugnut? I'm asking because I'm reminded of 2010 Lugnut's alternate head that's never been used. Now would be a good time...

I feel that mold would be an opportune use for a brand new character, if ever anyone wanted to make one.

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 11th, 2015 @ 10:00am CST

Sabrblade wrote:I feel that mold would be an opportune use for a brand new character, if ever anyone wanted to make one.

I always thought that mold fit the Shockwave character better. One eye, huge chest, blasters in the hands. If it was all purple, it would have made a good Shockwave in Animated. The 1 we did get wasn't bad, though.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:35pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I feel that mold would be an opportune use for a brand new character, if ever anyone wanted to make one.
I always thought that mold fit the Shockwave character better. One eye, huge chest, blasters in the hands. If it was all purple, it would have made a good Shockwave in Animated. The 1 we did get wasn't bad, though.

Yeah, but I think JelZe and I were talking about that figure using its alternate head, rather than its Lugnut head.

Though, the Lugnut head has five eyes.

And the United version was very purple (purple head, even), so that one could possibly serve as a Shockwave repurpose as is.

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:52pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I feel that mold would be an opportune use for a brand new character, if ever anyone wanted to make one.
I always thought that mold fit the Shockwave character better. One eye, huge chest, blasters in the hands. If it was all purple, it would have made a good Shockwave in Animated. The 1 we did get wasn't bad, though.
Yeah, but I think JelZe and I were talking about that figure using its alternate head, rather than its Lugnut head.

Though, the Lugnut head has five eyes.

And the United version was very purple (purple head, even), so that one could possibly serve as a Shockwave repurpose as is.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:55pm CST

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I feel that mold would be an opportune use for a brand new character, if ever anyone wanted to make one.
I always thought that mold fit the Shockwave character better. One eye, huge chest, blasters in the hands. If it was all purple, it would have made a good Shockwave in Animated. The 1 we did get wasn't bad, though.
Yeah, but I think JelZe and I were talking about that figure using its alternate head, rather than its Lugnut head.

Though, the Lugnut head has five eyes.

And the United version was very purple (purple head, even), so that one could possibly serve as a Shockwave repurpose as is.

Didn't know that head had three eyes. Yikes! :shock:

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:38pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I feel that mold would be an opportune use for a brand new character, if ever anyone wanted to make one.
I always thought that mold fit the Shockwave character better. One eye, huge chest, blasters in the hands. If it was all purple, it would have made a good Shockwave in Animated. The 1 we did get wasn't bad, though.
Yeah, but I think JelZe and I were talking about that figure using its alternate head, rather than its Lugnut head.

Though, the Lugnut head has five eyes.

And the United version was very purple (purple head, even), so that one could possibly serve as a Shockwave repurpose as is.

Didn't know that head had three eyes. Yikes!

Are we even sure those are eyes? It could be a really really fucked up clown face.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2015 @ 11:37pm CST

We just might have an early leak of some BotCon 2015 toys.

This comes from TFW2005 user Grimlockimus:

Okay so recently on the Cybercast Podcast they had a special guest that some of us may know, Pete@Botcon. During the podcast, which was really nice to watch, loved hearing about Pete's views and experiences with the convention, Pete adjusted the camera due to some toys being shown in the shot that apparently weren't suppose to be seen and well, as he said in the podcast himself it'll probably show up on TFW shortly after.

Can't get much out of the shot but one thing definately stands out and that's a Voyager Prime Breakdown with what seems to be a new head and a green paintjob. Might be our first look at a voyager from the Botcon set (the muscle?) or maybe an upcoming TFCC club store exclusive.

The podcast episode in question is this one:

Another user, Monzo, did some enhancement to the look at the toys:

All this, combined with observations made by others, the following have been spotted on that table near Pete:

A military green or tan or gray or gold Prime Breakdown with a new headsculpt
A blue and gray Generations Springer
A Packrat-colored Generations Rattrap
A blue and white Generations Bumblebee
A red or pink Reveal the Shield Jazz with gold rims

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 24th, 2015 @ 11:51pm CST

Oh Oh Can the RTS Jazz please be Vibes? Though I mean with the way they treated women in the last club story, I might regret asking that.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 25th, 2015 @ 7:12am CST

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh Oh Can the RTS Jazz please be Vibes? Though I mean with the way they treated women in the last club story, I might regret asking that.

You sound like the Club personally requested that Flamewar and Flareup be drawn the way they were, rather than that being all Sakamoto-san's doing.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 25th, 2015 @ 7:57am CST

Second enhancement by Monzo:

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Posted by shajaki on January 25th, 2015 @ 11:33am CST

i find it odd that theyd do packrat without fractyl.
2015 bring us a terrorsaur, and botcon 2016 bring us a fractyl!

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 25th, 2015 @ 2:03pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh Oh Can the RTS Jazz please be Vibes? Though I mean with the way they treated women in the last club story, I might regret asking that.
You sound like the Club personally requested that Flamewar and Flareup be drawn the way they were, rather than that being all Sakamoto-san's doing.

Yes because the club has absolutely no control on what the artist focuses on in the comic, and the club was on sick leave when they wrote flareup was a ditz and other characters, cough cannonball ball focus on flamewars tits. Look I don't care about objectification, but at least do it well enough so the characterization is more than happy and ass, cunning and boobs.

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Posted by Sabrblade on January 25th, 2015 @ 7:02pm CST

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh Oh Can the RTS Jazz please be Vibes? Though I mean with the way they treated women in the last club story, I might regret asking that.
You sound like the Club personally requested that Flamewar and Flareup be drawn the way they were, rather than that being all Sakamoto-san's doing.

Yes because the club has absolutely no control on what the artist focuses on in the comic, and the club was on sick leave when they wrote flareup was a ditz and other characters, cough cannonball ball focus on flamewars tits. Look I don't care about objectification, but at least do it well enough so the characterization is more than happy and ass, cunning and boobs.

Again, that was Sakamoto's doing, not the writers.

Sakamoto was even asked by one of his colleagues to tone down what he had originally done with Flamewar, whom he drew with the idea of her being like a James Bond girl type. Not everyone in the Club was thrilled with it either, but it's not like it was out of character for Flamewar.

And, in what universe is Flareup a "ditz"? She's happy-go-lucky and fun-loving, but a far cry from an idiot.

Honestly, you act like what amounted to three panels of (unnecessary) fanservice was spread across the entire comic on every page as though this were an issue of Kiss Players. We get it, you hate Club fiction. But it's not so heinous as to be considered pornographic.

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 25th, 2015 @ 7:28pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh Oh Can the RTS Jazz please be Vibes? Though I mean with the way they treated women in the last club story, I might regret asking that.
You sound like the Club personally requested that Flamewar and Flareup be drawn the way they were, rather than that being all Sakamoto-san's doing.

Yes because the club has absolutely no control on what the artist focuses on in the comic, and the club was on sick leave when they wrote flareup was a ditz and other characters, cough cannonball ball focus on flamewars tits. Look I don't care about objectification, but at least do it well enough so the characterization is more than happy and ass, cunning and boobs.
Again, that was Sakamoto's doing, not the writers.

Sakamoto was even asked by one of his colleagues to tone down what he had originally done with Flamewar, whom he drew with the idea of her being like a James Bond girl type. Not everyone in the Club was thrilled with it either, but it's not like it was out of character for Flamewar.

And, in what universe is Flareup a "ditz"? She's happy-go-lucky and fun-loving, but a far cry from an idiot.

Honestly, you act like what amounted to three panels of (unnecessary) fanservice was spread across the entire comic on every page as though this were an issue of Kiss Players. We get it, you hate Club fiction. But it's not so heinous as to be considered pornographic.

It's heinous because it takes away from character development and good story telling! I already stated that I don't mind objectification, hell I respect kiss players because it's balls to the wall objectification, but that was in character for kiss play. As much as I bash the club, I always expect better from them. If they went full James Bond/Tearjerker/Our Man Bashir, I would've respected it because the T&A would've been appropriate for the tone of story, it wasn't for this story. Also if the club felt it was to much, why did they approve of it? The other problem is the fact Josh Burcham wrote the characters this way, no mater what Hayato Sakamoto drew, it was a visual interpretation of Burcham's written work. If burcham wrote that cannonball made an off comment about flamewars breasts, then Sakamoto interpreted it visually, not the other way around; I take more issue with an inept writer, than an artist who likes drawing T&A.

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Posted by Counterpunch on January 26th, 2015 @ 2:41pm CST

Flareup is the best.

What the hell is going on here?

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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 26th, 2015 @ 4:09pm CST

Counterpunch wrote:Flareup is the best.

What the hell is going on here?

Hi, my names Michael, and I think the club screwed up the characterization in the botcon 2014 comic, specifically for the female characters, by objectifying them in a way that didn't develop their characters or, was appropriate for the tone of story being told. Some think the fault lies on the artist for drawing them that way, I think it's the fault of a writer writing it that way. Also flare up was better developed in her other club stories, than in hoist the flag.

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Posted by Counterpunch on January 26th, 2015 @ 4:18pm CST

SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:Flareup is the best.

What the hell is going on here?

Hi, my names Michael, and I think the club screwed up the characterization in the botcon 2014 comic, specifically for the female characters, by objectifying them in a way that didn't develop their characters or, was appropriate for the tone of story being told. Some think the fault lies on the artist for drawing them that way, I think it's the fault of a writer writing it that way. Also flare up was better developed in her other club stories, than in hoist the flag.

I'm not arguing that the fiction and art was...awkward. Especially for Flamewar...

But I can't get over the fact that Flamewar is well...the best. >:oP